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Old 17th September 2008, 09:05   #3046
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For those of you who didn't watch Chequered Flag on Star Sports fully after the race, I have some wonderful news. Star Sports is going to telecast Practice 2 on Friday & Practice 3 on Saturday live.

Steve Slater also previewed the Singapore GP. It seems that the organizers have sold out each capsule of the Singapore Flyer at SGD 10,000 for the GP. These Singapore guys sure do know how to make money.

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A friend of mine recently got membership of the Singapore Cricket club. He thought he had a prime viewing spot but alas, members have been banned as the F1+ govt have taken the access rights for race day
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Hi, i am sorry, it should read "bought just the walkabout tickets". I purchased it long time back. Last week travel agent told me that he has got 10 tickets for bay grandstand costing Rs.10800 each. I dont know whether they are for three days or just for the race day. If u are interested, i shall check with the agent.
Lookout for tickets in ebay....

yesterday got the walkabouts for sunday. SG$250 for a pair. a colleague is unsure to go so has promised if he doesnt got he will pass them to me at that price. So halfway done now. hope he cancels

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OT, an interesting article on Hamilton....

Lewis Hamilton: Astounding Or Atrocious | Bleacher Report



When Lewis Hamilton lost the World Championship in his rookie season by one point, I was one of the many who admired the rookie’s talents. When the 2008 season began with Lewis’ victory at Melbourne, I personally thought that it was THE best way for a driver to start his championship bid after a disappointing first year.

However, as the season progressed, I have slowly switched sides, and recently have become a fan of Lewis Hamilton Sucks. I am sure that I am not the only one to share this view of the Briton, and I began pondering how anyone can turn their back on an amazing driver such as Hamilton.

Although many claim that the hatred against Hamilton is purely based on his African American roots, many also argue that they are rather tired of his antics. For me, personally, the latter is very valid.

While Robert Kubica, in a recent interview, declared that all drivers respect one another, Hamilton made this comment when asked about the Kimi Raikkonen’s driving skills at Spa: “That’s the way he drives. If you don’t have the balls to brake late, that’s your problem…” This statement wouldn’t have enraged many Ferrari and Raikkonen tifosis if Hamilton had only stopped speaking after that. However, he took the liberty to comment on Felipe Massa’s position in the championship: “Massa is the one who has to work damn hard to keep up with me.”

In a previous interview, he has openly talked about his superiority over all the other drivers from the past and the present: "I'm no No 2, whoever you put me next to - even Michael Schumacher." Although I agree that every driver should consider himself second to none, blatantly claiming supremacy over a legend such as Michael Schumacher is rather primitive.

Even though one can state that Schumacher was also arrogant, and that arrogance is required to become a champion in this sport, Schumacher has seldom shown his arrogance off the track. He might have driven reckless, he might have gotten into fights with David Coulthard over racing incidents, and he even might have even purposefully blocked the Rascasse hairpin in Monaco in 2006 to secure pole position; but no one has ever called that man arrogant, because he did what a racing driver is ought to do: drive, fight and win at any cost.

Hamilton does have something in common with Schumacher, as he will also do anything to win. He will drive his heart out as he declared in an interview: “I'm a racer, I do the best job I can on the track and I race my heart off.” That statement would have been acceptable if he had only decided to stop there; however, he continued on to say that “There’s no-one that puts more heart into it than me.”

My question would be this: why would people spend millions purchasing Formula One teams, and hire drivers who don’t want to put their ‘hearts’ into this sport or who don’t want to win the World Championship?”

Everybody agrees that Hamilton is a good driver, but he is also not a perfect driver. Whether in racing or in life, everybody makes mistakes; the highlight of Hamilton’s faux pas came in Canada when he disregarded the red light at the end of the pit lane, and ended Raikkonen’s race.

During the Thursday press conference at France, Anne Giuntini from L’Equipe asked Lewis the following question: “Sorry to disturb you, Lewis, but is it what you call a small incident involving Kimi being a victim? Is it smaller than a mistake that would annoy only you?” Instead of providing a straightforward answer, Hamilton reflected with this rhetoric: “That’s what I just said, didn’t I?”

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that a little “arrogant?” Kimi made a similar mistake in Monaco when he ran into the back of Adrian Sutil, but he had the “balls” to openly confess to the heart stricken Force India driver.

