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Old 7th October 2014, 14:08   #46
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THe video is indeed horrible. Didn't realise the speed with which he hit the crane till i saw this particular video. With hindsight probably the safety car should have been on track before recovery began

Till a few minutes before this incident rains were on the wane and teams had moved to intermediate tyres. Anyway if the race conditions were too dangerous it was FIA's call to red flag the race at any point. So i don't think it is fair to blame Honda for refusing to accept the offer of an earlier race (there would have been commercial reasons and formula 1 is highly commercialised now)
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Never had I seen that video before until it was on here. That crash looks really bad. The roll hoop is absolutely crushed and that is one of the strongest parts of the car. I really hope Jules recovers without much complications.
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Update on Jules Bianchi. He has suffered Diffuse Axonal Injury.

About 90% of survivors with severe diffuse axonal injury remain unconscious. The 10% that regain consciousness are often severely impaired.

It looks like his F1 career is effectively over. It was very very sad to read this. He is undoubtedly one of the best talents on the current grind, the best if one simply compare to the garbage pay drivers, to loose what I thought was a future potential WDC is indeed very sad.
I pray for a speedy recovery.
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It looks like his F1 career is effectively over. It was very very sad to read this. He is undoubtedly one of the best talents on the current grind, the best if one simply compare to the garbage pay drivers, to loose what I thought was a future potential WDC is indeed very sad.
I pray for a speedy recovery.
That's quite heartbreaking. I'd really have loved to see Jules drive for one of the top teams some day.

Its so sad to learn this, what these drivers do from a very very young age, they give their entire childhood, teenage for this passion and 1 such incidence spoils their entire life which lies ahead.. Its their life, they walk, sleep and live motor racing and if one gets impaired by such an accident, all one can do is look at their peers driving without even being able to sit in the car; all his dreams shattered.

I hope he recovers soon, and even if he's not able to drive(which will be the worst thing for him), atleast be able lead a normal life without any further complications.

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The Formula 1 website states that:
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Marussia driver Jules Bianchi is in a critical but stable condition. The Frenchman suffered a 'diffuse axonal injury' and remains in intensive care.
Source: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin.../10/16458.html

Upon checking Wikipedia for diffuse axonal injury, it is extremely disheartening to read:
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DAI is one of the major causes of unconsciousness and persistent vegetative state after head trauma. The outcome is frequently coma, with over 90% of patients with severe DAI never regaining consciousness. Those who do wake up often remain significantly impaired.
This is extremely disheartening. I only hope that as a non-medical person, I'm misreading something here. If not, and if this is true, then its possible that not just his racing career, but also Jules as the person we know him (a sweet guy in paddock interviews), not coming back.

My interest in F1 has been only in the recent years, where I've been seduced by the safety into thinking the sport was safe, and that crashes are exciting (to the audience) since they're not dangerous.
Now I feel terrible, and guilty. Now I understand what drivers-turned-commentators mean when they say "I don't want to watch that replay, once is enough". Now I can't watch a crash video again.
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Old 7th October 2014, 23:29   #51
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We do not know the severity of the DAI suffered by Bianchi. If you read the wikipedia further, it states -

Other authors state that DAI can occur in every degree of severity from (very) mild or moderate to (very) severe.Concussion may be a milder type of diffuse axonal injury.

Let's hope for best.
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Jules Bianchi has suffered "diffuse axonal injury".

Source link: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/07/sp...html?hpt=hp_t3

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The family of Jules Bianchi, the Formula One racing driver who was critically injured at Sunday's Japanese Grand Prix, have revealed that he is suffering from a "diffuse axonal injury."
It is a potentially devastating type of brain injury which causes widespread tearing of nerve fibers across the whole of the brain, according to the UK brain injury charity, Headway.
The 25-year-old Marussia driver remains in a critical but stable state, his family said in a statement released via the F1 team's official Facebook page.
"Jules remains in the Intensive Care Unit of the Mie General Medical Center in Yokkaichi. He has suffered a diffuse axonal injury and is in a critical but stable condition," the statement said.
"The medical professionals at the hospital are providing the very best treatment and care and we are grateful for everything they have done for Jules since his accident."
The Frenchman sustained his injuries after coming off the track and colliding with a recovery vehicle that was removing Adrian Sutil's Sauber car -- the German driver had skidded off the track at turn seven moments earlier in a rain-affected race.
"This is a very difficult time for our family, but the messages of support and affection for Jules from all over the world have been a source of great comfort to us. We would like to express our sincere appreciation," the statement said.
"We are also grateful for the presence of Professor Gerard Saillant, President of the FIA Medical Commission, and Professor Alessandro Frati, Neurosurgeon of the University of Rome La Sapienza, who has travelled to Japan at the request of Scuderia Ferrari.
"They arrived at the hospital today and met with the medical personnel responsible for Jules' treatment, in order to be fully informed of his clinical status so that they are able to advise the family.
"The hospital will continue to monitor and treat Jules and further medical updates will be provided when appropriate."
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What's the procedure for sending a SC out on track?
The Safety Car is under command of Race Control. This is nerve center during the race and all inputs come here from four five different layers of communications.

