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Old 9th May 2009, 18:34   #31
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What is with Qualifying and Ferrari these days !! Damn, something just has to go wrong in Q1! Besides that, IMO Kimi doesn't seem to have the pace or agression or the determination that Massa has!

The Brawn's were fast as usual, Button was lucky he was able to start the lap just 2secs before the session stopped.

Now time to watch the fuel loads in some time.

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Brilliant Q3 by Brawn GP & Massa! Tomorrow's race is going to be a cracker. What's with Kimi?
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Any updates people,the TV is not working here.
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What is with Qualifying and Ferrari these days !! Damn, something just has to go wrong in Q1! Besides that, IMO Kimi doesn't seem to have the pace or agression or the determination that Massa has!

The Brawn's were fast as usual, Button was lucky he was able to start the lap just 2secs before the session stopped.

Now time to watch the fuel loads in some time.

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I disagree. Both Ferraris were good today but the bungling idiots messed it up again. You can't make the same mistake twice in a season, that too within 2 races. Something's seriously wrong with Ferrari management. The first time in the season they have a good chance of winning the race with a competetive car & they mess up big time with their strategy. Once again Schumacher was around. Maybe he had something to do with it?????
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Even before this mess up happened, Kimi was much slower than Massa.
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who was the Indian guy in the BrawnGP pit garage? one with the pink shirt
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Even before this mess up happened, Kimi was much slower than Massa.
Maybe, but they could have been on different fuel loads. If i remember right, Kimi was 6 tenths slower than Massa. Kimi has admitted that he wasn't happy with his timed lap in Q1 (source f1live.com). Considering that was his first timed lap, he could have definitely improved as the track rubbered down. We'll have to wait & see in the next race how these 2 stack up against each other - hoping that the team of bungling idiots gets the strategies for both of them right.
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Pre Race Weights

1. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 646kg
2. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 651.5kg
3. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 649.5kg
4. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 655kg
5. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 651.5kg
6. Timo Glock, Toyota, 646.5kg
7. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 655.5kg
8. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 645kg
9. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 668kg
10. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, 660kg
11. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 676.6kg
12. Nelson Piquet, Renault, 677.4kg
13. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber, 676.3kg
14. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 683kg
15. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 678kg
16. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 673kg
17. Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso, 669kg
18. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 657kg
19. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 675kg
20. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India, 656kg

Look at Hamiltions weight!! His tyres better last as long as that load of fuel does!

Kimi's car has no probs, it was just another goof up by Ferrari

“We made a stupid mistake,” said the Finn.
Unfortunately, we were unable to fully exploit this improvement, because we made a serious mistake in our evaluation of Q1, believing that Kimi’s time would have been good enough to get him through to the next stage.
Source - F1 | ITV Sport

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Ferrari is still using intermediate diffusers. The proper double diffuser will come into use in Turkey. Still so far it was great stuff by Massa.
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For whoever is interested, there is programme on 'Michael Schumacher' on Fox History today at 2000hrs
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I am extremely disappointed with Kimi's qualifying session. Anyway, no point in talking about it now. Kimi and Lewis are again together so we can hope for some interesting battle between the two.
Hoping for some rain during the race which can mix up the grid, otherwise Spain is one of those races which can be extremely boring with not much action.
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What the hell is wrong with who ever is planning the strategies for Ferrari! They need to kicked right out of the team, and soon! First screwed up big time with Kimi in qualifying. And now in the race when they were in the best position they've ever been all season, they decide to fuel Massa so light that he had to litrelly slow down to finish the race as he was short of a a laps fuel! Damn!

You just had to hear the radio communication btw Massa and his engineer.
Engineer - You used too much fuel on the last lap, you need to slow down or we won't make it
Massa - What do you expect me to do!!! I need to keep position!

Poor Massa was just so helpless.

Brawn win was pretty much expected, or kinda the norm these days. But boy, Webber came in out of no where! Kudos to Red Bull strategy. Was a great drive by Alonso as well. He's like the driver who no matter what car he has, he delivers!!

RESULTS
1. Jenson Button
2. Rubens Barichello
3. Mark Webber
4. Sebastian Vettel
5. Fernando Alonso
6. Felipe Massa
7. Nick Heidfeld
8. Nico Rosberg
9. Lewis Hamilton
10. Timo Glock
11. Robert Kubica
12. Nelson Piquet
13. Kazuki Nakajima
14. Giancarlo Fisichella

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I think the prancing horse have gone into a deep slumber. Blunders in qualifying with Kimi and refuelling blunders again on Massa's car in the race that's just finished have cost them dear! What's happening with Ferrari???
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Ferrari needs new management i think. To imagine Massa lost two places because he didn't have enough fuel is crazy!! Nother disappointing day for the tifosi!
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I think Ferrari can jolly well give up F1 & start a restaurant with their staff instead. I don't think Ferrari would even come 3rd in either the constructor's or drivers championship. The technical team have developed the car at a rapid pace & managed to narrow down the gap to Brawn & Red Bull by upto 60% but their strategists seem to be non-existant. It is down to Drivers to wring the neck of that car & get maximum performance - provided the car survives. Reliability is still their Achilles heel.

P.S.: I want to shove an ice cream up Steve Slater's behind
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