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Old 19th December 2008, 11:24   #91
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Nice to know that many constructors have finished their rounds of testing. Algarve test was a good feedback for Ferrari and Mclaren.
Toyota has successfully completed a test drive with a new driver.
Even after the financial crisis and hard times, teams are slowly moving up with their jobs.

Good to know about Tata being a sponsor in Ferrari. An Indian brand on one of the most worshipped names in F1. Great!

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Tata sells lots of products globally. They even have manufacturing/assembly facilities in countries outside India like Korea, South africa etc.. Their commercial vehicles (especially after the acquisition of Daewoo trucks) are a huge success in whole of Africa, many asian, middle east and european countries.
Tata Safari, Sumo grande, Xenon, Indica etc.. have european/international spec models and they are respected and recieved well in many countries too.
And to say that they have to help Indian motorsports before they advertise on international arena is plane jane ridiculous!
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You guys arguing above do realize that it's not just Tata Motors, but the whole Tata Group which will be sponsoring Ferrari. And they all happen to have the same logo as well.

So it's more of a brand building exercise for all their products globally, starting from steel, tea, salt, software etc. and going all the way to cars.

What do you think Mubadala has to gain by sponsoring Ferrari. Or for that matter companies like RBS, Vodafone, ING etc. who have nothing to do with cars or motorsport.

Formula 1 (unfortunately I'd say) is the most elite and expensive form of motor racing on the planet right now, and is the second most watched sport after soccer, so promoting your brand there doesn't hurt.
Mubadala is not sponsoring, its also a investment firm which has stake in Ferrari. ING, Vodafone, RBS have brand presence everywhere they are just making it even more rich by associating themselves with such F1 team. Such is not the case with TATA.
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A Few changes in the Ferrari team for season 2009 being released by Stephano.

''The role of chief operations disappears and Mario Almondo has become responsable for the quality of the industrial management (Gestione Industriale).

Massimo Rivola (ex-STR) has been attracted and he will manage the sportive and logistical activities, the regulations (whether or not the team complies with them at all time) and the circuits (Fiorano and Mugello).

Under the guidance of technical director Aldo Costa production and quality checks will flow together.

There will also be changes on the track side: still under the management of Baldisserri: Andrea Stella has become Raikkonen's race engineer whereas Chris Dyer has been appointed as the coordinator of the engineers as well as the testteam.

The responsable ones for the assembly of the car will be Diego Ioverno sided by Mick Ainsley Cowlinshaw (Ex Team Manager of Super Aguri).

We also have a responsable for the KERS project: it's Thierry Baritaud.''

Source: AFCA @ Atlas F1
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Wow! Wow! Wow!
War Of Words. Check: autosport.com - F1 News: Ecclestone hits back at di Montezemolo

Bernie mentions something like; Ferrari always had special considerations in F1, now many of the unanswered questions of injustice gets a new meaning from the Boss itself. Lol!
He also mentions that they had bought Ferrari long back in 2003!

If this gets worse, then expect lots of fireworks in the wide horizon.
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This is a old news which Bernie wants to pick on Luca. It was a deal Bernie & Max made back in 2003 when Ferrari broke ranks to keep F1 alive!

Ferrari has always been offered more money. So has McLaren and Williams just because they came to the party earlier than others.

A very obvious comment trying to break up the FOTA since Luca who heads the FOTA had submitted a proposal on equal shares of F1 revenue. I beleive the main point is that for him to make these remarks it seems that FOTA/Montezemelo has got Bernie rattled. Which I feel is a good thing.

He had not bought Ferrari back, he means to say that he had paid Ferrari since they stayed back in 2003!

More to come I beleive...
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Found this piece of news in today's TOI online version
http://racing.timesofindia.indiatime...ow/3875695.cms

Truly India shining. That too, in the midst of this global recession.
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things to look out fo "09"

Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems
(KERS)
no testing between races
engine last fo 3 races
new aerodynamics
slick tyres

IMO 09 car looks ugly with wider front wings,narrow and tall rear wings.
KERS makes things a bit more bad due to the weight of this thing,and teams are not satisfied with the safety of it,an accident took place involving a mechanic.

Alonso,kimi,vettel,force india these teams and drivers are am looking forward in "09" cheers:

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Are you telling me TATA motors sells producst globally. Exporting to ME for transporting Indian labourers is the only known worthwhile exporting they do. And that isnt going to get any help via this Ferrari tieup.

