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Old 4th May 2009, 17:30   #1
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Default F1 Barcelona 2009 - Has the Prancing horse awaken from its deep slumber

Let me start this thread for the BarceloneGP.

And here is a video of the F60B doing straight line tests in Vairano.

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The F60 better work properly this time around with all the upgrades its been through.

It seems the F60B weighs about 15kgs less now.. So that should play some part in making it go faster

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I read somewhere that the F60B has lost about 15kgs of weight, weight-saving material used even in seat-belts. And with the DD diffuser and the supposedly tripple decker (Oh yeah beat that teams), the F60B should be able to shave off considerable tenths to reach top-5.

And yeah, Marc Gene did a 450km run in Vairano.
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The hopes of the Tifosi rest on the F60B, this car has to drag the red team out of their lack of form. But a lot of the other teams too would be bringing their updated cars to Barcelona...

The F60B need not be all-conquering like the F2002 or the F2004 (not that I would complain if it was), but I hope it is at least able to run with the leading pack (the Brawns, Red-Bulls, Williams & Toyotas !), allowing Kimi & Massa to showcase their skills. Here's hoping with all fingers & toes crossed !

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Off on F1...

A rumor out that Massa is going to be a father soon. The real "Felipe Baby"
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BGP001 has really become the target for the other teams. Every one is bringing in new performance upgrades to narrow the gap. Even Button gets upgrade package boost in Spain. This is going to be interesting!

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And here is a video of the F60B doing straight line tests in Vairano.
I think what you showed us is..

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22.1 a) III) eight one day aerodynamic tests carried out on FIA approved straight line or constant radius sites between 1 January 2009 and the end of the last Event of the Championship.
but its really hard to expect that the F60(-B ?? Is it ?) will do good from those videos!

After all now its FIA vs Ferrari.

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Formula One could live without Ferrari if they were to walk away in protest at the introduction of a budget cap, according to International Automobile Federation (FIA) president Max Mosley.
.. is hot!
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Slightly Off Topic.

Here is a good song. Enjoy FelipeBaby
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I think what you showed us is..

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22.1 a) III) eight one day aerodynamic tests carried out on FIA approved straight line or constant radius sites between 1 January 2009 and the end of the last Event of the Championship.

but its really hard to expect that the F60(-B ?? Is it ?) will do good from those videos!
Thats the usual confusion from that video. Its a straight line track and the video shows the F60 taking a turn back to the straight. And its FIA approved .
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Now Bernie steps in to clear things out between Ferrari and FIA.

Bernie vows to soothe Ferrari/FIA row - F1 | ITV Sport
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Out goes KERS from the BMW's
BMW â??temporarilyâ?? abandons KERS - F1 | ITV Sport

Looks like this is gonna be the race where most teams are trying out new stuff.
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Not a good sign for F1

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May 5 (GMM) BMW has joined Ferrari in hinting that it is willing to quit formula one if the 'two-tier' budget cap is imposed for 2010.

The newly-published regulations for next year offer teams the option to be limited to a 40m pounds sterling cap, affording them more technical freedoms than their big unlimited-spending rivals.

Max Mosley's revolution has enraged Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo, and BMW motor sport director Mario Theissen revealed on Tuesday that the board of the Munich manufacturer is similarly unimpressed.

"A two-class formula one is not attractive to BMW," the German said at a media event in Munich.

The BMW board re-approved the BMW-Sauber project in February, but Theissen warned that if the landscape in F1 dramatically changes, it would have "the same impact on the project".

The heated situation makes the meeting of the F1 teams alliance FOTA in London on Wednesday crucial.

Theissen expects the gathering to be a long one, but as Bernie Ecclestone suggested this week, the chasm between the big teams' position and that of the FIA president may not be unbridgeable.

