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aniguchisan · 25th September 2006, 15:23

Could be easy, could be hard, ID 144:

V-16 · 25th September 2006, 16:45

ID 144 :::can we have a larger pic please? cant see it too well as all these american muscle cars had similar lines.... need to see detail if possible

V-16 · 25th September 2006, 16:48

ID i44 looks like a ford or dodge

V-16 · 25th September 2006, 17:28

rear quarter glass reminds me of the mercury cyclone tough....or a pontiac tempest...Plymouth..gawd u got me buddy im confused tough i think its a plymouth

aniguchisan · 25th September 2006, 20:54

Here's a larger pic of the same car (ID144):

aniguchisan · 25th September 2006, 20:58

ID 145, not too hard if you like innovative products:

ranjan united · 25th September 2006, 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by aniguchisan

Could be easy, could be hard, ID 144:

I cant believe it. Is it the 1966 Oldsmobile 442 ???

sajo · 25th September 2006, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranjan united

I cant believe it. Is it the 1966 Oldsmobile 442 ???

Think you are right. It could be the Cutlass 4-4-2. I got confused because I had seen pictures of 442s with a flat rear quarter glass panel, not the curved one in this pic.

aniguchisan · 25th September 2006, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranjan united

I cant believe it. Is it the 1966 Oldsmobile 442 ???

Very close/close enough, I shall disclose it...it's an Oldsmobile Jetstar 88, circa 1965.

aniguchisan · 25th September 2006, 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by aniguchisan

ID 145, not too hard if you like innovative products:

Don't know why it's not showing up properly...

Let's try this one for ID 145 again:

Ram · 26th September 2006, 07:42

Oi sacré bleu!
Not another scale model?

ID 145: is a 1/43rd scale model of a 1981 Talbot-Matra Murena 4S.

The Murena was a sleek aerodynamic mid-engined hatchback. Its Cd (drag coefficient) was 0.328 -- sensational for 1980. Its directional stability and wind-noise silence at high speed was legendary and highly effective on twisty roads.

It was a three seater, with all three seats in one row. The middle seat could fold down to become a huge armrest.

The rear hatch allowed access to the engine between the luggage space and the passenger compartment.

The Murena's body was made by bolting no more than twelve polyester-fibre-glass panels onto a galvanized steel spaceframe (25 kg. of Zn was used per car!).

Matra covered it with a six-year anti-corrosion warranty!
We know that Audis are made with galvanized steel, but the Matra Murena blazed the trail first.

The suspension had longitudinal torsion bars in front (like in our Hindustan Ambassador) and Macpherson struts at the rear. Brakes were discs all around.
This French car could reportedly thrash a Porsche in high-speed cornering!

The engine was a 2156 cc 4-cyl. 16v ("4S" stands for quatre soupapes, four valves) OHC engine -- an oversquare-design where the bore was larger than the stroke. The engine put out 180 BHP and oodles of torque. It could do 224 km/h. Near Lotus Esprit performance at half the price!

Matra made the Murena from 1979-1983.
I was doing a software project for Credit Lyonnais Bank Nederland and knowing my car-craze, my colleagues presented me with 1/43rd scale models of the Talbot Matra Murena by a French company Paradcar (the same as in the pic ID:145 in post#597 by aniguchisan) , and the Alfa-Romeo Carabo Bertone by another French scale model co., Verem -- both cars paradigms of aerodynamics.

Ram

Ram · 26th September 2006, 08:32

ID:146
What is this black four-door sedan?

Ram

karlosdeville · 26th September 2006, 12:17

ID 146...Ford Prefect 49-51...very popular in india at one point...

ghostrider4385 · 26th September 2006, 12:39

Haha! How can one forget the ford prefect! Which if i'm not wrong, was one of the only ford cars to not have been sold in England!

And of course, any Douglas Adams fan would know this car. His most famous book series (made into movies, stageshows, etc.) called the Hitchhiker's Guide series had the main character named after this car!

