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Old 26th May 2010, 23:24   #3886
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A 1949 Bristol 401
Absolutely correct! And that was fast!
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Old 26th May 2010, 23:35   #3887
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ID 815 Guess the car....

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Its a 1951 Bristol 401, not 1949

Googled and saw that this car was on auction on ebay. This is my first attempt in this thread, forgive me for any mistakes.

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Old 28th May 2010, 07:01   #3888
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Old 28th May 2010, 11:22   #3889
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i 816 is a Simca 1000, french car company later taken over by Chrysler. Not many of these left
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ID:816 Guess the car.

Not to be picky, but I think it is a 1963 Simca 1000 GLS

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Default ID:816 Simca Mille

1963 Simca Mille (Simca 1000) is right.
It was a tail-heavy with a rear-engine rear-wheel-drive configuration.
This would give it oversteer as the heavy tail attempted to overtake the car on turns.
The GLS model debuted in 1965. This is a plain 1963 Simca Mille.
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ID:817 is a Rural 750 Ramirez designed and sold in Mexico by Trailers De Monterrey SA in the early 1960’s. It was equipped with a 4 or 6-cylinder gasoline engine but a 4-cylinder diesel was available as an option. The 750 designation might be a reference to the truck’s capacity in kg.
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Bang on as expected from Double Mac....
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Old 29th May 2010, 19:23   #3895
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Default The fancy taillights of ID:818

I stumbled upon ID:818 while trying to nail one of CCC's obscurities posted elsewhere and pursuing what turned out to be a wrong direction. Can you explain those eye-catching taillights?

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I stumbled upon ID:818 while trying to nail one of CCC's obscurities posted elsewhere and pursuing what turned out to be a wrong direction. Can you explain those eye-catching taillights?

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Looks like a 140Z based on an old Datsun B210
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Looks like a 140Z based on an old Datsun B210
You're very close. However... I'm less interested in the identification of the pictured variant (I know it can be a pain with all those editions on offer and it took me a while to figure this one out myself so I'll get to that later) and more concerned with the general question: what determined the use of those triple round taillights? (They were available both in Japan and - as is the case with the 140Z you mentioned and the 160Z you didn't - in South Africa.)
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You're very close. However... I'm less interested in the identification of the pictured variant (I know it can be a pain with all those editions on offer and it took me a while to figure this one out myself so I'll get to that later) and more concerned with the general question: what determined the use of those triple round taillights? (They were available both in Japan and - as is the case with the 140Z you mentioned and the 160Z you didn't - in South Africa.)
The car in question is Datsun 140Y GX Coupe, available in South Africa from 1975-80.The South African 140Y,different from the international 140Y(B210),was actually a re badged PB210 Sunny Excellent(next generation B210).This particular GX version came with a twin-carb version of the L14 OHC engine(L14T),while the international 140Y's had to do with the A14 push-rod mills(they were a generation old B210s,see!).

EDIT:Regarding the use of the triple round lights,Double Mac,please do the honors! I'm guessing that they draw inspiration from their stablemate Skyline,since the the 1970s C110 and GC110 Skyline models were sold as Datsun Ks(140K,160K and 240K) outside of Japan.The B210 Excellent 1600 Coupe,140Z(KP210) and the 160Z also came with these tail-lamps!

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The car in question is Datsun 140Y GX Coupe, available in South Africa from 1975-80.The South African 140Y,different from the international 140Y(B210),was actually a re badged PB210 Sunny Excellent(next generation B210).This particular GX version came with a twin-carb version of the L14 OHC engine(L14T),while the international 140Y's had to do with the A14 push-rod mills(they were a generation old B210s,see!).
Excellent in-depth answer – I think you nailed the model. (Of course, CCC still deserves credit for seeing through my mischief and identifying the car as some incarnation of the B210.) The reason I’m a little hesitant here is that the standard badge in front of the rear fender seems to be missing on this particular unit so (unless you’re 100% sure, of course) I would assume that it might as well be the 160Y GX (equipped with the L16 engine and otherwise virtually indistinguishable from the 140Y). The script on the ribbed chrome strip under the right set of taillights (edited out by yours truly) simply says ‘Datsun GX’ which would indicate that it’s one of those rebadged South African PB210 variants rather than either of the ‘proper’ local equivalents (script: ‘140Z / 160Z’) or a Japanese ‘original’ (script: ‘Excellent GX’).

One thing I found a little controversial about your answer is the ‘next generation’ remark. For all I know, the upscale PB210 range of Sunny models was a contemporary of the standard B210 family???

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Regarding the use of the triple round lights,Double Mac,please do the honors! I'm guessing that they draw inspiration from their stablemate Skyline,since the the 1970s C110 and GC110 Skyline models were sold as Datsun Ks(140K,160K and 240K) outside of Japan.The B210 Excellent 1600 Coupe,140Z(KP210) and the 160Z also came with these tail-lamps!
Dunno about the inspiration behind those taillights but… you almost answered the question yourself: PB210 coupés (once again, equipped with either L14 or L16 overhead cam engines as opposed to the standard A-series pushrod option for the regular B210) had them. To make matters more complicated, PB210 4-door sedans had unique (and pretty cool, too) taillights as well.

On top of that, the Sunny Excellent 1600 you mentioned was a mere trim level option for the B210 between 1976-77, and I’ve seen it classified as a ‘GB210’ (rather than a ‘PB210’).

So… to sum up & organize things a little bit. Those special taillights graced the following variants of the B210 coupé:

1. Sunny Excellent 1400 / 1600 (Japan only);
2. 140Y / 160Y (basically the above rebadged for the South African market);
3. 140Z / 160Z (South Africa’s own take on the PB210).

Oh yeah… most importantly perhaps, I’m only being such a smart alec about it because I was fortunate enough to discover this neat little page which sheds a great deal of light on the subject.
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Just when you think you've heard and seen it all , Big Mac surprises.
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