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Old 18th June 2007, 13:08   #1036
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a Hanomag precursor to the Matador ??
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Old 18th June 2007, 16:04   #1037
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ID-261 :Looks very British to me. I would say an Austin K8 of the late forties and early fifties.
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ID:261 is a 1952 DKW Schnellaster F89L.

It was Auto-union's first Post World War II model. Auto-union later became Audi. Thence the four-ring logo.

The DKW Schnellaster was also the first model produced in Ingolstadt, on the banks of the Danube in central Bavaria.

It had a two-cylinder two-stroke engine that drove the front wheels.
The chassis was made of square-section tubing.

The Schnellaster's front suspension had wishbones sprung by a high-mounted inverted transverse leaf spring.
Its rear suspension used trailing Pitman arms with a transverse torsion bar element.



The first model was the 1949-1952 Schnellaster F89L with a 688 cc that developed 20 bhp @ 3600 rpm and drove a three-speed gearbox.

Note the 4-ring Audi logo on the block.


Note the unusual side mounted fan, radiator at the rear of the engine compartment and fuel tank within the engine compartment.


Like the eyes of a crab, the Schnellaster's headlamps were mounted on stalks. The bonnet had external lenses, through which the headlamps shone. The one-piece windshield was swept by a single wiper.

The low slung chassis and compact rear axle made possible many different versions: minibus, panel delivery van, "Kombi" combination passenger delivery van, flatbed, low loader flatbed, pickup and cab+chassis for special superstructures.

The Kombi, I found in Pune last week combines the cargo capacity of a delivery van with folding seats for 5-7 people + driver. It's in very rough condition. The front doors were hinged at the rear (suicide doors).



The load space of the delivery van accommodated 5 cu.m. of cargo (2230 x 1390 x 1575 mm) with an external length of 4177 mm and width of 1670 mm.



The next model, made 1952 to 1954, had a 22 bhp motor driving a 4-speed gearbox.
Then came the type 30, built from 1954 to 1955, with a 792 cc 30 bhp motor. Schnellaster fans call this engine, the "Büffel".

From 1955 to 1962 the engine was a 32 BHP 896 cc unit.
This engine was called a 3=6. It had three power strokes per crankshaft revolution, like a six-cylinder four-stroke engine.
Auto-union advertising said,
"drei Kraftimpulse pro Kurbelwellen-Umdrehung, genau wie beim Sechszylinder-Viertakter."

There was even an exotic DKW Elektrowagen which used a 4 kW electric motor to attain 40 km/h feeding off 80 Volt, 210 Ampere-hour batteries. Power stations were installed on the road for over the counter exchange of batteries as well as on Germany's East-Frisian islands, which banned vehicles with internal combustion engines.

DKW literature spelled the name both as "Schnellaster" and as "Schnell-Laster".

Here is a blue bus (MPV) owned today by a collector who transports it to auto exhibitions on a trailer.


And here is a flatbed truck.



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Wow thats a really rare find Ram. And its just rotting, what a shame.
Ive noticed that DKW had this two cyl, two stroke motor running in many of their vehicles.
I had a friend in Bombay whose grandfather owned a DKW jeep which looked like a VW tempo. It looked the same from the front and the rear as if two jeeps were sawed in half and their fronts were welded on. It had, two twin, two stroke engines on either end. Never saw anything like that ever. Tried to coax him to sell but it rotted and rotted in their factory garage for years till it became utter junk. Then it disappeared. Heard rumours that it was shipped to a collector abroad. This was way back in the early 80s

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Thats undoubtedly a brilliant find sir! I seriously thought that the Audi logo was a tacky add-on, like the ones on Rickshaws and some private buses.
Where exactly in Erandwane did you find this rare automobile?

EDIT : Was it in the lane leading to the other bridge from the PSPL building? Because in that lane was a garage where I would drool over E28 BMWs and W116/W126 Mercs on my way back from Junior College.

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o forgot about auto union complety forgot that they also had the same symbol.
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o forgot about auto union complety forgot that they also had the same symbol.
Auto Union was really the union of four East German brands:
  1. Audi and
  2. Horch from Zwickau
  3. Wanderer from Chemnitz (Siegmar suburb) and
  4. DKW from Zschopau.
Zwickau, Chemnitz and Zschopau are all cities in the East German state of Saxony (Sachsen).

These four manufacturers merged in 1932 to form Auto-Union.

That is the reason why four interlinked rings were adopted as its marque emblem.

After WW2, the USSR army that was occupying Saxony(Sachsen), grabbed Auto Union AG's production plant and dismantled it.

The top management fled to Ingolstadt, Bavaria in West Germany and registered a new co. in 1949 called Auto Union GmbH.
They kept the sign of the four rings.

The Schnellaster Van is the first product of Auto Union GmbH. It used the
2 cyl. 2-stroke engine of the little 1939 DKW F8 front-wheel-drive car.

In 1969 Auto Union GmbH merged-in NSU also, forming Audi NSU Auto Union AG.
In 1985 this company was renamed AUDI AG with HQ in Ingolstadt.
Needless to say, the four rings remain their emblem.

OT: A symbol of the town twinning between the Indian city of Pune and the Hanseat German city of Bremen are two rings.
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id:262


i give you a hint:
supposed to be the first affordable mid engined sports car for the masses.
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id 262

Fiat X1/9 - I loved it but they rust
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ID 262 - Fiat X1/9. (Produced from '72 to '89)
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seems to be some problem with my earlier post the picture got deleted mods kindly delete the earlier post.
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ID 263 : Chevrolet Citation made between 1979 -84/85. This was GM's, Chevy's first attempt of the Front wheel drive compact car . The engines were either a four or six cylinder rather than the standard american V-8.
It was rejected by the buyers at once and sales dipped causing the discontinuation of this car.

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Here are pictures of the same car in India



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ID:264
What's this cute leafy olive-green
two-door pillarless coupe from the sixties?

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