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Old 4th October 2006, 21:13   #691
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Try this one..
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Your ID:175 is not a mass-production car, so does not rigorously qualify for our thread.

But for the sake of closure, it's a specially built wedding car in 1930s style by a firm called Beauford, UK, using modern day mechanicals.



Painted white with contrasting black mudguards and running boards it has luxury burgundy leather upholstery. It has a mohair convertible top, so can be heated and used in the snow season too. Besides driver, it can carry 3 passengers.

Said to be modeled in the spirit of the American Duesenberg Model J, as seen in the movie, "The Great Gatsby", I can hardly see the similarity, can you?

The original 1930 Duesenberg J, boasted a whopping 265 horsepower DOHC straight-8 engine in normally aspirated form. It could do 192 km/h, and 151 km/h in 2nd gear!!!

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ID 176: Lot of History in this car!!
ID:176 is a 1967 BMW/Glas 3000 V8 coupe



The story:

Hans Glas's car manufacturing facility at Dingolfing in Bavaria was taken over in January 1967 by the cash rich BMW.

Five months later the first Glas model appeared under the watchful eye of BMW engineers. The new product of the Munich factory was called: BMW/Glas 3000.

A 3-litre V8 engine was derived from the existing Glas 2.6-litre V8.
The engine was squared off to a 78 mm bore x 78 mm stroke, yielding a 2982 cc OHC V8. With three double-draught Solex carbs, the engine developed 160 BHP @ 5100 rpm and 235 Newton metre torque @ 3900 rpm. It could do 200 km/h.
It could accelerate 0 to 100 km/h in 9 seconds and up to a max. 195 km/h in 37 seconds. Fuel economy was 6.25 km/litre.



The fairly heavy 1.35 ton car was just as manoevrable as an economy car.

The car had independent front suspension and de Dion rear axle with leaf springs/Panhard rod in the back.


BMW (GLAS) 3000 V8 Coupé, 4 Sitze, Achtzylinder-Viertaktmotor mit Wasserkühlung, 90` V-Form, 2982 ccm, 160 PS, 3 (davon 2 in Registeranordnung) Fallstrom-Doppelvergaser Solex 3DDIS, Vierganggetriebe, Einscheibentrockenkupplung, Hinterradantrieb, Selbsttragende Ganzstahlkarosserie, Einzelradaufhängung vorne und DeDion-Achse mit Blattfedern/Panhardstab hinten (Niveauausgleich mit Boge-Hydromat-Federbeine), Scheibenbremsen vorne und hinten (innen am Differential), 12V-Anlage, Länge: 4600mm, Breite: 1750mm, Höhe: 1380mm, Radstand: 2500mm, Spurweite: 1432mm vorne + 1412 hinten, Bereifung 185 H 14 (oder 185 HR 14), Leergewicht: 1350kg, zul. Gesamtgewicht 1800kg, Höchstgeschwindigkeit: 195km/h, Verbrauch: 16 Liter/100km, Tankinhalt 80 Liter

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BMW (GLAS) 3000 V8 Coupé, 4 seats, Eight cylinder-Four stroke engine with Watercooling, 90-degree V-Form, 2982 cc, 160 bhp, 3 (of which 2 in serial order) double down draught Solex 3DDIS, Four speed Gearbox, Dry Disk clutch, Rear wheel drive, Monocoque carosserie, Independent suspension in front and DeDion-Axle with Leaf Springs/Panhard rod in rear (Leveling with Boge-Hydromat-shock struts), Disk brakes front and rear (inboard at the Differential), 12V-battery, Length: 4600mm, Breadth: 1750mm, Height: 1380mm, Wheelbase: 2500mm, Trackwidth: 1432mm front + 1412 rear, Tires 185 H 14 (or 185 HR 14), Empty weight: 1350kg, permitted Total weight 1800kg, Max. speed: 195km/h, Consumption: 16 Liter/100km, Tankcapacity 80 Litres

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ID:176 is a 1967 BMW/Glas 3000 V8 coupe



The story:

Hans Glas's car manufacturing facility at Dingolfing in Bavaria was taken over in January 1967 by the cash rich BMW.

Five months later the first Glas model appeared under the watchful eye of BMW engineers. The new product of the Munich factory was called: BMW/Glas 3000.

