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Old 17th June 2010, 13:53   #61
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I don't think this will come to India any time soon as the present Jetta haven't had even a decent run ( time-span wise) in the market else the present owners might feel short changed.
If the new gen Jetta costs less to build, is more fuel efficient, and has more space, in which way are owners going to be shortchanged? With this logic, we should all wait till everyone in the country has bought one, so that we can all start from the same point!

It's been almost 24 months since the Jetta was launched ( July 2008). What decent time-span is required?
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I don't think this will come to India any time soon as the present Jetta haven't had even a decent run ( time-span wise) in the market else the present owners might feel short changed.
Well at the same time, lots of potential buyers will not buy the old one in anticipation of the new one !
I feel VW will wait for the New Civic, Corolla Diesel before they launch this one. Having said that, they have been pretty pro-active with the Polo and the Vento (due here in a couple of months), we may be surprised.
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If the new gen Jetta costs less to build, is more fuel efficient, and has more space, in which way are owners going to be shortchanged? With this logic, we should all wait till everyone in the country has bought one, so that we can all start from the same point!

It's been almost 24 months since the Jetta was launched ( July 2008). What decent time-span is required?
Since VW owns part of Maruti, they will probably learn some nice tricks from them like selling 5 generations of Jetta simultaneously, or bringing the current new Jetta to India after it has been phased out abroad and the used dies can be salvaged cheaply.

Hope they act like a true global company like Toyota (Qualis>Innova) and Honda (OHC>NHC>ANHC) and replace models in a timely fashion

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From Autocarindia.com

"Here are the first images of the all new Volkswagen Jetta saloon. VW has re-engineered its Jetta saloon and the new model takes a gigantic leap forward – conceptually and in the style department.

The new car model has undergone considerable amount of changes and according to VW, it now warrants status as a standalone model like the VW Tiguan. The saloon’s styling is based on the lines of the NCC coupe concept car that was shown at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit.Still based on the Golf platform, the Jetta sits on a wheelbase stretched by 70mm and is clothed in crisp new sheetmetal inspired by the NCC concept revealed in January. At 4644mm, the new Jetta is 90mm longer than before. The extended wheelbase will result in added comfort and improved overall legroom, helping the Jetta take on the fight with its competitors, the Skoda Laura and the Chevrolet Cruze.At the time of the unveiling the company has shared that ‘the new Jetta will no longer share any body components with the Golf and it will be a vehicle type that is just as independent as a CC or Tiguan.

See official images of the new Jetta


In Europe, the new Jetta will be launched with a wide range of engine options. However, in India, the saloon is more likely to be offered with a 1.4 TSI petrol and 1.6 TDI diesel engine options. The new longer and wider Jetta is has VW’s ‘design DNA’ helping it sharpen the car’s styling. At the front, the prominence of horizontal lines defines the design. The black radiator grille combines with the car’s trapezoidal headlights to form a styling unit. It also gets an added cooling air intake and a tray-shaped front spoiler that gives the car a sporty finish.rom the sides, you can notice that the styling characteristics that mark all new VWs launched in the past one year gets moulded into yet another interpretation of the ‘design DNA’. Compared to the outgoing model, the new Jetta has also grown in clarity and pre-eminence in its side profile.
At the rear, harmonized surfaces and sporty shoulders dominate the look. The visually distinctive taillights are split into two sections, each side extending from the fender into the tailgate.

The interior has its own high-quality identity, but distinct from that of Golf’s. The rounded instruments are ideally arranged and the Jetta gets new steering wheel design with optional multi-functional keys on offer. The rear seats split 40/60 and folds, increasing the car’s versatility.

VW plans to launch the new Jetta in India by March 2011."

For me the big attraction is the 1.4 TFSI engine. Its great machine and will give sleepless nights to Honda and Toyota, makers of Civic and Corolla Altis.

