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Old 8th November 2012, 04:53   #136
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I still don't get it.

You guys are saying it's the styro-barrier that caused the damage.

Which means that the nosecone is so weak it is susceptible to such damage just because of Styrofoam?

So there is no way that the same thing could have passed FIA's tests...
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[quote=StarrySky;2953235]I think that because Vettel started last and there were 2 SC periods, everyone assumes he benefited hugely from them. I actually don't think Vettel gained all that much with safety cars. He was upto 13th on merit before the first SC was deployed.
There's no doubt that Vettel drove a brilliant race and totally deserved to be among the points but the first SC period clearly helped him as he pitted during the SC period which saved him a lot of time as he caught up the trail of cars before the safety car came in.Taking nothing away from him I completely agree with what hamilton said after the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix that Vettel is one of the luckiest F1 Drivers at this point of time.
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Which means that the nosecone is so weak it is susceptible to such damage just because of Styrofoam?

So there is no way that the same thing could have passed FIA's tests...
You're comparing an impact loading with a static load. Wholly different. Carbon fibre is extremely hard, and extremely brittle. Its just waiting for an opportunity to crush itself, so eager it is to deform.

The FIA test, as we read in those links, is just a static loading test. And in one of the pictures, its seen that the loading is vertical, whereas Vettel's impact was obviously horizontal. And fibres are highly anisotropic (longitudinally very strong, laterally crappy). Now I'm not sure how the carbon fibres are structured in a nose cone, but that might be a reason for breaking so readily in the crash while at the same time taking up static loads in excess of 100kgs.

And I haven't seen the footage closely yet, but I guess it was at high speed. And light things CAN do damage at elevated speeds.

If anyone could explain the technical aspects of it it would be great.

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The first damage to Vettel's wing was from a collision with Bruno Senna. He picked up more damage when he hit the styrofoam and he hit it with the right end of his front wing.
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Oh yes, now I remember. The damage from Senna's collision was manageable, although Vettel was apprehensive about it and asked over the radio whether the nose should be changed in the SC period, his engineer told him to stay put since the data they were receiving told them the front wing was fine.

Only after the styrofoam damage did they decide to replace it and we saw the pitstop (youtube link in previous post somewhere ^^) happen.
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Red Bull nose seems fine.

http://www.f1zone.net/news/specialis...se-saga/16618/

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“The FIA have made it known that the ‘soft nature’ of the nose is what is required in order to avoid dangerous consequences should the cone come into contact with the side of another car,” Cremonesi explained.
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Photos as promised.

The pit walk

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In action

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The autograph session

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With the extremely humble legend

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