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Old 3rd March 2014, 11:58   #526
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Came across this link while browsing Autosport. They seem to be having a GP prediction portal for the 2014 season. Predict 1-10 finishers, pole, fastest lap etc. for each race.

http://gppredictor.com/

Since most of us would be closely following all the race weekends anyway, it should be fun if there are enough folks joining in for a TBHP league. Anyone else interested?
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This looks like the best analysis of the pecking order.
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Behind the lead group, it all looks very fuzzy. The Red Bull looks horrible to drive for the first time in years, and it looks like Vettel may have his hands on the first real "pig" of a car (As Prost fondly called his Ferrari), since 2008.
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We're in for some epic racing this year. Fasten your seatbelts folks !
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Don't write off RBR. With the limited running they had, they are already doing very good times. You can possibly write off the first one or two races as real-time data collection and then they will come back very strong.
See Button's comment:

http://grandprix247.com/2014/03/03/b...-overtook-him/

It is still a long season ahead. The usual suspects will be back in couple of races. Still, this season could be quite memorable for the chaos
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I stopped watching Cricket after the Legendary Dravid , Kumble and Tendulkar left. Now just following it in stray incidents.

F1 to me was, is and will always remain Michael Schumacher, somehow followed the 2013 season, but somehow dont see the Fun in F1 anymore, maybe 2014 will be different, so probably i may not start threads in this section immediately / untill the Legend wakes up from COMA..

I hope this season gets a little different and exciting.
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Peter Windsor talks to Autosport's Glenn Freeman. Glenn reckons Ferrari is a second slower than Mercedes based on the numbers from the race simulations at Bahrain. And its Williams which is the closest to Merc on top.



I have been reading reports from everywhere and the following is the order that most people have put money on. Let's wait and watch.

1) Mercedes
2) Williams
3) Ferrari
4) McLaren & Force India

then) Renault powered teams

I have no idea where to put the Sauber and Marussia.

Are we going to see Hamilton vs. Massa part 2? Or will RBR bounce to the top step once the niggles are overcome? Can't wait!

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Both had fewer retirements than their team mates last year.

Over the years will most things being 'semi-automated' drivers cant really break cars.. take anti stall for example.. if the revs are too low at the start.. it kicks in saving the engine, too much throttle at corner exits.. rev limiter kicks in.

Drivers dont just drive.. they drive the way their cars are supposed to be driven.

It reminds me of Richard Hammond driving an F1 car for the first time.. anti stall kicked in 8 times!

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Hamilton & Vettel are used to the driving style of pushing the limits as much as possible which increases the failure risk with the new specs. Compared to their team mates, they had more issues probably due to their more aggressive driving style which would be good for the team since they would discover issues that other would only realize mid season.
Less than 2 weeks to go! and havent we spoken a lot about the build up.

Really glad Red Bull will not be on top again.. they have a quickish car so they could shine in quali but will welcome not seeing that dreaded finger up on the podium.. I expect it to stay well tucked away up until Spain.

Will be nice to see Massa up there.. out of Fernando's shadow and being able to lead a team. People will realise how quick he really is.

Nice vs Lewis will be another cracker!
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1) Mercedes
2) Williams
3) Ferrari
4) McLaren & Force India

then) Renault powered teams

I have no idea where to put the Sauber and Marussia.
Here is my opinion of the pecking order currently.

1) Mercedes
2) Williams
3) Ferrari
4) McLaren
5) Force India
6) Sauber
7) Toro Rosso
8) Red Bull
9) Lotus
10) Marussia
11) Caterham

That said, once reliability is sorted out, expect Red Bull to slot themselves just above or below Ferrari since the RBR seemed to have the best grip levels through the corners based on the limited running from Ricciardo.

As for Lotus, I feel they might end up competing with Sauber once their woes are sorted out, though its not likely that they'll be able to sort out the issues as fast as Red Bull.

In the Caterham-Marussia battle, Marussia is a better car at present but since both teams are unlikely to score points, the car with better reliability during the first few races would win their championship battle due to the better finishing position they would get due to the expected higher retirement rate from other teams in these races.
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Peter Windsor talks to Autosport's Glenn Freeman. Glenn reckons Ferrari is a second slower than Mercedes based on the numbers from the race simulations at Bahrain. And its Williams which is the closest to Merc on top.
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Don't write off RBR. With the limited running they had, they are already doing very good times. You can possibly write off the first one or two races as real-time data collection and then they will come back very strong.
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I'm sorry, but you're confused between downforce and aerodynamic efficiency.
With high aerodynamic efficiency, they will have good downforce in the corners when they need it and will have MINIMUM DRAG at top speeds.
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Came across this link while browsing Autosport. They seem to be having a GP prediction portal for the 2014 season. Predict 1-10 finishers, pole, fastest lap etc. for each race.

http://gppredictor.com/

Since most of us would be closely following all the race weekends anyway, it should be fun if there are enough folks joining in for a TBHP league. Anyone else interested?

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Here is the verdict from Stephano, another year playing catchup with other teams. Now we got Williams as well to fight

http://en.espnf1.com/ferrari/motorsp...ry/147539.html
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This year's cars are getting faster and faster
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Are you suggesting then, that Red Bull are at par with the rest?

