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Old 20th October 2005, 19:15   #1
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Default Auto magazine U.K. Top 100 cars for 2005

http://www.auto.co.il/Content/Articl...eliability.jpg

For reliability, all top 16 Japanese, nothing surprising and Honda and Toyota at top as usual.

http://www.honda.co.il/ViewImage.asp...60Top20100.jpg
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Japs rule in reliability and also Hyundai is not behind with 20th place.
But what a shame for Mercedes with C class in 54th place.
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The Koreans to their credit have made some huge strides, nice to see that.
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This is odd. In the J.D.Power survey, the Skoda Octavia beat the lexus in initial quality if I am not wrong. I remember reading the results and getting surprised at them. Different survey's throw up different results. Here, the Octavia comes in at 17th.
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results change in each and every test review. User reviews are the best.
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Old 21st October 2005, 02:26   #6
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Japs rule in reliability and also Hyundai is not behind with 20th place.
But what a shame for Mercedes with C class in 54th place.
Mercedes has taken a beating in recent years anyway. Look at the BMW 5 Series at #60. I didn't expect that.
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Whats the second link about? It shows top 100 cars (in what?) and Mercedes E class is at no. 10, Toyota Yaris at no. 13, Honda CR-V at no. 17 and Honda Civic at No. 20. Even the MG ZT is at no. 15.
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Octavia beating the Lexus would be a first, its close cousin VW Passat gets far lower ratings and Lexus and Octavia are in a different league altogether, Lexus has been at the top in almost every ratings done for new and used cars including the most stringent CR in US, so I would take the J.D. Powers report with a dollop of salt, having participated in J.D. Powers myself, it is based on owner feedback, not everyone is honest there whereas a true test like in CR is done through extensive tests of their own as well as based on a huge data collected from dealership and owners, this actually gives out reliability ratings far more accurately.
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No Suzuki car in the top 100....
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No Suzuki car in the top 100....
Suzuki finished last in the 2005 J.D.Power IQS in USA.
Either Maruti-Suzuki India is doing something really great, which means Suzuki USA needs to learn from their Indian partner or Indian's are still not getting quality on par with international standards or North Americans have no idea about quality. Take your pick. I think it's the last option! Most GM cars score high on IQS which is BS. GM can't even assemble cars correctly, forget about engine, transmission etc.

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Can't blame Suzuki, they hardly sell in the US, no market for under 130bhp vehicles, although the Grand Vitara does sell good.
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First of all i don't like American cars and I will pick the last option that North americans have no idea about quality which is shown in their cars.
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First of all i don't like American cars and I will pick the last option that North americans have no idea about quality which is shown in their cars.
and you choose that because you like japanese automobiles in general (or suzuki specifically), or because you dislike american automobiles?

we Indians have been ignorant about "quality shown" in our cars for the past two decades or more, and still are - accepting outdated, rejected products as premium segment products.
which market in the world are maruti-suzuki products - 800, alto, zen or the highly over-rated baleno - still being sold? India. because, we accept such garbage, and gladly at that.

would any of those products sell in North America or any European nation? nope, but suzuki knows they'll sell in India and hence.....

i'd prefer if you elaborate a little on your post
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if i were to get an opportunity to own a Car it would certainly be American and my personal liking would be a

Cadillac Fleetwood

for its luxury, feel factor (something i really cant put in words)

but as my resources are less I had no option but to settle for a Nissan Altima (8 yr oldy) never skips a beat, never fails to start, Never Says Die
will take all abuse with occassional oil change.
These are the kind of factors we as Indians look when we buy a Car.

Japs do produce reliable cars but after some time (when you have the Money) and when fuel maintainence etc is no factor then American Cars are really superb, luxury, convenience, so many things Wow.


ABOVE ALL
when it comes to SAFETY in the real sense sheer STRENGTH the American Cars are real TANKS. Jap cars crumple beyond recognition above 60mph. These are THE CARS to be in on India's Highways.

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I see a Subaru at Top 24, I dont see a Lancer any where..not even an EVO........SAD...
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