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Old 13th March 2009, 02:45   #31
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Chill guys - It is a newspaper article that is being discussed and that was not written by a Bhpian. So why get all defensive and demand that this thread be taken off etc? Gays are there in every country, it is obvious that Saudi will have its share of them. Why get all prudish at the mention of gays? Whether gays drift better than straight guys is what we need to discuss
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Er...the supposed link that all the good drifters are gay?
Or perhaps more importantly, the suggestion that lots of jihadi terrorists have a drifting background?
Those 2 associations were in absolute bad taste. whats the article about; bored saudis racing or arabs are gays and terrorists; and racing is a camouflage?

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Those 2 associations were in absolute bad taste. whats the article about; bored saudis racing or arabs are gays and terrorists; and racing is a camouflage?
Seems to be more of the latter.
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Can't understand why people are so much sensitive?Yes there can be various reasons for showing your concern if anybudy writes over something happening to our people here or "there" but when it is about "others"why so much concern boss?
Generally your petriotism tells you to raise your voice for those who are your countrymen and this is natural.Why so much halla gulla for "others"???
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Can't understand why people are so much sensitive?Yes there can be various reasons for showing your concern if anybudy writes over something happening to our people here or "there" but when it is about "others"why so much concern boss?
Generally your petriotism tells you to raise your voice for those who are your countrymen and this is natural.Why so much halla gulla for "others"???
It's called humanity.
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Old 13th March 2009, 09:28   #36
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Oic,thanks for drawing my kind attention.
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Can't understand why people are so much sensitive?Yes there can be various reasons for showing your concern if anybudy writes over something happening to our people here or "there" but when it is about "others"why so much concern boss?
Generally your petriotism tells you to raise your voice for those who are your countrymen and this is natural.Why so much halla gulla for "others"???
This wasn't what we were taught, growing up, right?

I wouldn't want to sound judgemental but if i was just concerned about something that happened to 'our' people then that wouldn't be patriotism, I would just be a selfish individual who feels that everything's alright as long as it's not happening to me. And then why later expect someone to be concerned for 'our' welfare.

No one here is forced to stand up for someone else, we should accept that people can be genuinely concerned (even if I'm not). Patriotism isn't a word to be thrown around lightly.
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Can't understand why people are so much sensitive?Yes there can be various reasons for showing your concern if anybudy writes over something happening to our people here or "there" but when it is about "others"why so much concern boss?
Generally your petriotism tells you to raise your voice for those who are your countrymen and this is natural.Why so much halla gulla for "others"???
I believe this poem best describes why
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When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
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chill guys and ask yourself how "others"take care of ourselves and talk of humanity etc!!
Think twice before you jump,think and think harder.
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I wouldn't want to sound judgemental but if i was just concerned about something that happened to 'our' people then that wouldn't be patriotism
I am talking of local petriotism and not international type,my vision is a narrowed type.
Forget local or international buddy,ask yourself how much "others" care for India nowadays and in the past and if they care thats due to their own interest.Our mentality is such that we think twice fearing what others may think about me if I do this,get out of this mania.
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chill guys and ask yourself how "others"take care of ourselves and talk of humanity etc!!
Think twice before you jump,think and think harder.

I am talking of local petriotism and not international type,my vision is a narrowed type.
Forget local or international buddy,ask yourself how much "others" care for India nowadays and in the past and if they care thats due to their own interest.Our mentality is such that we think twice fearing what others may think about me if I do this,get out of this mania.
There is nothing wrong with standing up against something that you feel is wrong. As greenhorn's poem below will tell you, when you help others in their time of need, they will help you in your time of need.

And in case you forgot, let me remind you of how many nations sent relief aid during the Tsunami aftermath. Again, it's called humanity.

Btw greenhorn, great poem.
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Yup, it is a great poem. Find out more about it here
First they came... - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia...
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My countrymen in south India
are pained of the atrocities
committed to their ilk
in an Island country.
They protested, and are protesting, and how!

That does not make them lesser
patriotic to their parent country
now, does it?
Try convincing them to 'chill'.

The situation here is analogous.

For some the topic means:
Just an article.
Fair enough, everyone
has a right to an opinion and it is an
honest and innocent one, no doubt.

For me:
It is an attempt to convince the readers of the newspaper
of how horrible their belief is.
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A misguided journo generalizing in this case something as trivial as about saudi boy racers, incidentally you will find thousands of articles doing exactly this sort of sensationalizing in just today's news simply because this is how the media is, is hardly a humanity issue, on the other hand the ill treatment of immigrant workers especially from our subcontinent in places like Saudi Arabia is definitely a humanity issue. For god's sake when it comes to humanity and suffering we have plenty of stuff to think about in India itself. This thread is way out of perspective.

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Old 13th March 2009, 14:46   #44
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This is what is called West's fascinations for the East.
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"It ranges from garden variety drag racing to “drifting,” a dangerous practice in which drivers spin out and skid sideways at high speeds, sometimes killing themselves and spectators."
Lets see East's fascination for the West:
"It happens suddenly - someone in the crowd pulls out an automatic and starts firing, sometimes indiscriminately, instantly killing hordes of women and children, along with men. Later he will turn the gun on to himself"
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Lets see East's fascination for the West:
"It happens suddenly - someone in the crowd pulls out an automatic and starts firing, sometimes indiscriminately, instantly killing hordes of women and children, along with men. Later he will turn the gun on to himself"
This is exactly what I commented on! I mean the article written was as if everything in the journo's country is hale and hearty.
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