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Old 21st September 2007, 17:15   #1501
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ID 350 is Iran Khodro's Peykan (arrow in persian...am I right Payam?)

Based on a Hillman Hunter, it is to Iran what Maruti has been to us.
you are always right buddy.
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ID 349 is a 54 Swallow Doretti. Coachbuilt on Standard mechanicals.
thats the right answer karl
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ID 350 is Iran Khodro's Peykan (arrow in persian...am I right Payam?)

Based on a Hillman Hunter, it is to Iran what Maruti has been to us.
Correction

Based on a Hillman Hunter, it is to Iran what the Ambassador has been to us
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ID 351: Berkeley B95? Powered by an Enfield Twin engine.
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Old 21st September 2007, 18:59   #1505
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awini thats the right answer

ID: 348
@ Speedy & G.S. Kripya already posted cars dobara post na karein. Shukria.
Sorry guys couldn't resist this. Not serious on this one but both the cars ( the Jowett and the 1800) have been posted earlier.
Speedy, both Google Uncle and Yahoo Aunty (that was priceless G.S.) have given us no info and so haven't you. cough up the link of the info.

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Old 21st September 2007, 19:33   #1506
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@ Speedy & G.S. Kripya already posted cars dobara post na karein. Shukria.
sorry Gogi didn't know that it has already been posted.
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Old 21st September 2007, 20:04   #1507
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ID:352 (hope it has not been posted before).

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ID:352 (hope it has not been posted before).

No G.S. ID:352, the 1953-54 Alvis T/C 21 has not been posted before.

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No G.S. ID:352,the 1953-54 Alvis T/C 21 has not been posted before.
Sahi Jawab!!

Its 1954 TC 21/100 Graber DHC.
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Sahi Jawab!!

Its 1954 TC 21/100 Graber DHC.
Inspite of maintaining its British RHD and ample leather and wood trimmings, It was built in Switzerland by the Swiss coach builder Hermann Graber who was the official importer of Alvis in the early 50s. But from 1958 Alvis bodies were built by Park Ward (alongside Graber specials) who also built bodies for Rolls and Bentley.
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Inspite of maintaining its British RHD and ample leather and wood trimmings, It was built in Switzerland by the Swiss coach builder Hermann Graber who was the official importer of Alvis in the early 50s. But from 1958 Alvis bodies were built by Park Ward (alongside Graber specials) who also built bodies for Rolls and Bentley.
This is what I read on the Alvis Owner Club Website.

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The Alvis car division was consistently losing money and had become more or less a public relations exercise and the TC 21/100 was looking very dated. Further investment in car production looked unlikely given the success of the other divisions. No-one would have believed that the Three Litre would simply refuse to die, and that it had over ten years of production and development life left in it yet. It was Hermann Graber who came to the rescue. He had been building small numbers of very elegant bodies on Three Litre chassis since the early 1950s, for sale to his Swiss customers at high prices. These cars were more or less "one-offs", and were light, strong and modern looking. Alvis hoped that they would be able to have bodies built in series to Graber's design in the UK substantially cheaper than the Swiss articles. Accordingly two cars were sent to Switzerland for prototype bodies to be built, then returned to the UK, complete with the necessary jigs and patterns for series production.

A few cars were made, but whilst they were much admired and discussed, they were simply too expensive. The situation was only retrieved by going to Rolls-Royce subsidiary Mulliner Park Ward to redesign the body to enable its production, suitably modified for the British market, at a lower price. This was achieved in no uncertain manner and the cars sold well. Alvis' independence came to an end in 1965 when the company was taken over by Rover, and in turn became part of the British Leyland empire a couple of years later. By now most of the company's production was their highly successful ranges of armoured vehicles. The car division carried on until 1967, along with the Aero Engine department, which had gradually lost ground as more and more aircraft became powered by gas turbine engines.
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ID 351: Berkeley B95? Powered by an Enfield Twin engine.
You're close @islero! ID:351 is a 1960 Berkeley B105.

The B95 had a 692 cc Royal Enfield Super Meteor four-stroke twin engine that put out 41 bhp @ 5500 rpm; 58 Newton-m torque @4000 rpm and pushed it to 95 mph (152 km/h).

The B105 was powered by a 692 cc Royal Enfield Constellation four-stroke Twin engine breathing through twin-carburetors. It put out 50 bhp @ 6250 rpm; 61 Newton-m torque @4000 rpm and could top out at 105 mph (168 km/h).

If you think that Alec Issigonis' Austin Mini was first to have a transverse engine and front wheel drive, think again.
Besides this engine and drive combo, the Berkeley had a complete compact fibreglass monocoque (or glass-reinforced plastic (GRP) as the English put it). The hull was reinforced locally by lightweight aluminium sections.

Like a motorcycle it had a chain drive to the rear wheels. If the chain stretched, you had it. It would also chew up the differential box.

It had independent suspension on all four wheels, low CG, superb handling and braking.

Unlike most other microcars, a Berkeley was both cute and quick in acceleration !

A total of 200 Berkeley B95 + B105 cars were made.

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@ Speedy & G.S. Kripya already posted cars dobara post na karein. Shukria.
Sorry guys couldn't resist this. Not serious on this one but both the cars ( the Jowett and the 1800) have been posted earlier.
Speedy, both Google Uncle and Yahoo Aunty (that was priceless G.S.) have given us no info and so haven't you. cough up the link of the info.
sorry bhai did not know it has been posted before.
this is the milano car. this is what aunty uncle missed

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Old 21st September 2007, 22:18   #1514
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You're close @islero! ID:351 is a 1960 Berkeley B105.
Hi Ram,

How do you distinguish between a B95 and B105? Apart from the engine/twin carb, is there any other way to find out the difference? Externally both seem to be alike.
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Inspite of maintaining its British RHD and ample leather and wood trimmings, It was built in Switzerland by the Swiss coach builder Hermann Graber who was the official importer of Alvis in the early 50s. But from 1958 Alvis bodies were built by Park Ward (alongside Graber specials) who also built bodies for Rolls and Bentley.
in the early nineties, i saw an amazing car with a graber body, in geneva,... only that the chassis was a late thirties dodge!!! how a good body can spark up a boring chassis.
learnt that day ,that the body is equally, and sometimes more important than the marque of the chassis its based on.
by the way, iv seen some really boring bodies on the likes of rolls ,daimler etc.
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