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Old 15th April 2009, 15:04   #1
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Starting new thread for Chinese GP discussions.
The breaking news this week is

"Controversial diffuser design deemed legal"
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The International Court of Appeal announced today that the diffusers designs run by Brawn GP, Toyota and Williams are legal and therefore the results from the opening two rounds of the championship are now confirmed.
Lets see if the other teams are ready with their "controversial" designs?

F1 : Controversial diffuser design deemed legal - FIA - F1-Live.com
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Old 15th April 2009, 15:49   #2
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Hurray!!! FIA came good rather than submitting to the pressure.

Lets see how others catch-up, Renault and Ferrari have openly admitted to be working on the double-deckered diffuser.

Go Brawn, rub salt in the wounds.

PS: Ardent Ferrari fan
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Just read the news, quite a blow for the non-D gang.

This weekend's practice will see a lot of teams coming up with their versions of the Double decker diffuser. I'm sure about McLaren and even Renault to an extent.

Ferrari mentioned that they cannot make the diffuser atleast till the Barcelona race as they would need to change the rear end totally but I expect some new aero parts this weekend.

What times the race this weekend?

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Renault will be running the double diffuser this weekend @ the Chinese GP.

Ferrari might bring it by TurkishGP.
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i have a feeling others teams might show up with their new diffuser designs, this weekend.
Would be very interesting
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I guess the Race time is 2:30PM Sunday.
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I guess the Race time is 2:30PM Sunday.
12.30 pm our time, 3 pm local time
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Old 16th April 2009, 12:38   #8
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Woah! Thanks Suman.
Looks like I ll have to start to Bangalore much earlier than planned, on Sunday.
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I read somewhere that some of the teams might opt to use this season as a development year (just like Honda did last year), because they could not adapt their cars to the diffusers used by Brawn, Williams and Toyota. Supposedly the packaging and design of the rear suspension wouldnt allow for the double diffuser, and the cost of redesigning the suspension would be too high.
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Its going to be a race free from any doubts. We can expect some thrilling race and good competition.

I predict the brawns to stay ahead of the pack. Toyota will also hold it's position well. Hope Mclaren can improve it's standings.
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12.30 pm our time, 3 pm local time
Thanks for that Suman

Now that DD diffusors are legal cant wait to see how the other teams use the loop-hole (Pun intended) to their benefit. Expect the non-DDD teams to throw all their resources to it.

I think FIA have, now how do I say it, screwed up big time here.

Go Ferrari, Go Kimi!!
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Alonso saying no diffuser on chinese gp need more time to design.

ferrari diffuser at spanish gp
bmw,mclaren all working on diffusers but going to be late.
redbull is worst hit by this diffuser there, rear wing is more complicated than others so they need really big changes on the car.

weather:
saturday practice=partly cloudy
sunday:race=raining

Kubica saying even with the new diffuser car is not going to be fast there are big problems to the car not just diffuser.

Kubica will try using KERS in practice..if the balance and grip level remains good he will use in race.
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Thanks for that Suman

Now that DD diffusors are legal cant wait to see how the other teams use the loop-hole (Pun intended) to their benefit. Expect the non-DDD teams to throw all their resources to it.

I think FIA have, now how do I say it, screwed up big time here.

Go Ferrari, Go Kimi!!
As i have said in my earlier post - Some teams may not be able to throw all their resources at it. Its not as easy as building a difuser and mounting it on the car. Theres the suspension geometry, aerodynamics - mainly the front wing plus most of the underbody to think about. I think it will be less of a case of - Expect all the non- double diffuser teams to throw their resources and more of a - Who has the finances to throw at trying to develop a diffuser to suit their car.
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As i have said in my earlier post - Some teams may not be able to throw all their resources at it. Its not as easy as building a difuser and mounting it on the car. Theres the suspension geometry, aerodynamics - mainly the front wing plus most of the underbody to think about. I think it will be less of a case of - Expect all the non- double diffuser teams to throw their resources and more of a - Who has the finances to throw at trying to develop a diffuser to suit their car.
Thats exactly what I meant, Ferrari for example will have to redo the entire rear end of the car. It more like a F60-B. And thats whats Stefano Domenicali has hinted recently. Reckon Renault and RBR are also in the same boat.
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F1 teams have a track record of "interpreting" the regulations to their advantage. Rather than accept that the diffuser & rear bodywork regulations are ambiguous, the governing body has instead chosen to penalize the teams that have decided to follow the spirit of the regulations. Last year, Ferrari & BMW had to do away with their movable-floors when the FIA clarified that the regulations had to be followed in both letter, & spirit.

The whole thing is two steps forward, one step back ! The point of the new regulations was to promote more overtaking in the sport, by choosing to accept the double-diffusers, that cause has been done more harm than good. I predict, & hope, Brawn GPs' advantage is very short-lived...

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