Godspeed,

Alok

Ram · 26th September 2006, 13:45

These charming sidevalvers were built by Ford of England at Dagenham, Essex. I have actually seen them at Warrington, Cheshire. So Alok, of course they were sold in the UK. One even featured in "The 1940s house" TV series about life in post-war Britain.

These cars have come to be known as the "Upright Fords" due to their rather tall and narrow, or upright look.

It was powered by a 4 cylinder 1172 cc side valve engine that developed 30 bhp. The rather small differential with a final drive ratio of about 5.5:1 delivered 10 hp to the road wheels which were shod with 5.00x16 tires.

If you got stuck going up the old Khandala ghat, it would not pull away from a standstill and you would have to reverse back to the bottom of the current slope and start again. All hills had to be attacked flat out. 1st and 2nd gears had no-synchromesh, so gear changes called for double declutch and jam, at peak revs to make progress.

The engine had no water pump, but relied on a thermo-siphon cooling system (the expansion of the coolant itself would force coolant to circulate through the system).

It was common to see a steamy Ford Prefect after a hard drive pull into a petrol bunk, cool off for 30 minutes and have its radiator refilled.

The engine had poured-babbitt main and rod bearings. It also lacked an oil filter.
At sustained high speed 70 km/h crankcase compression would build up and squeeze the oil into the clutch.

The car could be coaxed to 100 km/h for a brief while but would quickly overheat and mess itself up with oil. Oil-messy engines were very common back then.

Like the Ford Model T, the car had a solid beam front axle and transverse semi-elliptic leaf springs front and rear. It had Armstrong lever-type shock absorbers. These cars had Girling mechanical (non-hydraulic) brakes using rods and levers. Barely adequate when all was in perfect order, it was a challenge to stop your Ford Prefect unless you had a particularly heavy foot.

The dashboard was of imitation wood (made of Bakelite. No plastics back then) and PVC seats (too cheap for today). The car had 6 volt electrics.

Its wipers operated off engine vacuum, which meant the wipers would slow down while going uphill.

Ford Prefect was also a platform for Bombay taxis which can be seen in Hindi movies of the 1950s.

Ram

25th September 2006, 15:23	#571 (permalink)
aniguchisan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,371 View My Garage	Could be easy, could be hard, ID 144: __________________ Only the good die young, all the evil seem to live forever...

25th September 2006, 20:54	#575 (permalink)
aniguchisan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,371 View My Garage	Here's a larger pic of the same car (ID144): __________________ Only the good die young, all the evil seem to live forever...

25th September 2006, 20:58	#576 (permalink)
aniguchisan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,371 View My Garage	ID 145, not too hard if you like innovative products: __________________ Only the good die young, all the evil seem to live forever... Last edited by aniguchisan : 25th September 2006 at 20:59.

26th September 2006, 12:17	#583 (permalink)
karlosdeville Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 3,313 View My Garage	ID 146...Ford Prefect 49-51...very popular in india at one point... __________________ ( O \ \| / O )

26th September 2006, 12:39	#584 (permalink)
ghostrider4385 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 363	Haha! How can one forget the ford prefect! Which if i'm not wrong, was one of the only ford cars to not have been sold in England! And of course, any Douglas Adams fan would know this car. His most famous book series (made into movies, stageshows, etc.) called the Hitchhiker's Guide series had the main character named after this car! Godspeed, Alok __________________ *Ancient Chaineese Saying: Yooo keeso mai arseo!*

25th September 2006, 16:45	#572 (permalink)
V-16 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 2,596 View My Garage	ID 144 :::can we have a larger pic please? cant see it too well as all these american muscle cars had similar lines.... need to see detail if possible

25th September 2006, 16:48	#573 (permalink)
V-16 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 2,596 View My Garage	ID i44 looks like a ford or dodge

25th September 2006, 17:28	#574 (permalink)
V-16 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 2,596 View My Garage	rear quarter glass reminds me of the mercury cyclone tough....or a pontiac tempest...Plymouth..gawd u got me buddy im confused tough i think its a plymouth

