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Old 1st October 2012, 15:52   #1
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Well well, this Silly season is truly turning out to be a perfect Silly Season, Now the F1 circus is on the wire with 6 GP's to go, we now enter the Asian sub-continent.

With a Bitter Divorce of 1) Mclaren - Hamilton
2) Mercedes - Schumacher

The season is unfolding very well in the last leg and we cant ask for more excitement than this

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It will be interesting to watch how Mclarens treat Hamilton now and whats Schumi gonna do in the situation he is in. It will be fun to watch


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Fri 05 October 2012

Practice 1 10:00 - 11:30

Practice 2 14:00 - 15:30


Sat 06 October 2012


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QUALIFYING 14:00


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Suzuka- Track Details

Race Date: 07 Oct 2012

First Grand Prix: 1987

Number of Laps: 53

Circuit Length: 5.807 km

Race Distance: 307.471 km

Lap Record: 1:31.540 - K. Raikkonen (2005)


Last years Top 10 finishes at Suzuka

2011 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Pos Driver Team
1 Jenson Button - McLaren-Mercedes
2 Fernando Alonso - Ferrari
3 Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing-Renault
4 Mark Webber - Red Bull Racing-Renault
5 Lewis Hamilton - McLaren-Mercedes
6 Michael Schumacher - Mercedes
7 Felipe Massa - Ferrari
8 Sergio Perez - Sauber-Ferrari
9 Vitaly Petrov - Renault
10 Nico Rosberg - Mercedes
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My wish list
1. Alonso
2. Lewis/Kimi or anybody who can increase the gap between Alonso and Vettel
3. Perez
Mallya is having terrible time here, let him have some consolation from his drivers.
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My wish list
1. Alonso
2. Lewis/Kimi or anybody who can increase the gap between Alonso and Vettel
3. Perez
Mallya is having terrible time here, let him have some consolation from his drivers.
I would love to see Alonso grab the WDC this year

My prediction for this race

1) Alonso
2) Button
3) Schumacher
4) Vettel
5) Grosjean
6) Kimi
7) Paul Di Riesta
8) Webber
9) Roseberg
10) Perez
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My prediction for this race

1) Alonso
2) Button
3) Schumacher
4) Vettel
5) Grosjean
6) Kimi
7) Paul Di Riesta
8) Webber
9) Roseberg
10) Perez
Oh wow, Hamilton not there in the prediction

I actually expect Hamilton to be in the top three, or even win the race. He will be keen to go off on a good note, and McLaren will not do anything stupid to harm their position in the constructor's standings.

Not a fan of Ferrari, but I would like to see Fernando to win the WDC this year.
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Putting my bets down.
I'm thinking a top 5 from both McLarens.
One on top.
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As usual I want Kimi to win. Guess this is the final chance for him, even to continue his very outside chance for WDC this season. If he's not in the top 2, no Kimi scare show for Alonso this season.
Probably another McL vs RBR race, but I guess it's Button's chance to get the blown car this time

My top 5 (wished):
1-2) Kimi / Hamilton
3-4) Vettel / Perez
5-6) Webber / Maldonaldo
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Oh wow, Hamilton not there in the prediction
The Bitter Divorce shadow will loom large over Hamilton, i am sure Mclaren would not want to lose out on the constructors trophy, but their main focus would be on Button than outgoing Hamilton

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Jenson is given a 5 place grid penalty for gear box change.
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After flexing front wings of Redbull, this year its the rotating front wings of the Mclaren. FIA will be conducting tests in Suzuka according to an article in AMuS

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/f...l-5819046.html

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Technical arguments dawn on F1 again. McLaren developed a front wing that has a secret: given sufficient aero force it rotates around its horizontal axis. Red Bull brought a more extreme version to Singapore. In Suzuka the FIA wants to have a closer look.

Looking at those pictures reveals nothing at all though. Basically they show lots of FWs and noses and in each instance in the caption it says that it's impossible to see here. So in that regard there is nothing much to discuss. But anyway, I thought it might be interesting for a non-German readership and to see if anyone has heard similar rumors. It's the first time I read about it for sure.

A recap of the flexi wing saga follows, claiming that RBR conducted extreme effort with these wings. They say there was a special version for nearly every track. Then they go on to say that the flexi wing secret was not only in the carbon fiber structures of the wing as such, but also in the wing supports, which had to be changed by many teams when FIA increased the load tests. However, the knowledge as such remained as allegedly more research was done.

McLaren apparently found the decisive loophole. "According to onlookers" the whole wing rotates around its horizontal axis. The wing is one of the reasons for McLaren's advantage

Apparently Ferrari found out about it and alerted the FIA. Several talks between FIA delegates and Whitmarsh followed. It was found that each wing support fastens the main wing element with just one screw at the wing's front edge, and the wing could rotate around this.

Because the 50 cm in the wing's center section must be the same on all cars, rotating the wing has two effects: it reduces the uplift in this area that the regulated center sections seeks to achieve, and it improves flow to the floor and therefore more downforce at the rear.

RBR was the first team to understand the McLaren development and followed up with a more extreme rotation in Singapore, where they introduced a new, slightly longer nose to work with the wing.

It will be interesting to see how the technical delegates react. Possibly there will be torsion tests in Suzuka. If the wings rotate, they will be banned. Otherwise a new cost race would start.
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After flexing front wings of Redbull, this year its the rotating front wings of the Mclaren. FIA will be conducting tests in Suzuka according to an article in AMuS

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/f...l-5819046.html

A crude translation of the article by KnucklesAgain from AtlasF1
Hmm, Seems to be a biggish loop hole and probably will get banned for next year. Anyways the common motto seems to be "If you can't get it banned, copy it OR vice-versa "

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Hmm, Seems to be a biggish loop hole and probably will get banned for next year. Anyways the common motto seems to be "If you can't get it banned, copy it OR vice-versa "
True, but it is too late in the season to copy something! Its brilliant how RB have quietly adapted to this bringing in an even more complete version of this pivoted front wings
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I am still not sure how teams failed to notice this "rotating" wing. They usually are on a very sharp lookout otherwise. If anything is rotating in that front wing, it most likely would be banned. Aren't moving aerodynamic devices illegal?

Edit: more here http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...-mclaren-wing/. It seems they are flexing beyond limits, not rotating.

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My prediction is Hamilton to come on top( provided the car remains trouble free ).
Seriously wish Schumi to finish in Top 5 atleast, so that he can finish his Team Mercedes association on a high.
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I'll love to see Alonso grab the World Championship title this year.......
Ferrari were always a dominant contender for a win at Suzuka. Remember Micheal (Ferrari) losing the lead to Alonso (Renault) in 2006 due to a blown engine! But, this year, McLaren have an edge when it comes to the straight line speed. Lewis might take it this year as he failed to complete the last race and statistics say that he drives to the limit when he's unhappy with something! Also, watch out for Grosjean at the first corner as he may spoil the party.........
My wish list:

1. Lewis
2. Alonso
3. Vettel

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Flavio Briatore tweets that Mclaren needs to modify the front wing in Japan and they would lose performance.

Yes, the pantie man says this! I dint believe EJ and he was spot on with his predicition, now this...
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