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Old 2nd November 2012, 22:58   #1366
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Those who got Kia or Hyundai models from 2011-2013 are now eligible for compensation. Hyundai and Kia admit exaggerated mileage claims.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/02/h...-compensate-o/

The table showing the models and difference is attached. Respective owners, please make sure you are compensated for Hyundai's mistake.

I wonder when they will accept the exaggerated claims of power numbers too.
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Those who got Kia or Hyundai models from 2011-2013 are now eligible for compensation. Hyundai and Kia admit exaggerated mileage claims.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/02/h...-compensate-o/

The table showing the models and difference is attached. Respective owners, please make sure you are compensated for Hyundai's mistake.

I wonder when they will accept the exaggerated claims of power numbers too.
This is awesome. I didn't buy Elantra because of the 40MPG claim but other features. Now I'll get a check for $100+ every year from Hyundai for rest of the car's life .
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This is awesome. I didn't buy Elantra because of the 40MPG claim but other features. Now I'll get a check for $100+ every year from Hyundai for rest of the car's life .
That is true. I thought about you and was happy that you would be one of those. I there is another member (MJothi - IIRC) who also got a Genesis Coupe in 2012. I am not sure if GC is covered but if it is, good for him.

Do post the process once you have info on how you will receive it. It would be good to hear and i can pass it to my friends who got Hyundai cars in 2012.
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That is true. I thought about you and was happy that you would be one of those. I there is another member (MJothi - IIRC) who also got a Genesis Coupe in 2012. I am not sure if GC is covered but if it is, good for him.

Do post the process once you have info on how you will receive it. It would be good to hear and i can pass it to my friends who got Hyundai cars in 2012.
The process starts with checking if the vehicle is qualified for the reimbursement on this link - https://hyundaimpginfo.com/

My car is of course qualified. I've provided my contact info and they'll be getting back with more information on further process. They've mentioned that they would notify me when I need to get my ownership verified through the dealer and once that is done, I'll get a pre-paid debit card which they will load every year.
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Here is the list of cars that are affected - https://hyundaimpginfo.com/overview/affected-models

Mods: Sorry for back to back posts. Missed the 30 minute window by few seconds.
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Vineeth - I have been staying in the same address since I took my current insurance. I don't think my area has higher accident/theft area.
Has your commute distance increased? Have you added another driver? Were there any repairs done on the car in the last one year?

These are some of the things that can increase your premium.
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Vineeth - I have been staying in the same address since I took my current insurance. I don't think my area has higher accident/theft area.
You may be doing your due diligence by driving well as an individual, but you are still a hapless member under a bigger insurance umbrella that includes a million others. An insurance company can (and invariably does) choose to raise rates if it 'expects' (and why would it not) to pay more legal fees/settlements/medical payoffs, calculated over the entire insured community. In short, you are paying for the chump 200 miles away who took his car to the collision shop twice last year.

Insurance companies also enjoy a tremendous clout over state governments, and can get 'permission' from states to raise rates.

The finest scam on earth is Insurance. Unfortunately, to get the better of it, you have to be a victim The best driver - in the eyes of the insurer - is one who does not drive at all.

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That is true. I thought about you and was happy that you would be one of those. I there is another member (MJothi - IIRC) who also got a Genesis Coupe in 2012. I am not sure if GC is covered but if it is, good for him.

Do post the process once you have info on how you will receive it. It would be good to hear and i can pass it to my friends who got Hyundai cars in 2012.
Thats me . I need to check if i get back anything, but i really want to know how much people go by the statements on Gas mileage.
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Thats me . I need to check if i get back anything, but i really want to know how much people go by the statements on Gas mileage.
Thanks for coming out of closet to reveal your identity.

Hows your GC coming along? What kinda mileage you get? I have many friends who don't get anywhere close to EPA estimates on their Sonatas and Genesis. When i had hyundai rentals, it was the same issue. I am not sure if it is widespread or not, but in my circle, it surely is the norm
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A good resource for the mpg conscious:

http://www.fueleconomy.gov

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Thanks for coming out of closet to reveal your identity.

Hows your GC coming along? What kinda mileage you get? I have many friends who don't get anywhere close to EPA estimates on their Sonatas and Genesis. When i had hyundai rentals, it was the same issue. I am not sure if it is widespread or not, but in my circle, it surely is the norm
It is harder to hit FE numbers with most turbo charged engines in real world conditions. This is more so because most people end up hitting the boost zone than not. This is true not just with the Hyundai/Kia turbos, but also the Ford ecoboost etc. I'm not very sure about the new BMW 2.0 and 3.0 turbos on the 3 series engines.. do they deliver the promised EPA numbers?
Another very common thing is designing your cars drive train to ace the EPA tests and come up with very high FE figures. Real wold driving conditions are a far cry from test conditions.
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It is harder to hit FE numbers with most turbo charged engines in real world conditions. This is more so because most people end up hitting the boost zone than not. This is true not just with the Hyundai/Kia turbos, but also the Ford ecoboost etc. I'm not very sure about the new BMW 2.0 and 3.0 turbos on the 3 series engines.. do they deliver the promised EPA numbers?
Another very common thing is designing your cars drive train to ace the EPA tests and come up with very high FE figures. Real wold driving conditions are a far cry from test conditions.
It may be true about turbo models, but what about regular NA engines that power sonata and genesis - 2.4L and 3.8L resp that sells the most.

Yes, i am aware that real world conditions are not the same as test conditions but if that is the case why other cars match their EPAs and most of the time beat it? Case in point, camry and g35 for apples to apples comparison to sonata and genesis
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It may be true about turbo models, but what about regular NA engines that power sonata and genesis - 2.4L and 3.8L resp that sells the most.

Yes, i am aware that real world conditions are not the same as test conditions but if that is the case why other cars match their EPAs and most of the time beat it? Case in point, camry and g35 for apples to apples comparison to sonata and genesis
Hyundai has accepted they overstated the FE figures due to some mistake in their test procedure. So they should be able to meet the new advertised mpg ratings.
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Hyundai has accepted they overstated the FE figures due to some mistake in their test procedure. So they should be able to meet the new advertised mpg ratings.
I am not just pointing fingers to Hyunda/Kia. It is applicable to Ford Escape too as i have not read one review that says it matches the EPA. Most of the time it is huge difference.
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Thats too bad, techno. Hang in there.
NYC, New Jersey and of course the coast line got hit real bad. A colleague of mine here has family back in NJ. Today he had to rush back because his building is under mandatory evacuation due to flood water damage to the foundation.
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Hang in there guys. This too shall pass.

Hope you're all safe.
Thanks, got power back on Friday afternoon. There are fewer areas now which are without power but commute to NYC is still a pain with most channels closed for individual travel. My office is flooded & may not be ready before December.

In other news, I replaced tires on my Accord, after lot of confusion went with the stock tires Michelin Pilot MXM4, not cheap at all but cant skimp on safety for saving money while spending on Tires. Got it from Costco, they had $70 off when you buy 4 tires + the whole package with Free lifetme rotation, Nitrogen fill etc etc.

Also bought Door pockets for my car which are OEM for the CrossTourer & they fit perfectly & add a little space to store stuff.

Honda Accord Genuine Factory OEM 08U14-TP6-100 Crosstour Door Grip Pocket 2010 - 2012 (set of 2 for drivers and passenger front doors)
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