26th September 2006, 07:42	#581 (permalink)
Ram Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai, Pune, München Posts: 1,568 View My Garage	Oi sacré bleu! Not another scale model? ID 145: is a 1/43rd scale model of a 1981 Talbot-Matra Murena 4S. The Murena was a sleek aerodynamic mid-engined hatchback. Its Cd (drag coefficient) was 0.328 -- sensational for 1980. Its directional stability and wind-noise silence at high speed was legendary and highly effective on twisty roads. It was a three seater, with all three seats in one row. The middle seat could fold down to become a huge armrest. The rear hatch allowed access to the engine between the luggage space and the passenger compartment. The Murena's body was made by bolting no more than twelve polyester-fibre-glass panels onto a galvanized steel spaceframe (25 kg. of Zn was used per car!). Matra covered it with a six-year anti-corrosion warranty! We know that Audis are made with galvanized steel, but the Matra Murena blazed the trail first. The suspension had longitudinal torsion bars in front (like in our Hindustan Ambassador) and Macpherson struts at the rear. Brakes were discs all around. This French car could reportedly thrash a Porsche in high-speed cornering! The engine was a 2156 cc 4-cyl. 16v ("4S" stands for quatre soupapes, four valves) OHC engine -- an oversquare-design where the bore was larger than the stroke. The engine put out 180 BHP and oodles of torque. It could do 224 km/h. Near Lotus Esprit performance at half the price! Matra made the Murena from 1979-1983. I was doing a software project for Credit Lyonnais Bank Nederland and knowing my car-craze, my colleagues presented me with 1/43rd scale models of the Talbot Matra Murena by a French company Paradcar (the same as in the pic ID:145 in post#597 by aniguchisan) , and the Alfa-Romeo Carabo Bertone by another French scale model co., Verem -- both cars paradigms of aerodynamics. Ram

26th September 2006, 08:32	#582 (permalink)
Ram Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai, Pune, München Posts: 1,568 View My Garage	ID:146 What is this black four-door sedan? Ram

26th September 2006, 13:45	#585 (permalink)
Ram Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai, Pune, München Posts: 1,568 View My Garage	These charming sidevalvers were built by Ford of England at Dagenham, Essex. I have actually seen them at Warrington, Cheshire. So Alok, of course they were sold in the UK. One even featured in "The 1940s house" TV series about life in post-war Britain. These cars have come to be known as the "Upright Fords" due to their rather tall and narrow, or upright look. It was powered by a 4 cylinder 1172 cc side valve engine that developed 30 bhp. The rather small differential with a final drive ratio of about 5.5:1 delivered 10 hp to the road wheels which were shod with 5.00x16 tires. If you got stuck going up the old Khandala ghat, it would not pull away from a standstill and you would have to reverse back to the bottom of the current slope and start again. All hills had to be attacked flat out. 1st and 2nd gears had no-synchromesh, so gear changes called for double declutch and jam, at peak revs to make progress. The engine had no water pump, but relied on a thermo-siphon cooling system (the expansion of the coolant itself would force coolant to circulate through the system). It was common to see a steamy Ford Prefect after a hard drive pull into a petrol bunk, cool off for 30 minutes and have its radiator refilled. The engine had poured-babbitt main and rod bearings. It also lacked an oil filter. At sustained high speed 70 km/h crankcase compression would build up and squeeze the oil into the clutch. The car could be coaxed to 100 km/h for a brief while but would quickly overheat and mess itself up with oil. Oil-messy engines were very common back then. Like the Ford Model T, the car had a solid beam front axle and transverse semi-elliptic leaf springs front and rear. It had Armstrong lever-type shock absorbers. These cars had Girling mechanical (non-hydraulic) brakes using rods and levers. Barely adequate when all was in perfect order, it was a challenge to stop your Ford Prefect unless you had a particularly heavy foot. The dashboard was of imitation wood (made of Bakelite. No plastics back then) and PVC seats (too cheap for today). The car had 6 volt electrics. Its wipers operated off engine vacuum, which meant the wipers would slow down while going uphill. Ford Prefect was also a platform for Bombay taxis which can be seen in Hindi movies of the 1950s. Ram

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