Red flagging is also privilege of only Race Control.

The chiefs of each area are in race control monitoring each inch of track on live wall and coordinating with each other and race director / COC. All communication is also being logged as is live feed from around the track.

Though each circuit has its own system but by and large the layers of communication are
Flag
Track
Recovery
Extrication/Medical
Fire
Pits
Safety / Course cars

As far as incidence and safety communication is concerned there are two parallel channels working while race is on
1. Flag does line calls in addition to safety calls
2. Track does safety calls

Once incidence reports then other teams are activated. If the Race Control feels it warrants safety car then it communicates "Safety Car on track" and all flag posts display SC signs. Digi panels also change display in parallel.

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While the signaling might have been technically correct, MP12 was waving yellow most of the time when recovery was in progress, while the recovery tractor was on the track.
See the diagram in my earlier post. The recovery happened just AFTER post #12 and the intervention exit was just BEFORE the same post.

As long as the track and intervention activity was AFTER the post they were waving double yellow.

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They began waving green before the tractor went back behind the barriers.
The moment recovery activity moved to area BEFORE the post they began waving green.

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While it is possible that Bianchi might have lost control braking for the double-yellow, I have an alternative theory. The he might have lost control accelerating for the green flag. Drivers' education in Europe teaches that you can begin accelerating when you see a speed limit sign for a higher speed, despite being in a lower speed zone. So the minute Bianchi saw the green flag, maybe he began accelerating - combining regular road driving education and racing instinct?
Flag, track and intervention protocols and clear and leave no room for interpretation on assumption. Green means track from this post onward is clear. We drill in to marshals "do not assume" if in doubt clarify but do not assume.

It was in milliseconds where was the minute

And if - a BIG IF - as you say Bianchi accelerated before even the curve or the post then it was error on his part. Period.
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My deepest condolence and Prayers for his speedy recovery. Looking at the Video, Bianchi is very lucky to be alive. The Vehicle looks like a Knife cutting through the Cake.

Suzuka Circuit has long curves which can be taken at high speeds. But, If you miss the traction, chances are that you slide a lot.
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As per the paper today Bianchi's injury will certainly leave him with some disability, and we may not know for a month. The swelling will take that long to subside, and only then will the prognosis be known.
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An article analysing the crash:
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ye...e-whole-story/
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This accident reminds me of robert kubica's rally accident which caused him a severe right hand injury. Two brilliant drivers careers almost finished within a blink of an eye. Now just hoping jules makes a full recovery.
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Internal actions and consultation are being held to improve safety. http://m.bbc.com/sport/formula1/29573232
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Latest update on Jules health.


Yokkaichi, Japan
14 October 2014, 00.00hrs local/16.00hrs BST

At the request of the family of Jules Bianchi, and in conjunction with the Mie General Medical Center in Yokkaichi, the Marussia F1 Team is able to provide the following information regarding Jules’ medical condition:

The past nine days have been extremely difficult for Jules and his family. As a consequence of the accident at Suzuka, a number of medical challenges have needed to be overcome and the situation remains challenging due to the diffuse axonal traumatic brain injury Jules has sustained.

Jules remains in a critical but stable condition in the Intensive Care Unit of Mie General Medical Center in Yokkaichi. The Bianchi family continue to be comforted by the thoughts and prayers of Jules’ many fans and the motor sport community. In particular, the many demonstrations of support and affection during the course of the Russian Grand Prix in Sochi were of enormous comfort to Jules’ parents and the relatives and friends also present at the hospital.

The family will provide further medical updates when appropriate.


Read more at http://www.marussiaf1team.com/news/1...fWXRzsezDKy.99
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This article makes for very grim reading. http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fa...crash-injuries

According to AWuS, the mandatory G-force sensor located in Bianchi' earplugs recorded an incredible 92 G impact. That's quite a force and the biggest I have heard from an racing accident thus far. Feel terribly sorry for the lad.

Keep fighting Jules!
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