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Old 27th May 2017, 18:45   #16
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1:12.178.

What a lap by Kimi! He absolutely nailed it. Can't wait to watch the on-board video.

His last pole was France 2008, almost 9 years ago. Wow! And what a place he chose to do it. Brilliant for Kimi, Brilliant for Ferrari with the 1-2.

Shame about Lewis. If he was in the mix, Q3 would have been an absolute thriller. Great save to keep the car off the barrier when he lost the rear though.

The hot conditions caught everyone out and most cars were sliding around. And maybe that's how it all fell into place for Kimi. He must have felt right at home with that rear end moving around so much.

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Old 27th May 2017, 19:06   #17
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Awesome lap by Kimi! Shame about Hamilton, he was on a really fast lap before the yellow flag, but can't leave it till the end in Monaco where anything can happen. The Red Bulls are looking good and wouldn't be surprised to see one on the podium tomorrow! Should be a good race.
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Awesome lap by Kimi! Shame about Hamilton, he was on a really fast lap before the yellow flag, but can't leave it till the end in Monaco where anything can happen. The Red Bulls are looking good and wouldn't be surprised to see one on the podium tomorrow! Should be a good race.
It wasn't a particularly fast lap to be honest. He was 3/10ths down on the fastest time.
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It wasn't a particularly fast lap to be honest. He was 3/10ths down on the fastest time.
What I meant to say was it was much faster than what he had put up earlier and would have easily seen him through to Q3, which is what he was trying to do anyway.
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What I meant to say was it was much faster than what he had put up earlier and would have easily seen him through to Q3, which is what he was trying to do anyway.
Yea considering the circumstances I guess he would probably have qualified for q3
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My wife was asking after Raikonnen set the fastest time and they kept saying his name,'how come it's a name I haven't heard before '.


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I think Merc got the tyre warming procedure all wrong. Hamilton and Bottas were doing one extra lap at 1:18 - 1:21 sec pace before going for the all out lap. In Q3, Bottas ditched the extra lap and voila, he is right behind the Ferrari and almost got the pole position. Of course the quali engine mode of Merc would have also played a role. But I have never seen Hamilton struggle this bad for traction, has to be the tyre warming procedure. He almost crashed twice in Q2, those were some awesome saves.

Vettel had a scrappy last lap in Q3 to be honest, if he had really hooked a clean lap, we would had lapped in 1:11:9xx.

Would have, could have, what ever, but that was some lap from Kimi. The commitment near the swimming pool, man, I thought he lost it there. I'm so happy for him, hoping for a Ferrari 1-2, victory for Kimi, of course.

Kimi became a father for the second time, daughter do bring luck for their dad it seems, ask Roger Federer, Cal Crutchlow et al. Hope to add Kimi to that list as well, go Kimi .

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Here is that lap.


And here is the highlights from qualifying:


Don't know whats with Monaco and old fellas. Schumi also got P1 in his final season with Mercedes at Monaco but started sixth owing to a penalty from the previous race. Maybe the car takes a step back and the driver' role comes into play more than in other tracks.

PS: I couldn't have asked for a better Saturday sporting wise with Arsenal winning the cup yesterday. Hope its a really boring race today with the grid taking the flag as it started. Kimi, please do make a good start!

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Iceman on pole again.
Long time... no see...

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Looks good for tomorrow, considering Kimi's past record with Ferrari poles.

Here's the results for quali.

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After the penalties are applied, the grid looks like this so far.

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It's a shame that Lewis could not go through to Q3.
He was not looking particularly impressive till the McLaren accident happened in any case.