A 3-litre V8 engine was derived from the existing Glas 2.6-litre V8.
The engine was squared off to a 78 mm bore x 78 mm stroke, yielding a 2982 cc OHC V8. With three double-draught Solex carbs, the engine developed 160 BHP @ 5100 rpm and 235 Newton metre torque @ 3900 rpm. It could do 200 km/h.
It could accelerate 0 to 100 km/h in 9 seconds and up to a max. 195 km/h in 37 seconds. Fuel economy was 6.25 km/litre.



The fairly heavy 1.35 ton car was just as manoevrable as an economy car.

The car had independent front suspension and de Dion rear axle with leaf springs/Panhard rod in the back.


BMW (GLAS) 3000 V8 Coupé, 4 Sitze, Achtzylinder-Viertaktmotor mit Wasserkühlung, 90` V-Form, 2982 ccm, 160 PS, 3 (davon 2 in Registeranordnung) Fallstrom-Doppelvergaser Solex 3DDIS, Vierganggetriebe, Einscheibentrockenkupplung, Hinterradantrieb, Selbsttragende Ganzstahlkarosserie, Einzelradaufhängung vorne und DeDion-Achse mit Blattfedern/Panhardstab hinten (Niveauausgleich mit Boge-Hydromat-Federbeine), Scheibenbremsen vorne und hinten (innen am Differential), 12V-Anlage, Länge: 4600mm, Breite: 1750mm, Höhe: 1380mm, Radstand: 2500mm, Spurweite: 1432mm vorne + 1412 hinten, Bereifung 185 H 14 (oder 185 HR 14), Leergewicht: 1350kg, zul. Gesamtgewicht 1800kg, Höchstgeschwindigkeit: 195km/h, Verbrauch: 16 Liter/100km, Tankinhalt 80 Liter

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BMW (GLAS) 3000 V8 Coupé, 4 seats, Eight cylinder-Four stroke engine with Watercooling, 90-degree V-Form, 2982 cc, 160 bhp, 3 (of which 2 in serial order) double down draught Solex 3DDIS, Four speed Gearbox, Dry Disk clutch, Rear wheel drive, Monocoque carosserie, Independent suspension in front and DeDion-Axle with Leaf Springs/Panhard rod in rear (Leveling with Boge-Hydromat-shock struts), Disk brakes front and rear (inboard at the Differential), 12V-battery, Length: 4600mm, Breadth: 1750mm, Height: 1380mm, Wheelbase: 2500mm, Trackwidth: 1432mm front + 1412 rear, Tires 185 H 14 (or 185 HR 14), Empty weight: 1350kg, permitted Total weight 1800kg, Max. speed: 195km/h, Consumption: 16 Liter/100km, Tankcapacity 80 Litres

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It is indeed the Glas. The car in the pic has BMW wheel caps so it is the glas 3000.It was prior to the BMW take over a 2600 unit. Ill add a little to your well detailed information, viz,

The Glas 2600 V-8



1966-1968-V8-motor with its 2,600 cc (160 cubic inch) displacement and 140 HP, which catapulted the car to a top speed of 120 MPH
Of the 371 V-8s made 71 were supplied as BMW 3000 with a 3 litre BMW engine which produced 10 hp more than its stock 2600 cc. this number is debatable as different authorities have different views on the number of cars built. Some say nearly 741 were built.
An exclusive 4 to 5-passenger sport coupe, reaching for customers who were looking for a sporty automobile with a lot of curb appeal. With this car, which was geared up in a few short years for production, Glas wanted to penetrate the exclusive circle of super cars. The body, again designed by the Italian Pietro Frua, certainly made this car very attractive. Its similarity to Maserati earned the Glas V8 the nickname "Glaserati".
The heart of the vehicle was the V8-motor with its 2,600 cc. Development costs of the engine could be kept low, because utilizing the GLAS parts bin principle, many proven parts from the 1300 cc motor could be used. The chassis had a wheelbase of 2.50 meter and a track of 1.42 meter. The front axle used double wishbones. Of special interest was the rear axle design. Here one could find a DeDion axle with a Panhard stabilizer link and an automatic ride height adjustment using Boge-Hydromat struts. The layout of the interior was also beautiful. The dashboard with the seven round-faced instruments reminded one of a clock makers shop. Interior furnishings and presentation was exclusive and sporty at the same time. On the outside, stretched design features, a low belt line, large glass areas and the discreet use of chrome provided the car with the flair of distinction.
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try this - you might be surprised
ID :180 is the 1967 NSU Ro80.



