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View Poll Results: Who will win the 2015 MotoGP championship?
Marc Marquez 21 15.22%
Jorge Lorenzo 27 19.57%
Dani Pedrosa 1 0.72%
Valentino Rossi 89 64.49%
Others 0 0%
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Old 28th June 2015, 14:07   #316
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Hmmm...So, Lorenzo is too boring for not getting into a dogfight with Rossi, and Marquez's racing style is wayward and dangerous. Double-standards, anyone?

It's good that you idolize a particular rider for his contribution in your life or whatever but, please stop shoving down your opinions down our throats. For example, if you're obsessed with someone or something so dearly, please limit that stuff to social media posts like Facebook, Twitter etc. I actually do that! On here though, please try to be rational and not just go dissing around everyone who fights against your 'hero'.
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Old 28th June 2015, 14:31   #317
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I'm not shoving my opinion on anyone, and you're free to disagree and support your rider as much as you want. If Marquez's style wasn't dangerous then yesterday's incident wouldn't have happened at all. And pray explain all the "racing incidents" and crashes that he's been a part of this season. Almost taking out other riders and pushing them off-track in desperate attempts to overtake them is just that - wayward and dangerous

I never solicited your advice on where to post what, and again, you're free to disagree and post your own thoughts and insights. Since you don't appreciate any "shoving", kindly refrain from doing the same around social media etiquette. Thanks!
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But seriously man.

14 seconds ?

If this had been boxing, referee would have stepped in and stopped the bloodletting.

Who said Moto GP was not a cotact sport. Every lap yesterday, lap after lap, was just a series of brutal beat downs on a guy on the ropes, showing neither fight nor heart enough to get off and come swinging.

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Old 28th June 2015, 16:37   #319
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Two reasons.
First - Lorenzo was simply not confident enough on the tyres bought to Assen which had lesser edge grip, robbing him of his strength, the corner speed. This is essentially the problem he faced in 1st half of last year.
A bit confused here. Both Yamaha guys were on the same new chassis and tyre combo, yet I'm not sure if there was tyre/grip grief here at all.

Some lovely slow-mo and corner shots here, especially at the 1:24/1:25 mark:



Some great shots and Rossi/Marc battle here as well. Amazing corner entries and exits:


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Parth buddy, appreciate the effort and will surely enjoy the videos and relive the glory tomorrow in office.

But if you are trying to call a spade a spade, you're in for a long and frustrating battle.

Better chill and do it like the papas do. Its Sunday. Kick back and enjoy!

Have a pizza with dollops of olive oil. Some spaghetti and meat balls.

Or best of all, whisk up for yourself a spanish omelette ! Really tasty this season.

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Old 28th June 2015, 17:44   #321
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A bit confused here. Both Yamaha guys were on the same new chassis and tyre combo, yet I'm not sure if there was tyre/grip grief here at all.
Just down to different styles of riding. Like I mentioned earlier Lorenzo relies on corner speed much more than any other rider. He sweeps across corner carrying a lot of speed. Rossi brakes later, carries less corner speed. When there is reduction in edge grip, it affects Lorenzo much more than Rossi.
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Guys any idea when the repeat will be telecast ? Any luck with the qualifying P1 video ?
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Guys any idea when the repeat will be telecast ? Any luck with the qualifying P1 video ?
Race at 2300 today, ten sports.
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Race at 2300 today, ten sports.
I owe you one bro.
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Old 28th June 2015, 20:51   #325
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Frame 1
This is just before they started braking. Rossi ahead. Marc lunges.
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Frame 2
Both on the same position as they line up the bend.
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Frame 3
Marc slightly ahead and has the line. Still no touch!
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Frame 4
Rossi deliberately leaning on Marc while forcing him on the curbs. This was the created touch Marc was talking about.
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Frame 5
Compare Rossi's lean angle to Marc. He didn't even try for the chicane.
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Frame 6
Marc trying to follow the track, Rossi just letting the bike go straight.
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Frame 7
Advantage gained by cutting the chicane. Over 100mts!!
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Well… some win on merit and some by cutting corners. What’s important is winning. Important for Rossi in terms of the championship lead. He needs them bad.
99 will be back on the top step in Sachsenring!
Meanwhile Race direction should grow a pair. If hitting is not allowed then cutting chicanes is also not allowed no matter what.

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Frame 1
This is just before they started braking. Rossi ahead. Marc lunges.


Well… some win on merit and some by cutting corners. What’s important is winning. Important for Rossi in terms of the championship lead. He needs them bad.
99 will be back on the top step in Sachsenring!
Meanwhile Race direction should grow a pair. If hitting is not allowed then cutting chicanes is also not allowed no matter what.

Cheers!
Dude, are you telling people that you more qualified to judge this than the people who already debated this and closed it? If Honda had agreed with you, believe me, they would have appealed the decision. Why are we even trying to do with TV telecasts as opposed to people who have access to varied camera angles including a heli-cam?

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Frame 1
This is ju------snip-------

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Good one. Should go in another thread, official joke thread.

Seriously though, please don't demean what was actually a perceptible threat from marquez with such, er, strange, analysis.
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Thanks for the fine forensic analysis!

And yes, completely agree - RD should grow a pair! RD should actually reprimand Marquez for trying to be a kamikaze and trying these dirty tricks time and again and threatening other riders' safety and championship. Anyone lesser than Rossi would've crashed and then who would've been responsible?

Just cos Rossi saved what could've been a potentially much worse off situation doesn't exonerate Marc from the daft lunge.

And yes, some win by cutting chicanes, and some LOSE BY 14.576 seconds on the same machinery.

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Dude, are you telling people that you more qualified to judge this than the people who already debated this and closed it? If Honda had agreed with you, believe me, they would have appealed the decision. Why are we even trying to do with TV telecasts as opposed to people who have access to varied camera angles including a heli-cam?
Honda did appeal the decision. Do your homework.
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Since race direction has always lacked a pair between their legs they ruled it a "racing incident"!! Cutting chicanes is a racing incident now? ha ha ha that's a first. Dorna will do anything to influence FIM for the money Rossi brings in.Even if it involves cheating. Sad....

Honda's appeal was not the touch but Rossi cutting the chicane to win.

And yes some lose "1" race by 14.576xxxx seconds and some lose "4" in a row on the same chassis,motor,gearbox,ecu,handlebar,swingarm and even the exhaust.


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Wait, wait. I have an interesting tell-all statistic.
Jorge came in 5 places up from where he started.
Marquez, one.
Rossi?
Zero!
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