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Old 17th October 2011, 22:07   #16
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Maybe a stupid question.
How come Red Bull are allowed two teams?
Don't see anything odd in Red Bull being one of the sponsors for two teams.
But it sounds as if they are related, in the sense that Vettel was blooded at Torro Rosso before moving to Red Bulls. Which implies that they have four cars, and in principle can use the red bulls to block their rivals when being lapped
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Maybe a stupid question.
How come Red Bull are allowed two teams?
Don't see anything odd in Red Bull being one of the sponsors for two teams.
But it sounds as if they are related, in the sense that Vettel was blooded at Torro Rosso before moving to Red Bulls. Which implies that they have four cars, and in principle can use the red bulls to block their rivals when being lapped
Why do they have two teams?

Because they have twice the sponsorship money.

I don't think the Toro Rossos are really in the same league as Red Bull Racing and wont be far ahead enough to block the Mclarens and Ferraris unless they are being lapped. I beleive there are also strict rules about the slower cars having to move out of the way when a faster car is lapping it.
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What happened to Hamilton? Dont see any excitement on his face after securing the pole, he looks disappointed rather
This maybe the reason.
From the Martin Brundle column BBC Sport - Martin Brundle column: Thrilled by intense Korean racing

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I don't know Hamilton well enough to fully understand what may be going on, but I have known and observed him for a number of years and he's clearly in an emotionally bad place. I've heard the gossip about him splitting with his girlfriend, the pop singer Nicole Scherzinger, and we don't see his family close by any more as we very much did in the early years.

My reading was that Hamilton wanted to send a message to somebody about how unhappy he is at the moment, and so chose not to celebrate his excellent pole position in the normal manner.
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Why do they have two teams?

Because they have twice the sponsorship money.

I don't think the Toro Rossos are really in the same league as Red Bull Racing and wont be far ahead enough to block the Mclarens and Ferraris unless they are being lapped. I beleive there are also strict rules about the slower cars having to move out of the way when a faster car is lapping it.
Yup.
This was the erstwhile minardi, which acted as a feeder for other big teams.
Now STR acts as a feeder for RBR, apparently.
Plus, RBR has newey on board, and I think STR receive hand-me-down tech from RBR from last year.
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Its a little off topic but during testing noticed that Alonso car had FW which is very similar to red bull and have heard using this as test wing for 2012,


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Also that after suzuka crash of vettel in practice a part of FW was missing lol
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Its a little off topic but during testing noticed that Alonso car had FW which is very similar to red bull and have heard using this as test wing for 2012,


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Also that after suzuka crash of vettel in practice a part of FW was missing lol
Newey was complaining that the FW went missing after Webber binned his car around the parabolica. Well, he did mention that the front wing might be there at Maranello as well

...check out the 2012 Mercedes wing that was tested

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inference is that other teams are getting to try what redbull have done over a full season and dunno what newey will be up to next season as he has stopped attending races to work on RB8
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