Hamilton’s self proclaimed superiority over the other drivers goes deeper when he blatantly admitted that he has a more athletic than most drivers. At the Thursday press conference in Britain, Hamilton was asked the following: “At the Reebok launch the other day you were quoted as saying you thought you were fitter than Jenson. Is that the case?” Hamilton’s response was obvious: “I’ve noticed that Jenson has a bit of a belly and so… I’m only joking! I was just trying to be positive.” I think anyone can agree that one can be positive about themselves without putting anyone else down. When Jensen Button threw down the gauntlet and invited Lewis to a triathlon, Lewis initially agreed only to back down a while later due to concerns shown by his management.

I am completely aware of the fact that there are people who are ready to say that I am reading between the lines here, so here is a final quote from the omnipotent Hamilton himself from a TV interview, where he was questioned about his feelings from Turn One in Hungary, where he and Heikki Kovalainen lost their first and second place on the grid, respectively: “Hungary was a disappointing first corner for me. As you know, when I’m racing, generally no one overtakes me. And if they do, it’s only on the inside, and that’s a big gift. When I got overtaken on the outside, that’s something I swear would never happen again.” I don’t think it can get any clearer than that.

Hamilton: I am the best.

In my opinion, Hamilton has to realize that he indeed is a human being and not a demigod as he thinks he is. When a manufacturer such as McLaren provides a car such as the MP4-23, a driver has to be able to extract 100 percent from the car, and provide results. There is no surprise that Lewis is winning Grands Prix with that car; however, what’s more surprising is the fact Fenando Alonso was able to finish fourth in the Italian Grand Prix after starting eighth on the grid with an inferior Renault.

What’s truly mind-blowing is the fact that Sebastian Vettel was able to produce a victorious drive in the treacherous conditions in a Scuderia Toro Rosso’s STR4. What was even more astonishing was that Vettel was reluctant to make any correlations between himself and Schumacher:

However, Vettel’s record breaking achievement seems to be getting overshadowed by the British press, who simply cannot stop praising Hamilton. I have also noticed that the majority of Lewis Hamilton’s fans are British, and there is something fundamentally wrong if the majority of your fans are of the same nationality as you; I mean, does anyone here remember Sanjaya Malakar?
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Very very well put Tifosi, i totally second you on that. Hamilton just needs to concentrate on the next 4 races and let his driving do the talking.
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Nice post Tifosi!

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overshadowed by the British press, who simply cannot stop praising Hamilton.
Very true. Even Steve Slater makes me feel like throwing up (all over him that is) with his constant Hamilton-feet-licking throughout each race
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Read somewhere about ALONSO moving to BMW. Its a 3 year deal. If this is true then BMW could seriously contend for the championship in 09'.
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It would be good for the sport if Alonso were to move to BMW. But nothing has been confirmed yet.

Formula One news: BMW to announce drivers at end of season - GPUpdate.net Formula One

The fringe teams would be looking to catch up with the Big 2 with major technical changes coming into effect next year. Kubica is coming into his own, but Alonso can give Team BMW an edge to make the final leap.
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Very interesting article Tifosi. He thinks too much of himself. He started his career with one of the best teams in Formula1. May be thats the reason he talks too much. If he were to come from Super Aguri or Torro Rosso, by the time he would have had reached Mclaren, he would have been a level headed person.
But then there is also an exception, Alonso!!


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Read somewhere about ALONSO moving to BMW. Its a 3 year deal. If this is true then BMW could seriously contend for the championship in 09'.

So whom will you support? Mclaren? BMW?
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Tifosi : the I am just reading the posts and comments in the website and it is just so hilarious and entertaining, its full of slang and anyone wanna learn them kind of type


And F50 talking of exception I believe Alonso was made to talk like that last year just imagine with guy like lewis beside you as a team mate will definitely make you whine, I dont see him talking much this season other than his stupid ferrari expectation, which I think is hyped by the media given the circumstances of kimi's poor times.

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A very good write up there Tifosi

Put this big mouth in a Super Aguri or a Honda for a season, that would shut him up!

With one of the best car on the grid and being the Team's Number 1 driver from the start all he could secure is only a 1 point lead over Massa in the WDC!

Read his recent article on Eurosport where he wants to be called the "Moral Champion".

