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Old 15th September 2008, 08:04   #2986
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That is where Hamilton goes wrong, F1 race is not a free for all race, the drivers needs to abide by the FIA rules and regulations, needs to show some courtesy to fellow drivers and also have some common-sense!
Apparently, the FIA doesn't seem to have a problem with his style of racing. If he is indeed that dangerous, the FIA isn't taking any action except just docking his points. They've never said anything. If the other drivers find him that dangerous, why don't they appeal for a ban on him?
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Plain aggression wouldn't lead you anywhere!

This was Hammy's 2nd season, I thought he would have learnt some lessons after his 1st season, but sadly no!
As far as I can see, he lost the championship by just one point in his first season and is leading the Championship his year. Take the aggression out of Hamilton and all you'll lose is a future F1 great. Infact, Kimi Raikkonen could learn a lesson or two about aggressive driving from Hamilton. Of late he's only crashing out whenever he's tried to be aggressive.

As far as team Ferrari are concerned, despite being 20 points off, Kimi still wants to have a go at the championship and not be No. 2 to Massa.
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As far as team Ferrari are concerned, despite being 20 points off, Kimi still wants to have a go at the championship and not be No. 2 to Massa.
NOw this one is wierd.
As Massa has a best chance, Ferrari should support Massa's challange.
There is nothing outrightly wrong in Kimi trying to be champion, but at some stage Team is bigger than himself. IMHO he should be supporting Massa's challange now.

& his competitive spirit displaaying comments on racing for all or nothing @ spa... sounds good, but there is something called constructors standings also. did he forget that?
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Old 15th September 2008, 10:14   #2988
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Well I believe the stewards or any body in the FIA wont take any action right now but these things will show or turn up sometime in the situation where in they will just wont show any courtesy and that time the decision will be really harsh!
I am pretty sure the hearing on 22nd Sept will not be in favor of him.
I think you can be aggressive in making the move while overtaking but not push off fellow drivers !! On day he will see his fate if there is a major accident or something like that happens (then for what do we have the driver's code of conduct and things like that)
I am completely against such a badly behaved driver for a team like Mclaren.
Ron Dennis is a perfectionist he doesn't brag about things, looks like Hamilton is speaking what the entire team had spoken all these years
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I was so happy to see Vettel up there on the podium - a cheerful, young, articulate & extremely popular guy, he deserved the win. That guy has talent & will definitely go places
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I think Hamilton should be penalized for dangerous driving on-track in these conditions.
+1; pushing Glock onto the grass, then almost taking Alonso out & then bumping Webber. What next LOL. The guy is just way too aggressive for his own good I think..........
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Remember the kind of accidents Niki Lauda had a habit of getting into? Hamilton in Monza looked like an accident waiting to happen. At those unearthly speeds, it takes so little for things to go wrong. I just hope he sees sense before its too late.
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Where was Lewis in a stronger car. Now may the real 'Rain Master' please stand up? Oh it's Vettel and he did it in an average car. Now that's what i call a World class historic drive. Three cheers for Vettel.
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+1; pushing Glock onto the grass, then almost taking Alonso out & then bumping Webber. What next LOL. The guy is just way too aggressive for his own good I think..........
Won't be long before he gets a taste of his own medicine. Makes for exciting racing though. Without the overtaking F1 had become a bit sedate of late. Maybe, just maybe Hamilton has started a new trend.
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I think Hamiltons drive in the italian Gp was absolutely awesome. Being Aggressive like that is good. An F1 driver needs to have that kind of Agression.

Yes Hamilton would have won the race if it did still rain. He was storming past traffic when the track was wet. Came 1.5sec behind vettel also. Just goes to show the sheer pace of a driver like him.


You'll are calling him aggressive. Have most of you ferrari fans forgotten Schumi's Dare devil stunts and aggressive drives???? NOw how was that ok.
I dont think Hamiltons even 1/2 as aggressive as schumi was.
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Though I was never fan of Hamilton (of course, I didn't dislike him like Alonso either), his drive yesterday was nothing short of "Amazing".

It was looking as if a high power sports cars making its way through "run-of-the-mill" passenger cars. Simply brilliant! Had it not been his second pit-stop, he would have finished 3-4 places higher in the order. At a point, he was lapping 2 seconds faster than anyone else on the circuit. This is what makes F1 exciting. His overtaking of Kimi, Alonso, Glock and others just within few laps was simply awesome. Though I felt bad, he did make Kimi look quite ordinary.