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It costs just Rs 8 lakhs in USA. Should come soon. Looks like a bigger Polo from the front and an Audi A4 from the rear.
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It looks like a Bigger Polo from the front, though a better overall design. The Jetta has been the most over-rated & over-priced car in India; whereas it is just an economic car back in US... The current Jetta engine performance (both petrol & Diesel) is the worst in its category in Indian market, and in sheer engine performance it falls behind cars half its price (viz. SX4, Fiesta, Verna). And VW was never a real 'premium' car brand (it's the original people's car), but just that it owns many premium brands now. They could grow to become the largest car manufacturer, not by selling their so called "premium" badge, but the sheer quality they brought into economy cars. However, in India, they are trying to misguide the Indian consumers into believing that they are a "Premium" car, and worse, they sell their cars at 50-75% more the price for lesser features/toned down engines in India, compared to their same models in the West.
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It looks like a Bigger Polo from the front, though a better overall design. The Jetta has been the most over-rated & over-priced car in India; whereas it is just an economic car back in US... The current Jetta engine performance (both petrol & Diesel) is the worst in its category in Indian market, and in sheer engine performance it falls behind cars half its price (viz. SX4, Fiesta, Verna). And VW was never a real 'premium' car brand (it's the original people's car), but just that it owns many premium brands now. They could grow to become the largest car manufacturer, not by selling their so called "premium" badge, but the sheer quality they brought into economy cars. However, in India, they are trying to misguide the Indian consumers into believing that they are a "Premium" car, and worse, they sell their cars at 50-75% more the price for lesser features/toned down engines in India, compared to their same models in the West.
With you James on this. I don't recall Jetta being considered anything worthwhile in the US. Passat got some market respect but Jettas where looked down as problematic cars. But this impression is old. I don't know if it has changed now.

Nonetheless, new Jetta looks awesome with Audi influence showing.
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With you James on this. I don't recall Jetta being considered anything worthwhile in the US. Passat got some market respect but Jettas where looked down as problematic cars. But this impression is old. I don't know if it has changed now.

Nonetheless, new Jetta looks awesome with Audi influence showing.
Yup +1 to that, it looks pretty good but similar to Polo. I too fail to understand the low price of the same car in US and more in India
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Yup +1 to that, it looks pretty good but similar to Polo. I too fail to understand the low price of the same car in US and more in India
Front is uninspiring. Side and back looks good.

The price difference between India and US is not brand specific but across the board. Blame it on taxes. Merc C class starts in US at around $32k! Here in dollar terms it is over $50k. One can buy 400 bhp machines in US and for the same amount may not be able to get even half the horses in India.
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I came across this review of the US-spec VW Jetta where quality problems are discussed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/26/au...agewanted=2&hp

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While VWs are typically seen as more distinctive than Toyotas or Hondas, questions remain about the brandís reliability. In a 2010 study of how three-year-old vehicles held up, VW ranked near the bottom over all, according to J. D. Power. But Consumer Reports magazine says the 2008 Jetta with the 2.5-liter engine had better-than-average reliability; the 2009 Jetta was rated average.
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The switches in the 2011 Jetta felt flimsy; part of an air-conditioning vent fell off.
Gives me a deja-vu all over again. Based on my experience with our Skoda Octavia, I feel that Skodas are built to feel like tanks, they are not actually built like tanks at all. So the parts are all heavy and thick, but they are heavily prone to fail (we have replaced god knows how many major+minor parts in our family car over the last few years). I know Skoda's *** issues are well publicised here, but I wonder if my opinion on the cars themselves would be agreed by people.

Anyhow, JD Power is a fairly reliable source, so if they say VW cars are not reliable then I personally think its just the Skoda story redux.
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So the parts are all heavy and thick, but they are heavily prone to fail (we have replaced god knows how many major+minor parts in our family car over the last few years).
My experience with Mercedes has not been any different. You will find this thread (Your definition of Build Quality) interesting. The Polo's recently reported problems have me very concerned.
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The current Jetta engine performance (both petrol & Diesel) is the worst in its category in Indian market, and in sheer engine performance it falls behind cars half its price (viz. SX4, Fiesta, Verna).
>>> JJames,

Would you like to substantiate your point with comparative examples. perhaps?

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The EU version has broken cover. As expected, it is higher up in terms of spec compared to the de-contented USA version.
This sounds more like it.
The only fly in the ointment is the fact that the availability of two variants ( and one continued to being made in Mexico for international markets) probably leaves VW with a very good reason to bring the US version to India.

Details at the link here:
VW Jetta European spec introduced

The clocks are definitely more in keeping with the current version, and the absence of the peculiar (law mandated) orange turn indicators do a lot to prevent this looking like an 80's throwback.

Praying that we get EU spec here!
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God ! It looks so much like the Vento ! Maybe we can call it grown up Vento !
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God ! It looks so much like the Vento ! Maybe we can call it grown up Vento !

Absolutely. While I love the looks of the Polo / Vento, taking this styling to the Jetta and Passat will make the entire VW family look, well, like a family. Boring in that case.
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