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Old 29th April 2013, 22:05   #2536
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Meghan, Quick question. Did you have a chance to TD Scion TC. One of my friends is looking to finalize on one of these - Scion TC, Focus ST, BRZ and MazdaSpeed 3.

He liked ST, the most. But doesnt have the dough to extend till ST.

So would Scion TC, strike a balance between Performance and Cost?

I am trying to get him to buy the ST, but he doesnt want (rather doesnt have ) to spend 8K over TC for the ST.
One friend has a TC. I've driven it quite a bit. It is a I4 camry engine in a funny body. As expected with Toyota.... reliable, but nothing extra. Performance is like a I4 Camry.The rear seats are quite roomy, but getting there is a pain.

With the new TC out, I would expect good deals on the existing model of TC.

Of the above.. BRZ will be my pick, but he would need snow tires- if in Louisville.

Mustangs are cheaper. Is your friend interested in those??

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Mustangs are cheaper. Is your friend interested in those??
Geomy,he doesnt like the mustang (feels its not safe and worried about RWD). I have tried knocking some sense, but he just doesnt seem to get it.

Looks like it will be a toss up between Civic Si vs Scion TC, neither of which I approve or like.
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Didn't know Costco sells cars too. Bought my tires from them & it was pretty straight forward & I got free lifetime Nitrogen fill & Maintenance.
Yep they do, the Costco in LA also sell Kawasaki motorcycles for upto $2000 rebate. Haven't really asked the details, but they have a ZX6r parked at the shop
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but they have a ZX6r parked at the shop
Its high time you picked up a bike .
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Geomy,he doesnt like the mustang (feels its not safe and worried about RWD). I have tried knocking some sense, but he just doesnt seem to get it.

Looks like it will be a toss up between Civic Si vs Scion TC, neither of which I approve or like.
Si is not all that bad! Its a 2.4 now with a super manual trans with LSD. Agreed it doesn't make as much power as the ST but hey it costs a whole lot less.
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Here's the link to the Costco Auto service
http://www.costcoauto.com/aboutus.aspx

Here are some reviews. I just glanced through them and most of them look good.
http://www.mymoneyblog.com/costco-au...periences.html
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Si is not all that bad!.
Agreed, Its a very good car in its own way, It shouldnt have ideally been compared with ST. I drive an ST regularly, and when i drove the Si, i was very disappointed. I liked the slick gear shifts and thats about it.
But yes, it costs much less and thats one of the reason my friend is deciding between TC and Si.

Now here is the tricky part, He managed to find a deal - 2012 TC @ 18790 OTD. This is a very good deal and its 2100 under MSRP.

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With the new TC out, I would expect good deals on the existing model of TC.
Geomy - would TC be a good deal at the price that I mentioned?

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Now here is the tricky part, He managed to find a deal - 2012 TC @ 18790 OTD. This is a very good deal and its 2100 under MSRP.
How many miles on it? What is the date of manufacture? We are half way through 2013 and soon in july 2014 will be coming on the lots so technically, you are getting a year old new '(un)used' car. Check if it is on the lot all this time. Check for nature's adverse effects on it since it may have spend considerable time on the lot.
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Now here is the tricky part, He managed to find a deal - 2012 TC @ 18790 OTD. This is a very good deal and its 2100 under MSRP.
MSRP is the Maximum "Suggested" Retail Price. No one buys a car at MSRP (except some exotic rare productions). Ask your friend to ask the dealer what is the "invoice price" If the dealer is willing to settle for something less than the invoice price, then it is a steal, although invoice prices are also inflated.
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How many miles on it? What is the date of manufacture?
10 miles! and Date of Manufacture is Dec 2012. Condition seems to be spanking without any scratches, Etc. I will get more details, will be going to check out the car now.

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MSRP is the Maximum "Suggested" Retail Price. No one buys a car at MSRP (except some exotic rare productions)..
Got that, Scion TC has a dealer concept called "Pay what you see", and this dealer is the only one who seems to be below the MSRP and Invoice price . The final Invoice price is around 2.5 less
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Now here is the tricky part, He managed to find a deal - 2012 TC @ 18790 OTD. This is a very good deal and its 2100 under MSRP.



Geomy - would TC be a good deal at the price that I mentioned?
True car says average prices In Indianapolis for 2012 (base manual) - $19,303 , with tax 19846 (7% IN tax).

I would think it is a good deal if first owner and 0 miles.
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Yep they do, the Costco in LA also sell Kawasaki motorcycles for upto $2000 rebate. Haven't really asked the details, but they have a ZX6r parked at the shop
Now that you mention it, I did see a quad bike as well as a small Kawasaki bike in the Costco over here but that's it no cars. May be they are rolling it out in phase wise manner.
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True car says average prices In Indianapolis for 2012 (base manual) - $19,303 , with tax 19846 (7% IN tax).

I would think it is a good deal if first owner and 0 miles.
Went and checked out the car yday, I didnt like the drive much, as you had said was very insipid. I was amazed at the rear leg room, Didnt think it would be this good.

He was smitten, he finalized the deal at 18400 and we drove the car back yday itself, traded in his Accord (2000 model, 222K miles for $3K),

Scion has free first 2 year services.

The only plus point I liked was the price,I would rate the Civic Si higher than TC. But at this price TC made a compelling buy (atleast in his opinion )

This is a classic case of people asking for your advice and then going and buying something polar opposite to what you have advised..

Thanks Meghan, Chev,Jomz, KW, Mohit,amitoj, for the suggestions. Much appreciated.

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He was smitten, he finalized the deal at 18400 and we drove the car back yday itself, traded in his Accord (2000 model, 222K miles for $3K),
That trade in price is close to private party sales for an Accord. Nice trade in.
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That trade in price is close to private party sales for an Accord. Nice trade in.
Oh, he is Past Master in Haggling. It was like unfolding of Devil's Advocate. At the end of the dicussion, I was literally squirming in the seat.
But then thats how you get great deals.

White dudes have a flair for it .
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