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Old 24th April 2009, 21:48   #16
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The afternoon session was really bad for Ferrari and McLaren. Rosberg in the Williams set the pace.
Hamilton slipped to 11th, Massa to 16th and Kimi to 18th. The frustration seems to be creeping in. Kimi was fined for speeding in the pit lane.
Kovalainen dropped to 19th.
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Ferrari spent the Friday practice doing race simulations. They are not the quickest for obvious reasons, they are not slow either. They should be good in the race
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Old 25th April 2009, 07:36   #18
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Kers on both Ferrari cars as of tomorrow at Bahrain

Sakhir, 24th April 2009 – At Sakhir the Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro’s technicians decided in the usual meeting for the debriefing in the evening after Friday’s free practice sessions that the F60s driven by Massa and Raikkonen will be fitted with the KERS as of tomorrow. The kinetic energy recovery system, the Scuderia has been testing during the winter here in Bahrain, will be present on both cars as of tomorrow, just as the two drivers have hoped for.

Possible updates on the F60 by Spain:

1. A change in geometry of the front suspension; the upper wishbones will be now placed much lower

2. A new floor

3. A DD diffuser. It will not be similar to the ones of toyota and williams. It's more like a triple deck diffuser in the shape of DD diffuser

4. Changes to the rear suspension

5. A new KERS cooling solution

6. Change in the seating position of the driver

..........the rumours are that the new updates will give the car an extra 8-tenths per lap. They found 30% more downforce in the wind tunnel and in the simulators.

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About time the F60 got some changes, and they better work!!
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Old 25th April 2009, 12:03   #20
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FRIDAY PRACTICE 2 RESULTS
1. ROSBERG Williams 1m33.339s
2. ALONSO Renault 1m33.530s
3. TRULLI Toyota 1m33.616s
4. VETTEL Red Bull 1m33.661s
5. WEBBER Red Bull 1m33.676s
6. BUTTON Brawn 1m33.694s
7. SUTIL Force India 1m33.763s
8. GLOCK Toyota 1m33.764s
9. BARRICHELLO Brawn 1m33.885s
10. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m33.899s
11. HAMILTON McLaren 1m33.994s
12. FISICHELLA Force India 1m34.025s
13. BUEMI Toro Rosso 1m34.127s
14. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m34.366s
15. PIQUET Renault 1m34.411s
16. MASSA Ferrari 1m34.564s
17. KUBICA BMW 1m34.605s
18. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m34.670s
19. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m34.764s
20. HEIDFELD BMW 1m34.790s


Damn, looks like Ferrari's not gonna have a good time this week end also :(


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Ferrari has a pretty bad time in Bahrain. If they finish Sunday's grand prix without a World Championship point, it will be the first time in the team's history that they have failed to score a single point in the opening four races of a season. On Friday's running, both Massa and Kimi Raikkonen struggled for pace with Massa finishing down in 16th place. This looks really bad!

Alonso, despite finding himself 17 points behind Champions leader Jenson Button, believes the team are still in with a chance of winning the title. If they can repeat the performance showed in China they can progress on to Q3 and fight for points in the race.
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trulli P1
glock p2
vettel p3

great going vettel !!!!!
ferrari down down ! they are just touch ahead of force india.. so mallaya will be a happy man bcos he is comepting with ferrari