Why are they not in the Indian motor sports? A official TATA team in National rallying will do a lot of good like pulling in other manufacturers and increasing the viewership manifold.
they thinking of promoting TCS without much fuss...you know sticking onto the front nose of ferrari( i think its the front nose) that way drivers can see it on there rear view mirrors

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Source: The Scuderia.Net Forum

Monday 22 December at 06:28 : Dec.22 (GMM) Bernie Ecclestone's mischievous sense of humour has returned in the latest edition of his personalised annual Christmas card

Last year, the F1 chief executive poked fun at the McLaren-Ferrari spy scandal, depicting a nervous Ron Dennis being handed a gift-wrapped present by former chief designer Mike Coughlan.

And now, despite pushing for Max Mosley to quit amid this year's sex scandal, the FIA president is the butt of Bernie's latest Christmas joke. The cartoon shows Mosley whipping an F1 team member, as his pitwall monitor depicts a woman in fishnet stockings and high heels and Other F1 personnel are seen clutching sore bottoms, the Daily Star newspaper said, while 78-year-old Bernie brandishes bandaids.

The message inside the card reads: "Usual team punishment, just a special for Christmas. Have a happy one. Bernie."Asked if he thinks Mosley will be offended, Ecclestone said: "I don't know. We'll see."

And here it is... and the 2nd picture from last year I guess!
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IMO 09 car looks ugly with wider front wings,narrow and tall rear wings.
Agree with you on that !
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KERS makes things a bit more bad due to the weight of this thing,and teams are not satisfied with the safety of it,an accident took place involving a mechanic.
I think there have been two reported accidents so far - a KERS equipped Red-Bull F1 car caught fire at their factory, & a BMW mechanic was electrocuted & suffered minor injuries during KERS testing (at Jerez ?).

While the technology is fascinating, I'm not sure in these times of tightening purse-strings, KERS & its development (there will be a steep learning-curve for all teams) is the way to go forward into 2009 !

Here's hoping...
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PIC 1: What the hell are you talking about - standard engines!?

PIC 2:
Kimi: what's that?
Stefano: Its a bird..
Felipe: No, its something else...look its landing!!

PIC 3:that says it all
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The teams have discussed a new qualifying format:

all cars on the track with the same amount of fuel with the slowest drivers eliminated after each lap. After 14 laps the six fastest drivers would then fight for pole position, fitting new tyres but still using the same amount of fuel.

Not finalised yet,FIA has asked the teams to do some market research to find out what the public think of it ?
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Not finalised yet,FIA has asked the teams to do some market research to find out what the public think of it ?
Amazing!!
That will bring back lots of action and some real competition in the qualifying. There'll be lots of sparks and fireworks too.
The only question is what about those cars which may get involved in a mishap or 2? What if all the cars get involved in a mishap while qualifying?
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The teams have discussed a new qualifying format:

all cars on the track with the same amount of fuel with the slowest drivers eliminated after each lap. After 14 laps the six fastest drivers would then fight for pole position, fitting new tyres but still using the same amount of fuel.

Not finalised yet,FIA has asked the teams to do some market research to find out what the public think of it ?
We can see a long queue on saturday in front of the FIA to accuse someone of blocking or causing a crash!
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Amazing!!
That will bring back lots of action and some real competition in the qualifying. There'll be lots of sparks and fireworks too.
The only question is what about those cars which may get involved in a mishap or 2? What if all the cars get involved in a mishap while qualifying?
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We can see a long queue on saturday in front of the FIA to accuse someone of blocking or causing a crash!
Well,i think we could see lots of fingers pointing in all direction...he blocked me,he was too slow,he brake test me....

if they are sticking to this it's going to be real of fun...
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New suggestion made by BERNIE ECCLESTONE:

Bernie Ecclestone: My idea is that instead of points we should award medals to the drivers finishing first to third in a race, gold for the winner, silver for the second placed driver and bronze for the driver who comes third.
The title will be awarded to the driver who wins the most gold medals in a season and if there were a tie, the number of silver medals won would be taken into account (and if still tied, it would be decided by bronze medals and so on).

constructors’ championship remains the same.

behind the idea?
BE:
Well, quite simply, it will make Formula One a much more exciting spectacle because it will incentivise drivers to race to win. We should see much more overtaking, drivers will take more chances and they will race each other all the way to the chequered flag
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