Front engined 5 seater saloon
1990 cc Two Rotor Wankel
113.5 bhp @5500rpm.
In 67 this car wonthe Car of the Decade
Technical pre-eminence aside, it handled like a cart but the new Wankel power unit was flawed and due to acute rotor tip wear would expire after 24-32,000 km. This was largely due due untrained mechanics of service agencies but NSU honoured their warranty claims until they bled white and eventuallu Audi/VW took over axing the NSU in 1977

A Word About The Wankel Engine

In the Wankel engine, the four strokes of a typical Otto cycle engine are arranged sequentially around an oval, unlike the reciprocating motion of a piston engine. In the basic single rotor Wankel engine, a single oval (technically an epitrochoid) housing surrounds a three-sided rotor (similar to a Reuleaux triangle, but with the middle of each side a bit more flattened) which turns and moves within the housing. The sides of the rotor seal against the sides of the housing, and the corners of the rotor seal against the inner periphery of the housing, dividing it into three combustion chambers.
As the rotor turns, its motion and the shape of the housing cause each side of the rotor to get closer and farther from the wall of the housing, compressing and expanding the combustion chamber similarly to the "strokes" in a reciprocating engine. However, whereas a normal four stroke cycle engine produces one combustion stroke per cylinder for every two revolutions (that is, one half power stroke per revolution per cylinder) each combustion chamber of each rotor in the Wankel generates one combustion 'stroke' per revolution (that is, three power strokes per rotor revolution). Since the Wankel output shaft is geared to spin at three times the rotor speed, this becomes one combustion 'stroke' per output shaft revolution per rotor, twice as many as the four-stroke piston engine, and similar to the output of a two stroke cycle engine. Thus, power output of a Wankel engine is generally higher than that of a four-stroke piston engine of similar engine displacement in a similar state of tune, and higher than that of a four-stroke piston engine of similar physical dimensions and weight. This design also allows the Wankel engine to have a much higher redline as there is less friction working against the internals of the engine

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ID :180 is the 1967 NSU Ro80.
Wrong but you were darned close, it is the VW K70. This was Volkswagen's first water cooled front engined car. It was developed from the NSU RO80 and uses the same bodyshell. The Ro80 had drained NSU of some much cash that a piston alternative was developed as the NSU K70.

Things were so bad that VW who waanted a front engine car, took over before the launch and slapped a few VW badges and launched it. It was a very competent if bland looking car. VW never pushed it hard as there was a clash with the Vw411/ 412.

VW then used Audi resources which provided the platforms for the audi 80, Passat and the Golf....rest is history.

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ID :180 is the 1967 NSU Ro80.
As the 1970-1975 K70 whether by NSU or Volkswagen, never had the rotary engine, Ro 80 is entirely inapplicable.
K stood for Kolben (meaning Piston in German) and 70 came from its 70 bhp.

The K70 (The Germans pronounce it as Ka Siebsig : Kay Seventy) was produced from 1969-1974.

VW's first monocoque 4-door fully automatic sedan launched in 1968 -- the Type 4 had been pathetically unsuccessful. They desperately sought a new 4-door family sedan to replace it. The "4" in Type 4 stood for 4-doors. German consumers jeered the long-nosed VW 411 as "Vier Türen elf Jahre zu spät": four doors eleven years too late!

When VW acquired NSU in 1969, NSU had been just about to launch the K70. VW integrated the new acquisition with Auto-Union (Audi) they had bought five years ago in 1964.

The 1969-1974 K70 had front wheel drive and contemporary square styling. VW rebadged the NSU as a Volkswagen. But shrewd German consumers would not be taken in. They remembered the reliability problems of NSU's Ro80 and sales were poor.

The K70 corroded like crazy, so there are very few survivors today.

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heres a shot i took of my dad with a k70 in germany...as rare as hens teeth, even at the worlds largest vw show! (where shot was taken)

plus heres the nsu i shot at VWs autostadt facility the next day...







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As the 1970-1975 K70 whether by NSU or Volkswagen, ................................
The K70 corroded like crazy, so there are very few survivors today.

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Time to put on the Moderators hat here

All this is quoted word for word from Wikipedia. Please provide the link to ensure credit is given and link provided. Team-bhp will get exposed to copyright liability.

Thanks though for keeping this thread alive!!!


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The NSU Ro80 used to make me drool and it still does today
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cant believe i didnt see the pic properly. There re so many tell tale signs diffrenciating the two........stupid me guess thats what hapens always in a hurry. Sorry guys
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What is this unusually shaped car?
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