Hamilton the 'moral champion' - Yahoo! Eurosport UK

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Lewis Hamilton has stated his belief that he "morally deserves" to win the 2008 World Championship, as F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone backs the British star to lift the laurels at season's end.

Hamilton now holds just a slender one-point advantage over Ferrari rival Felipe Massa following the Italian Grand Prix at the weekend, pending his appeal against a 25-second penalty at the previous meeting at Spa-Francorchamps.

In the wake of criticism from a number of his rivals over what they deemed to be his robust driving standards at Monza, he has vowed to push harder than ever over the final four races of the campaign.
"I'm a fighting force," the 23-year-old said. "I'll continue to prove that there's nothing that can put me off or bring me down.

"I've showed I'm more mature this year. I'm focusing on keeping myself in shape and not letting anything distract me. I am not messing around doing stupid things, just keeping myself nice and quiet and doing everything right.

"Morally, I think I deserve the title and I'll do everything in my power to win it. There are four races left and they are all long hauls which I love. I'll be ready."

The Stevenage-born ace also insisted that he was unfazed by the FIA International Court of Appeal hearing into his Belgian GP chicane-cutting penalty in France on Monday.

Should he and McLaren-Mercedes win the appeal, Hamilton's lead over Massa would be stretched out to a more comfortable seven points with 40 remaining up for grabs.

"I'm not thinking about Paris," he claimed. "It won't be a distraction. I feel like I won the race in Belgium, so I've not even bothered to think about it.
"What has happened has happened and I'll move on whatever the result, then I'll focus on getting more points in the next races."

The eight-times grand prix winner has received the backing of the sport's supremo Ecclestone as the battle for the crown reaches fever pitch over the next few weeks.

"I think the odds slightly favour Hamilton now," the 77-year-old told the Daily Mirror.

"I've said since the start of the season Massa would do it for Ferrari, but looking at what Hamilton is doing in all areas generally, he's the one who is more likely to win it now."

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Ranjith, very strange you noticed the comments at the end of the article, rather than the article itself, which was all facts and truths about the greatest British F1 driver ever!
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Thats a very interesting article tifosi and I quite agree with all that is put down. I agree that Hammy is one of the fine drivers to have come up in recent times but I guess the amount of success he got in his debut season has gone to his head. I like his attitude of ruthlessness on the track, thats what you need to be a fighter for the Championship, but his off track antics dont go down well with me. Thats the biggest difference between him and Schumi. Schumi was a 7 time champion but I never heard him comparing himself to Senna or saying he was better.

I have never seen Schumi arrogant off track. I even remember Japan 06 when he retired from the lead. He went and hugged each of his mechanics instead of sulking and going away into his garage.

Anyways this arguement goes on and on.
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With one of the best car on the grid and being the Team's Number 1 driver from the start all he could secure is only a 1 point lead over Massa in the WDC!
The fact is he is still in the lead. 1 point or 50, it does not matter. Remember, Kimi won the championship by just one point last year. Did that matter to any Ferrari fan? I know it didn't.
It can also be argued that even though Lewis was docked of points and places on the starting grid, he's still leading.
It can also be interpretted as, "Are Ferrari cars and their drivers so bad that they are trailing a (in Tifosi language) moron?"
People are entitled to their opinions. There will always be pro and anti Hamilton articles all over the web.
I suggest you listen to what the moderator said earlier and keep this to a race prediction and result discussion thread rather than turn it into a Hamilton bashing thread.
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The fact is he is still in the lead. 1 point or 50, it does not matter. Remember, Kimi won the championship by just one point last year. Did that matter to any Ferrari fan? I know it didn't.
It can also be argued that even though Lewis was docked of points and places on the starting grid, he's still leading.
It can also be interpretted as, "Are Ferrari cars and their drivers so bad that they are trailing a (in Tifosi language) moron?"
People are entitled to their opinions. There will always be pro and anti Hamilton articles all over the web.
I suggest you listen to what the moderator said earlier and keep this to a race prediction and result discussion thread rather than turn it into a Hamilton bashing thread.
When you are not fighting your own team mate on the grid it always means a upper hand fighting for the championship! I was not being specific about who would run away with the WDC end of the season, but the point was the difference he could create with all the support he has right now!

I seem to be offtopic again to respond to your quote!

Back to predictions...
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