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Old 3rd July 2013, 20:51   #331
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So what does reduced here mean? Operating window has become smaller or operating temperatures would fall (so you do not need to put as much heat) or operating temperatures would go higher (i.e. more heat required) ?
Kevlar is a highly heat resistant material and I think this is what causes less heat buildup in the tire and hence the lower operating temperature.

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- Tires were under inflated.
- Tires were mounted the wrong way round i.e. left on right side & vice-versa. Tires are asymmetrical.
Under inflation could be a possible reason because of the performance gain but don't think the teams are that stupid that they will mount the tyres wrong way. Each tyre is clearly labeled FL, FR, RL, RR that too with the name of the driver so that they don't even mount it on the other driver by mistake. These teams are not amateurs to commit such epic blunders. Is Pirelli passing the buck ?
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Under inflation could be a possible reason because of the performance gain but don't think the teams are that stupid that they will mount the tyres wrong way. Each tyre is clearly labeled FL, FR, RL, RR that too with the name of the driver so that they don't even mount it on the other driver by mistake. These teams are not amateurs to commit such epic blunders. Is Pirelli passing the buck ?
Interchanging tires was done intentionally by some teams to try to get on top of tire wear. I recall Pat Symonds discussing having tried this for a couple of races in the 90s as well.
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Apparently Brawn wants FIA to monitor tire pressure. Very telling of how difficult it is in the sport to discourage practices which can lead to improved performance even at the cost of safety.

FIA should monitor tyre pressures says Brawn/
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^^ What Brawn says is Rubbish. Then FIA should also monitor teams mounting tyres on the wrong side of the car. He is trolling with a fixed agenda in mind. It was Lewis's car that was running the tyres on the wrong sides of the car!
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From that article Maky posted..

So what does reduced here mean? Operating window has become smaller or operating temperatures would fall (so you do not need to put as much heat) or operating temperatures would go higher (i.e. more heat required) ?

I am assuming it's the 2nd option. Anyway, if they are returning to 2012 tires, I guess no one would complain about tires not lasting. By the end of last year, most races were down to 1-2 stops.
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There is no specific operating temparature for a tyre, there is a range of temparature in which the tyre will start to work. This is the operating window of the tyre, with the kevlar material the tyre needs...
Upon thought anach...
Operating temperature denotes the temperature during which the tyre will operate at it's most optimal. I guess if it's going down by 10C It should mean that it will be easier(i.e. quicker) to get to the operating range(offer max grip) however I'm unsure that the operating temp going down will have an effect on deg or not, Basically I'm unsure how much of that is dependant on the operating temps and the main compound itself. I'm inclined to believe it will make them degrade less which is why Ferrari Inc. is all up in arms against it. & RBR all for it right?
I'll ask people more knowledgeable on the same to get it confirmed.
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Upon thought anach...
Operating temperature denotes the temperature during which the tyre will operate at it's most optimal. I guess if it's going down by 10C It should mean that it will be easier(i.e. quicker) to get to the operating range(offer max grip) however I'm unsure that the operating temp going down will have an effect on deg or not, Basically I'm unsure how much of that is dependant on the operating temps and the main compound itself. I'm inclined to believe it will make them degrade less which is why Ferrari Inc. is all up in arms against it. & RBR all for it right?
I'll ask people more knowledgeable on the same to get it confirmed.
The operating temp I am referring to is the temp taken at stabilized hot pressure on the track. In other words, this is what you measure with telemetry and manually in the pits when the car comes back after a run.
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Rumours that Kimi is all set for Red Bull and the Hulk to replace him. In any case, Lotus will want to delay this as long as possible to make sure they have enough sponsorship lined up for 2014 and beyond.
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Thank God no real drama re tyres at Nürburgring. Webber losing his wheel cannot be attributed to the tyres.

I missed out the bit where Massa retired, did hear something about the car going left. I enjoyed the race, but we could have done without the two safety Car periods. Also, if there was no safety car interruption Alonso would have run out of fuel about two laps before the end.
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This is sad!

Nico Hulkenberg driving for Sauber continues, but has no more contract, because the Swiss team can no longer pay his salary

Source: AF1, http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/n..._13070701.html
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This is sad!

Nico Hulkenberg driving for Sauber continues, but has no more contract, because the Swiss team can no longer pay his salary

Source: AF1, http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/n..._13070701.html
That's sad, he should have stayed back at SFI. Rumours are that Sauber might be bailed out by some rich Russian groups. Abromavich might also have a stake. I felt sad reading Peter Sauber's interview on their current state. They have always challenged above their weight.
It might also mean curtains for Senor Guttiaraez. I don't think many people will miss him anyways.
Nico to Lotus will be a good move. The Ice Man's interview in recent days was very candid- RedBull want me, I need to decide..... so is he waiting for a better offer from them ??
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Eric Boullier says Red Bull are making a big effort to secure Kimi Raikkonen’s services for 2014.

Eric Boullier on keeping Kimi, 2014, & more
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So thats close to a done deal between RB & Kimi.

Kimi will get his bank account full and also a car that can win championship if he goes to RedBull. I will be surprised if Kimi decides to stay back at Lotus for 2014!

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So thats close to a done deal between RB & Kimi.

Kimi will get his bank account full and also a car that can win championship if he goes to RedBull. I will be surprised if Kimi decides to stay back at Lotus for 2014!
That will be awesome team chemistry at RBR next year then.
If vettel tries the same as he did with webber, I "think" we will see the finger made to "dissappear" courtesy Kimi.
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So thats close to a done deal between RB & Kimi.

Kimi will get his bank account full and also a car that can win championship if he goes to RedBull.
2014 is anybody' guess with regard to having a championship winning car. Who knows who will come out on top?

Sure, RBR certainly has more resources when compared to Lotus. And Lotus just lost Allison as well.
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