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Old 14th October 2008, 16:14   #3346
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If I can say so that Hammy boy is seeing history unfold again during the last few races of the championship and hence his desperate and dangerous moves in desperate times which are proving quite dangerous to fellow drivers to say the least.
"Cry Baby" Alonso would be feasting over his new found luck much to Hammy boy's distaste but of course i will not deny the fact that he drove a very well controlled race in Fuji and indeed passed on a statement that he is going to provide all the support to Massa for him to win the race . Now the remaining two races are going to be too dramatic to say the least with so much @ stake.
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It is rather unfortunate to see this kind of behaviour. Drivers fail to understand that there are rules and regulations in place which can and will be imposed.

At the recently concluded races in Chennai we had to strip a driver off all his points resulting in him losing the championship. Pretty sad state of affairs.

With the way things are, they might have to replace Formula 1 with Demolition Derby in the near future.

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Racing is racing. Whether to prove a point, win a championship or anything else. Many others have made the same mistake, but I don't remember a penalty being handed out on previous occasion.
Well, as someone mentioned, the stewards are a little more "trigger-happy" these days, perhaps.

Now, if we go back a few years, can you recall anyone who was as aggressive & obnoxious in his driving style as Hamilton is? I can't think of anyone other than (maybe) MS but lets not forget that MS had a few under his belt by then - and he didn't push everyone off the track. His moves were pretty much aimed at his championship rivals.

Compare that to Hamburger & you'll realize what I'm saying. Hell, he almost took Heiki out in that move as well. He loses all reason & forgets that there are other people on the track. To me, that's not just racing. That's unnecessary aggression bordering on stupid & dangerous. Its more like the Demolition Derby & not really F1.

Just my opinion of course.

EDIT: Just saw Farhan's comment about the Demolition Derby - looks like we posted at the same time

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Ramilton's move on Webber & Glock during the Italian GP was totally unfair for sure!

Probably if it was Ramilton's move on Massa/Kimi/Kubica it makes sense. But why Webber/Glock!?

Thats pure arrogance IMO!

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While we speculate, things aren't exactly rosy at McLaren and Ferrari.
Apart from the world press slamming Lewis and Massa for showing lack of maturity, McLaren Mercedes bosses Dennis and Haug have had a go at their star driver.
"Lewis can sometimes be a bit too fiery" says Nobert Haug. Ron Dennis says, "It would have been nice if Lewis had been a little bit more prudent in the first corner."
The Italian press is going for Kimi's head. They want Alonso at the wheel. Ferrari boss Luca di Montezemolo has called the Finn a striker in search of his lost goals, but Kimi seems more like a mechanic who has lost the operating instructions to his car. He now has two more races to help Massa and show that he still has the desire. If this run continues, Ferrari must make the call to Alonso.
Read about it here: Italian Press and Kimi and Lewis and Massa
Kubica must be grinning from ear to ear.
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I even hear Kubica might be heading to Ferrari or McLaren in a season or two, going by the prowess he has shown this year. This was during the commentary by Steve Slater (did I get his name right?) and Karun Chandok at Fuji.
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It's all good.
F1 circus is getting all exciting to watch on and off the track.

If not for this action packed season, many would've stopped watching F1. Many would've termed it to be too boring.
So I think, whatever is happening is happening for good!
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I even hear Kubica might be heading to Ferrari or McLaren in a season or two, going by the prowess he has shown this year. This was during the commentary by Steve Slater (did I get his name right?) and Karun Chandok at Fuji.
Too many people allegedly heading towards Ferrari in future - Alonso, Kubica, Vettel.

I think Kimi better pull up his socks soon since they seem to have no dearth of good drivers lining up. And Massa - he should be stupid to let this one slip, because he may not have many more shots in a Ferrari.

As for McLaren, I doubt if any of these guys would want to play second fiddle to the Golden Gob.
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Too many people allegedly heading towards Ferrari in future - Alonso, Kubica, Vettel.

I think Kimi better pull up his socks soon since they seem to have no dearth of good drivers lining up. And Massa - he should be stupid to let this one slip, because he may not have many more shots in a Ferrari.
Bingo, this is by far Massa's best chance. I dont think Kimi would be so much off-color next season and would once again be the No.1 at Ferrari.

BTW, is Karun Chandok or Narain getting a shot at F1 anytime in the near future? Is Mr. Mallya pondering over this?

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Chandhok might get a shot at F1 in the 2010 season, as Mallya has said before. Plus, if he does well in GP2 next season, he might get a drive with either of the Red Bull backed teams. Losing the unibrow might help his prospects, methinks
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Today,IMO, Ferrari needs a God of a driver and both Massa and Kimi don't stand a chance to what Schumi used to be. Kimi has dropped from a champion to #4.Massa is struggling.

If there is someone(in a ferrari) who can seriously threaten Hamilton would be last year's Ravana, *drum roll* Fernando "Dark Knight" Alonso.
While I detested him for obvious reasons, I remember him overtaking Massa in one race,last year.
It was almost like a Cheetah chasing a deer . Massa succumbed and how.
Alonso can do this on Hamilton only in a Ferrari. Even an MP4-24 wouldn't cut it.
Think about it, Alonso was the guy who made Schumi in a Ferrari retire. In a red car, he would be running circles around the grid on a good day!
It would just be a tifosi's dream come true.
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While we speculate, things aren't exactly rosy at McLaren and Ferrari.
Apart from the world press slamming Lewis and Massa for showing lack of maturity, McLaren Mercedes bosses Dennis and Haug have had a go at their star driver.
"Lewis can sometimes be a bit too fiery" says Nobert Haug. Ron Dennis says, "It would have been nice if Lewis had been a little bit more prudent in the first corner."
The Italian press is going for Kimi's head. They want Alonso at the wheel. Ferrari boss Luca di Montezemolo has called the Finn a striker in search of his lost goals, but Kimi seems more like a mechanic who has lost the operating instructions to his car. He now has two more races to help Massa and show that he still has the desire. If this run continues, Ferrari must make the call to Alonso.
Read about it here: Italian Press and Kimi and Lewis and Massa
Kubica must be grinning from ear to ear.
And both source from a British press!

They still feel the heat of their wonder kid losing to Kimi in 2007!

There is Ron's word for Hamilton to being Prudent! Both need a grip on that word!

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I think he roots for Damon Hill. Hamilton who? Alonso also?
Damon Hill yea back in his days. Dont like hamilton that much but as long as he brings the title to Mclaren thats good. Was always a fan of alonso. Still am.

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And both source from a British press!

They still feel the heat of their wonder kid losing to Kimi in 2007!

There is Ron's word for Hamilton to being Prudent! Both need a grip on that word!
Well, apart from a couple of Indian ones, English is the only language I speak and understand. So I guess, I have to go by what the British press says. We talk about Hammy being a loud mouth - I agree. Who knows what the others are saying in their respective languages? For all we know each may have said that he is the greatest of all time or worse things.
Back in 2001, I met a Finn chap who was of the impression that Mika Hakkinen is the greatest of all time.
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Back in 2001, I met a Finn chap who was of the impression that Mika Hakkinen is the greatest of all time.
And back in 2002 I wore a Ferrari T and Hat and sat amidst a bunch of loud Finns who had travelled all the way to Sepang only to shout "Miiiiiiiiiikkka Hakiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinen!"

The Finn had a fast, totally untouchable car for a couple of years so he flew. His car wasnt so fast that year, and he didnt fly.
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