BTW, Vettel has been brilliant whole season and looks like he is championship material if he lands up in any of big 3 teams.
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I think Hamiltons drive in the italian Gp was absolutely awesome. Being Aggressive like that is good. An F1 driver needs to have that kind of Agression.

Yes Hamilton would have won the race if it did still rain. He was storming past traffic when the track was wet. Came 1.5sec behind vettel also. Just goes to show the sheer pace of a driver like him.


You'll are calling him aggressive. Have most of you ferrari fans forgotten Schumi's Dare devil stunts and aggressive drives???? NOw how was that ok.
I dont think Hamiltons even 1/2 as aggressive as schumi was.
Schumi, his agression is never matched, lets stop comparing Lewis to Schumi.

Schumi was agressive but Hamilton is rash.

Yes i agree hamilton would have won if it rained.... ... the last place.

What was he doing in the qualifying when it was pouring, he managed only 16th.

Everything you do comes around, he's getting it back for all his antics he's been doing.

VETTEL- we surely need to congratulate him for driving an absolute amazing race with cool head over his shoulder. It was picture perfect.

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Schumi was like that ! but Hamilton dont necessarily have to behave like him and more over how could pushing one off the track be justified ?
I suspect the penalty in Belgian GP changed the Hamiton's character all together and this is not good for a world championship material.
Niki lauda: I have never seen his races I guess he raced before I was even born !
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At a point, he was lapping 2 seconds faster than anyone else on the circuit.
So did Mark Webber - he caught up with Hamilton just as Hamilton caught up with the pack ahead of him (Alonso, Hiedfeld, Massa) lapping 2 secs per lap quicker.

Then they all continued in formation - it was only Weber and Massa that even tried to overtake the guy ahead of them, with Weber being pushed wide and Massa going over the chicane.

So was it Hamilton's brilliance or the lack of traffic or quality opponents ahead of him?

He did a brilliant job getting up from 14 to where he ended up, but would he have won? I doubt it.

His antics make one wonder if there was more to last year than Alonso's ego - was it a case of a rookie with a Big Mouth v/s a champ with a Big Head?

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Though I felt bad, he did make Kimi look quite ordinary.
Everyone including Glock made Kimi look ordinary yesterday. IMHO if he were still in McLaren, the silver arrows would also have been 'unreliable' DNFs most of the time - now its Ferrari's turn.

Kimi makes Massa look brilliant. They should let Alonso and his Big Fat Head drive the red car.

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I think Hamiltons drive in the italian Gp was absolutely awesome. Being Aggressive like that is good. An F1 driver needs to have that kind of Agression.

Yes Hamilton would have won the race if it did still rain. He was storming past traffic when the track was wet. Came 1.5sec behind vettel also. Just goes to show the sheer pace of a driver like him.


You'll are calling him aggressive. Have most of you ferrari fans forgotten Schumi's Dare devil stunts and aggressive drives???? NOw how was that ok.
I dont think Hamiltons even 1/2 as aggressive as schumi was.
A big Cheers to Vettel on his victory! cheers:

Hamilton would have won...?

And 1.5 Secs behind Vettel...?
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So did Mark Webber - he caught up with Hamilton just as Hamilton caught up with the pack ahead of him (Alonso, Hiedfeld, Massa) lapping 2 secs per lap quicker.

Then they all continued in formation - it was only Weber and Massa that even tried to overtake the guy ahead of them, with Weber being pushed wide and Massa going over the chicane.

So was it Hamilton's brilliance or the lack of traffic or quality opponents ahead of him?
Webber caught up with him after second pit stop when his pace dropped dramatically.

But in full wet, he was awesome. He overtook Alonso, Kimi, Glock (and few others which I don't remember) with absolute ease making them look pedestrian. Ad, it sure was worthy opposition.

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His antics make one wonder if there was more to last year than Alonso's ego - was it a case of a rookie with a Big Mouth v/s a champ with a Big Head?
Most likely that is the case. However, this guy has talent, just like Alonso. I don't like Alonso a bit, but he is an exceptional driver. Alonso in red vs. Hamilton in silver would be most exciting dual to watch for. I was hoping that Kimi would do that, but he is not going anywhere at the moment, except exhibiting flashes of genius. (BTW, Massa wasn't exactly Mr. Nice Guy in yesterday's race, which he normally is. Good for him!)
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So who is going to S'pore to watch the first ever F1 Night race?

I know Suman is going, anyone else from T-BHP?
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