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Old 23rd July 2012, 23:59   #46
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Teams orders are allowed though they will never say "impede him for your team-mate". But he was reminded (over radio - while following Vettel) that Jenson was catching up and he has to be careful of not impeding Jenson.
Both the situations are 'but obvious'

1. They'll never say but its implied or else apart from the team-mate, Lewis would have (should be) confronted if he didn't do that.
Remember, '99 Malaysian GP? Schumi hold Hakkinen for the whole race for? Eddie Irvine!

2. This radio message is common among all the teams.


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If a driver gains any advantage whatsoever, it is deemed illegal.
Vettel did.

And... correct me if I'm wrong. This rule was never in force in 2003. Rule 20.2 was amended in 2011. So, Schumacher broke no rules back in 2003 overtaking Trulli.

If it ain't illegal it aint unethical, hence its not wrong!
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Episode 2 of 'Tooned' released for the German GP. Hilarious!

Keep your eyes open, there are many a things happening in the background.

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And... correct me if I'm wrong. This rule was never in force in 2003. Rule 20.2 was amended in 2011. So, Schumacher broke no rules back in 2003 overtaking Trulli.

If it ain't illegal it aint unethical, hence its not wrong!
Yes, the current rule was created only after this incident to provide clarity.
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Kimi doing what he does best. One of the highlights of last weekends GP IMHO.

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Incident helped Button gain few seconds and frustrated Vettel. Team will never radio in such situation (due to team orders) but drivers are smart enough to understand the situation and act in a manner which will benefit the team.
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Both the situations are 'but obvious'

1. They'll never say but its implied or else apart from the team-mate, Lewis would have (should be) confronted if he didn't do that.
Remember, '99 Malaysian GP? Schumi hold Hakkinen for the whole race for? Eddie Irvine!

2. This radio message is common among all the teams.
I am having difficulty understanding you. First, you said they will never radio (due to team orders). Now you say it's but obvious and common.

What are you talking about?
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I am having difficulty understanding you. First, you said they will never radio (due to team orders). Now you say it's but obvious and common.

What are you talking about?
Have you ever heard any team saying try to hold another car for your team mate? So holding up in situations like these is obvious. This will NOT be radioed.

You must have heard many times like Lewis was asked to let Button pass etc. This WILL be radioed because (correct if wrong) 2011 rules lifted ban on team orders. Otherwise you must have heard like Alonso is faster than you etc.

I thought it was pretty straight forward.
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I thought it was pretty straight forward.
Indeed, or it was probably a coded message to get Seb a bit more frustrated
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