Country Driver Car number Team Qualifying time
1 italy Jarno Trulli 9 Toyota 1:33.431
2 germany Timo Glock 10 Toyota 1:33.712
3 germany Sebastian Vettel 15 Red Bull-Renault 1:34.015
4 great britain Jenson Button 22 Brawn-Mercedes 1:34.044
5 great britain Lewis Hamilton 1 McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.196
6 brazil Rubens Barrichello 23 Brawn-Mercedes 1:34.239
7 spain Fernando Alonso 7 Renault 1:34.578
8 brazil Felipe Massa 3 Ferrari 1:34.818
9 germany Nico Rosberg 16 Williams-Toyota 1:35.134
10 finland Kimi Raikkonen 4 Ferrari 1:35.380
11 finland Heikki Kovalainen 2 McLaren-Mercedes 1:33.242
12 japan Kazuki Nakajima 17 Williams-Toyota 1:33.348
13 poland Robert Kubica 5 BMW Sauber 1:33.487
14 germany Nick Heidfeld 6 BMW Sauber 1:33.562
15 brazil Nelson Piquet Jr 8 Renault 1:33.941
16 germany Adrian Sutil 20 Force India-Mercedes 1:33.722
17 switzerland Sebastien Buemi 12 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:33.753
18 italy Giancarlo Fisichella 21 Force India-Mercedes 1:33.910
19 australia Mark Webber 14 Red Bull-Renault 1:34.038
20 france Sebastien Bourdais 11 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:34.159

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The Official Formula 1 Website

Pre race weights out for the Bahrain gp.

Ferrari really going heavy.

Lewis and Button have the same weight, looks like clawing back.

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Looking at Ferrari's current form, just hope both Massa and Raikkonen will atleast finish the race

Ferrari quote from F1 | ITV Sport
“Our aim is simple: to wipe the zero off our score card in the championship.”

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Starting grid for Sundays Barhrains GP.

Below is the provisional grid for the Bahrain Grand Prix with each car's weight. Cars use around 2.6 kilos of fuel per lap at Sakhir. Note - Force India’s Adrian Sutil has dropped from 16th to 19th after being penalised for blocking Red Bull’s Mark Webber during qualifying.

1. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 648.5 kg
2. Timo Glock, Toyota, 643
3. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 659
4. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 652.5
5. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 652.5
6. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 649
7. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 650.5
8. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 664.5
9. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 670.5
10. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 671.5
11. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 678.5
12. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 680.9
13. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, 698.6
14. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber, 696.3
15. Nelson Piquet, Renault, 677.6
16. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 678.5
17. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India, 652
18. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 656
19. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 679
20. Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso, 667.5

Looks like a dry race
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Its a neat circuit man. I have been there. I hope to be @ Abu Dhabi later this year as well.
My take on ferrari performance, looking @ those fuel loads I think they want to limit it to a 2 stop [doubt with tack temps in high 40s to 50s] and gain places OR the KERS is killing it [added 35-40KG]. If I remember right during second qual session Massa was going faster till I think he messed up a gear or it sliipped [not sure] and he had like one or two corners left.. so I think the car can do same pace as others is what I would like to believe!
All said and done race is race and hence lets see how it unfolds in few hours
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OR the KERS is killing it [added 35-40KG]
Its worth for the 80+ HP. Especially in a situation where engine revs are cut down from 19000 to 18000 rpm. The only problem with KERS is that if presented early without enough grip, one will spin off.
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Looking at Ferrari's current form, just hope both Massa and Raikkonen will atleast finish the race

Ferrari quote from F1 | ITV Sport
“Our aim is simple: to wipe the zero off our score card in the championship.”
Well then thats one really bad aim i must say.
From Hero to zero in no time.
The downfall has begun.
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The downfall has begun.
Not really.Everyone has seen what the interim diffuser has dont to MP24.Lets wait till Spain to see if it brings change of fortunes to the Tiffosi.But unfortunately we might need to wait for 2-3 races to see F60's competitiveness when compared with MP24.

I think Hero to Zero is more applicable to Mclaren in the current context.From having the defending WDC to facing the possibility of being kicked out of this season for a few races,boy they have come a long way.

They seem to be trying hard sacking Dave Ryan,sending Ron out,Whitmarsh's appology,talks held by Mclaren's sponsors with FIA,nothing seems to be working.
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Well then thats one really bad aim i must say.
From Hero to zero in no time.
The downfall has begun.
How many times have we heard this statement in the past few decades?



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