But to the German press, he said of Mosley's 40m cap: "In one go you cannot just evaporate by a factor of three. A moving path, for example over two or three years, would be possible."
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Out goes KERS from the BMW's
BMW â??temporarilyâ?? abandons KERS - F1 | ITV Sport

Looks like this is gonna be the race where most teams are trying out new stuff.
With BMW taking KERS off its cars now its just McLaren and Ferrari that have KERS on their cars.
And it was BMW who insisted on having KERS in 2008, such irony.
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Marc Gene quoted saying..
“The Ferrari F60B has the most upgrades I’ve seen so far since I joined Ferrari in 2004,”

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Marc Gene’: “Ferrari F60B has the most upgrades I’ve seen so far” | Formula1News.net

Here's a video on the upgrades on the Ferrari


Just hope that Ferrari live upto all this hype.
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Barcelona preview from Ferrari

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In the past, when the Formula 1 calendar reached its first European event of the season, phrases such, “now the season really starts” and “this is where the title is decided” were commonplace. However, these days, as in every world class sport, there is no time to relax, no warm-up period and no time for complacency.

Therefore, although finally wiping the zero off the Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro scoreboard, thanks to Kimi Raikkonen’s sixth place in Bahrain, was an encouraging morale booster for the team, it by no means diminishes the huge task facing the Scuderia and those others whose early season performance did not live up to expectations.

At the Catalunya circuit this weekend, the Ferrari F60 will be fitted with a new aero package that was always scheduled to debut at the Spanish Grand Prix: it features new bodywork, with modifications to front and rear wings among other elements. In addition to the scheduled updates, the Barcelona package also includes some extra changes, originally scheduled for the Turkish and British events, but now brought forward. Of course, the most obvious aspect of the new package and the one that was not part of the original plans is the new diffuser. It is only a first attempt at designing a part that was not part of the initial design, but is now a required element following the new clarification of the rules governing this component, which emerged as a result of the pre-China GP Court of Appeal hearing and judgement. The new diffuser has only been on the car since last week, when it was tested on Saturday in Vairano, as part of the allowed aero test days, with Marc Gene at the wheel. Initial results inevitably show that the car now produces more downforce and will be quicker than in the early part of the season. How much quicker this will make the F60 when compared to the opposition that has been using this component for a while and those who, like Ferrari, are introducing it in Spain, is hard to say. The first indications will only come during Friday’s free practice sessions when all teams run on the same track at the same time. Adding to the uncertainty is the fact that, thanks to the new rules, this is the first major development on the car that has been carried out without the benefit of track testing.

Accommodating the new rear diffuser has been a complex task. The engineers have had to redesign much of the electronics and hydraulics systems at the rear end of the car, in order to relocate components to make way for the new diffuser. This redesign has been a more complicated procedure than designing, producing and fitting the diffuser itself.

In addition to these performance related modifications, a new chassis (number 279) will be used in Barcelona by Kimi Raikkonen. It is lighter than the existing chassis and the reason only Raikkonen will use it is that clearly, his natural physique and height means he weighs more than Felipe Massa and therefore it is more of a challenge to accommodate the additional weight of the KERS system on his car. This was part of a planned programme which began at the end of 2008. Making the chassis lighter has in no way compromised the safety aspect and indeed, the new chassis was put through a crash test, which it passed. And on the subject of KERS, this will be used again in Spain, after much work has been carried out on the reliability of the system since the last race. With temperatures expected to be much cooler than the extreme conditions experienced in Bahrain, it is hoped that reliability will not be a concern.

The Spanish Grand Prix takes place on the first circuit on the calendar where teams had a chance to test their cars over the winter. In the March tests, the Ferrari F60 was quite competitive, if one rules out the times of the team currently leading the series. However, the cars have evolved so much in the past few weeks that the test results should not be regarded as a clear indication of the current pecking order. The Circuit de Catalunya is regarded as the best track for evaluating aerodynamic performance and it is a truism that a car which performs well here will usually perform equally well at the majority of circuits. It is unlikely that there will be much overtaking during the race, once again emphasising the importance of Qualifying. As for KERS, this should be an advantage here for the F60, built to run with the energy system as an intrinsic part of its design, which means that, as was evident in back to back tests during practice in Bahrain, the F60 gains virtually no advantage in terms of car balance, when running without it. KERS can be a significant driver aid at the race start here, as the main straight is very long.

The team itself continues to work hard, aware it is having to play “catch-up” to the teams currently at the top of the points table. The Scuderia does not regard this fifth round of the championship as a make or break Grand Prix and even if the Barcelona race does not bring home a big points score, everyone including the drivers will be giving the European part of the season maximum concentration and effort.

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2 Ferrari fans are dominating this thread! Hope it turns well, as expected.
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