There seems to be no end to the PU woes for Honda.
They have admitted that their MGU-H is lasting an average 2 race weekends so far.
The ceramic coated bearings are rumored to be the source of trouble.
People who thought that the big problem for Honda was the token system and imagined that they had a much better engine running on a dyno that they would keep developing until this year have been disappointed. The only easy conclusion is the one that has been already stated by Honda's senior staff since 2015, that they underestimated the technical expertise required for competing in this new era of Formula1 PU wars.
Performance wise the ICE has been the biggest challenge, particularly the combustion side while on the other hand it is the integrated Turbocharger-MGU-H which has been responsible for 90% of the reliability issues Honda have faced.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...-races-911390/

On the other hand McLaren chassis does seem pretty well sorted this year, unlike last year's car. It certainly seems on much less of a knife-edge than the Mercedes for example. I certainly think that Honda do deserve some credit for lowing COG, lowering weight etc which has almost certainly helped. Doesn’t absolve them from the fact that they've come up a long way short on the two most important things - power and reliability.
If the next Honda ICE upgrade (rumored to be in doubt already) delivers the expected performance improvements and is reliable, then the season will change drastically for McLaren.

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Dramatic second half with lots of crashes! Glad to see Wehrlein was okay after that bizzare accident with Button.

Great win for Vettel, finally opens up a sizeable gap from Lewis in the Driver's Championship; but there's still a long way to go and Lewis could easily claw his way back. But the Ferrari is looking mighty strong!

It remains up for debate whether the Ferrari pitstops were manipulated to give Vettel the lead.
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A typical Monaco GP.

Well done Ferrari. Really happy for the team. What a way to claim Monaco than a 1-2. Took a very long time.

But I would have been happier with Kimi getting P1, he looked really dejected after taking the flag. :( Didn't even drink his Champagne.

Staying out turned out to be a better choice compared to taking an early stop. Traffic didn't help Kimi at all and he also struggled a bit with his speed after pulling away at first.

I guess these new cars are a bit too wide for Monaco. Didn't see a pass at all. All 50/50 chances ended up with cars being taken out. And others didn't try at all.
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The season is a breath of fresh air. Had almost stopped watching F1 with the Mercedes domination. Ferrari seems to be back and has made the season all the more interesting.

Glad Wehrlein was alright after his crash. What were the stewards smoking? The race should have been red flagged. It took far too long to get Wehrlein out of the car because of cars on track. Nothing is more important than life.

Kimi seemed very upset after the race. Was a worthwhile second, got a big magnum of champagne and also a peck from a beautiful princess. 😂
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Kimi seemed very upset after the race. Was a worthwhile second, got a big magnum of champagne and also a peck from a beautiful princess. 😂
He didn't get the win, but at least he got the girl

He was obviously very disappointed. Who wouldn't, when a win was taken away by your own team!
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Cheeky Lewis does't miss a trick trying to recreate the situation in the rival camp that existed in his garage not so long ago!

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...on-911872/?s=1

From an overtaking point of view the race was pretty boring except for the il advised moves by Button and later by Perez. However the strategy was fascinating to see especially with the top three teams.

As much as I would have loved Raikkonen take the win, I do not believe that Ferrari stiffed Raikkonen out of a win. After Raikkonen pitted Vettel drove few of the fastest laps almost a second or two faster than what he was doing so far. From qualifying too it was evident that the Ferrari had was capable of being much faster than 1:16s. That was where Raikkonen lost the plot in my books. We saw that Max Verstappen also suffered the same fate. Riccardo spotted a similar opportunity and exploited it to the hilt. Fantastic driver though he is, I feel sometimes Raikkonen is too pure a driver doing only one thing and that is driving. He often leaves the thinking of other aspects to people in the respective departments of the team. We often see it otherwise in drivers like Hamilton and Vettel who more often than not question team calls during the race weekend that they are not convinced in. In the recent past we see that champions tend to be drivers who have this capability.

There was also no reason why Raikkonen could not push Vettel and maintain a gap closer than the few seconds that they eventually finished with. Perhaps he fell in with the team thinking and saw no reason to compromise the power unit for the next races but by doing so he would have made a point.

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A Ferrari 1-2 at Monaco.

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2017 is definitely been a breath of fresh air for Formula1 fans.

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Vettel seemed to be over the moon with this race win.

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Maybe due to his lead over Hamilton.

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But not everyone was as happy as Seb was on the podium.

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Kimi seem to be upset, probably more with himself than the team.

The second half accidents kept the race interesting, strategy wise.
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Here's Jenson taking a good look at the underside aerodynamics of the Sauber of Pascal.

Race results:

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