Teams also 'try to break' their cars in order to understand component limits like Lewis has mentioned. Since we again do not know the order of the day, it would be wrong to classify it as a retirement.
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Don't write off RBR. With the limited running they had, they are already doing very good times. You can possibly write off the first one or two races as real-time data collection and then they will come back very strong.
See Button's comment:

http://grandprix247.com/2014/03/03/b...-overtook-him/

It is still a long season ahead. The usual suspects will be back in couple of races. Still, this season could be quite memorable for the chaos
The problem in F1 is, the pace of development is so fast that if you're behind by even a couple of races, then you're left playing catch up. Mercedes 2012 is a classic case of this. The car was really good out of the box, then reliability gremlins hit them and after the halfway point, the car was barely even getting into Q3.

In this case, we are in a new season, with new regulations, so the scope of innovations is huge and we'll see all teams improving by perhaps even close to a second each race in the early part of the season. So while Red Bull is on its back with major cooling and handling and most importantly engine issues, the rest of the grid is already sprinting away.

Knowing Newey, I suspect we'll see a major update in time for Barcelona, but will they get back on top ? I suspect not. I'll reserve my final judgement based on the grid in Australia.
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Just 11 more days!

A good read to understand what the F1 teams are doing now.

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The factories will be 100% operational right now in ensuring that the cars leave with enough spares for the first race. For example ideally one wants 6 front wings at each race, with 4 being considered the bare minimum. Typically a team may go with 2 to 3 launch specification front wings and 2 to 3 Melbourne update wings, one of which will have probably been run at Bahrain. Each front wing can take up to 4 to 6 weeks to make from scratch so if any were damaged in the last track test production will struggle to replace it in time.
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Source: AtlasF1 Forum

On Ferrari's troubles!

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- we have problems with rear tyre degradation
- engine too aggressive and too much torque[
- we have problems running batteries at full power and we run during tests without full power (not cause we wanted to but cause we weren't able to do so)
- we lack in traction in slow corners and downforce in high speed corners
- we must run low downforce due to fuel consumption.
- Our engine has higher consumption and we are forced to run low downforce to reduce drag. In fact we recorded top speed but we are slow in cornering.
- Overall rumors agree we are far behind mercedes (more than 1s)
- Domenical in tv said we are behind mercedes and williams.. and not by a small margin. Focus is already on catching the competition.
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The news emerged as Austrians Helmut Marko, the Red Bull director, and Mercedes’ Niki Lauda light-heartedly discussed the future during Monday’s Sport and Talk programme on Servus TV.

Marko jokingly revealed that Team Chairman Lauda is keen to lure Vettel and Chief Designer Adrian Newey to Mercedes.

“Niki comes every day and asks if Newey and Sebastian will go,” he said.

Lauda replied: “But you always tell me that Newey and Sebastian have contracts until 2017.”

“Right,” confirmed Marko. “So why do you keep coming every day?”

Lauda beamed: “Breakfast!”


Source: http://grandprix247.com/2014/03/04/v...-claims-lauda/

Cheers!
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Azerbaijan is the next stop. Capital Baku will host a street race in 2016. With Indian Gp, London street race, we are looking at 22 races. Maybe by 2020, it will be 25. Boys, forget the summer break :P

Source : http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/motorsport/story/147809.html
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Azerbaijan is the next stop. Capital Baku will host a street race in 2016. With Indian Gp, London street race, we are looking at 22 races. Maybe by 2020, it will be 25. Boys, forget the summer break :P

Source : http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/motorsport/story/147809.html
They might take turns for taking off and probably have 3 cars per team and run two taking turns. Like cost caps, the teams might have mandated leaves and cool-off periods and there will be a process for this

Its like India playing against Netherlands or Ireland in the league matches. You will not see the top players run here. But you still need to win.

So you can see Alonso in Melbourne, Spa and Sao Paolo and probably not in Baku, Delhi and Istanbul.
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They might take turns for taking off and probably have 3 cars per team and run two taking turns. Like cost caps, the teams might have mandated leaves and cool-off periods and there will be a process for this

Its like India playing against Netherlands or Ireland in the league matches. You will not see the top players run here. But you still need to win.

So you can see Alonso in Melbourne, Spa and Sao Paolo and probably not in Baku, Delhi and Istanbul.
This could evolve like the Cricket World Cup slots for the non-test playing nations. There would be some top and midfield teams that qualify by default based on previous year's performance. Others would need to fight it out in the league and the top 2-3 teams or so qualify. So the likes of Caterham and Marussia won't have an assured slot unless they get to the top in the league.

The downside of this whole idea is that the multiple shifts would mean escalating costs to an already cash-strapped venture that could drive smaller teams away. If the teams down the order do not have an assured slot in the grid, it would be even more difficult for them to attract sponsorships and would lead to insufficient funds and withdrawal of these teams from F1. Such a situation would eventually lead to F1 being a 3-4 team sport.
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Williams announces the much anticipates Martini Sponsorship.

Car looks beautiful IMO.
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