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Old 8th March 2005, 14:07   #16
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Ok first things first, it was trully great achievement winning in Benetton and that car was really difficult to drive.

In 1996 he enters Ferrari. What was Ferrari at that time?
Ferrari wins following races -

1994 - Gerhard Berger (1 win)
1995 - Jean Alesi (1 win)
1996* - MS (3 wins)
1997* - MS (5 wins)
1998* - MS (5 wins)
1999* - MS/Eddie (5 wins)

And do i need to list about wins in 2000-01-02-03-04 ?

Ferrari were just able to win only 1 race and when MS came it started to improve.
So the position they are in right now its all because of Michael Schumacher, Ross Brawn. Jean Todt.
So, if they are winning its all because of their hardwork.
They have EARNED the NO. 1 STATUS LET THEM ENJOY IT.
what about MONEY ? dont u think they pumped in millions more ?
u think jean todt, schumi, ross brawn, rory byrne, paulo martinelli wud have wud have been any good if they had all signed for sauber ?
ferrari reassesed their F1 project.. and did what they had to win at F1

schumi himself had said ( on a lighter note ) that ferrari's factory looked like his friends go kart factory when he 1st saw it
how do u expect berger n alesi to win championships ?

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Actually, as I remember it, the Benetton cars should have been easier to drive than today's F1 cars. Don't forget they had virtually unrestricted electronics on them (they even had active suspension) plus they had wider, full slick racing tyres that would have made it easier to put the power down than today's grooved-slicks. Plus, the engines didn't produce quite as much power as the 900 odd bhp that the top teams are managing today, so IMHO those cars were probably easier to push to the limit than today's F1 cars.
i was talking about the benetton in particular..its handlign characteristics.. it was very nervous & twitchy
the 1st few laps alesi did in 1996 ( in schumi's benetton ) he had set a pretty quick time and was pretty kicked for setting a time not far off schumi's
he then realised it wud be a totally different ball game to be on the limit.. in that car for an entire race distance and said hats off to schumi for being able to do that

and ure forgetting traction control, semi automatic gear boxes and the 'electronic revolution' that F1 is today..
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what about MONEY ? dont u think they pumped in millions more ?
u think jean todt, schumi, ross brawn, rory byrne, paulo martinelli wud have wud have been any good if they had all signed for sauber ?
ferrari reassesed their F1 project.. and did what they had to win at F1
Thats an obvious thing that money was put in a bit more otherwise it would have been a bit more difficult.
The thing lacking may be was money in hands of sensibile people who will get Ferrari back to winning ways.
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and ure forgetting traction control, semi automatic gear boxes and the 'electronic revolution' that F1 is today..
Actually. there was a section of the media at the time that widely believed Benetton WAS using some form of illegal "traction control device" which made their cars that much quicker out of the corners than all their competitors. Of course this was vehemently denied by Ross Brawn and co., well anyway...that's why I feel that the Benettons were probably easier to drive!
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Actually. there was a section of the media at the time that widely believed Benetton WAS using some form of illegal "traction control device" which made their cars that much quicker out of the corners than all their competitors. Of course this was vehemently denied by Ross Brawn and co., well anyway...that's why I feel that the Benettons were probably easier to drive!
hehe.. yeah
think that was just speculation.. much the same as when renault had the best launch control in 2003 & 2004

but i agree with ppl who say that it came at a price..
this yr they have improved car performance greatly and they didnt look super quick off the line..
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With hind sight, we now know that Benetton did, in fact, have an illegal traction control device in their cars that won the championship twice...it was called Michael Schumacher!
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