Go Back   Team-BHP > Buckle Up > Motor-Sports > Int'l Motorsport


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 20th June 2005, 19:54   #16
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Mpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 10,428
Thanked: 1,676 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steeroid
Please change the title of this thread to "Narain Couldnt Finish Third"
Man that a good one. I noticed his driving style was smoother than before, but the end result is that he was much slower than Tiago but finished the race. I guess its better for Narian to be ragged, that way he is at-least faster
than Tiago.
Mpower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2005, 21:59   #17
Senior - BHPian
 
karthik247's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: BLR, HYD
Posts: 2,708
Thanked: 16 Times
Default

It would have just been a wonderful sight to see and Indian on the F1 podium....but that just didn't seem to happen. And does this mean Tiago is quicker than Narain???!!!
karthik247 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2005, 22:07   #18
Senior - BHPian
 
adya33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,839
Thanked: 91 Times
Default

Quote:
And does this mean Tiago is quicker than Narain???!!!
not judging only by Indy
but YES

or else in polite words we can say "Jordan suits better to Tiago's driving style than Narains"
adya33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2005, 22:24   #19
Senior - BHPian
 
Revvmaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 1,186
Thanked: 45 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon
Lets look at the some positive points:
  • Finished race
  • Fourth position
  • Finished ahead of Albers who had outqualified him
  • Fastest Lap Time - 1:13.370 compared to Monteiro's 1.13:237, good enough.
Well i guess point no.1 is valid. Point no.2 is under debatable conditions, but then again history books will overlook that. Point no.3 is not valid. He had to complete ahead of the Minardis if he needs to stick around. Point no.4 isn't. History books won't record that, races are about finishing ahead of your team-mate. Let alone rivals.

Revv
Revvmaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2005, 23:17   #20
Senior - BHPian
 
aadix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: hyderabad
Posts: 1,594
Thanked: 9 Times
Default

narain could have gotten into third place if not for an oil overflow (??) at the beginning of the race.
he was abt to get ahead of tiago when there was some sort of smoke coming from his car.

was wondering why couldnt have the jordan team asked tiago to let narain ahead (when ferrari can do it,why not jordan?) esp when the indians companies are the major sponsors of jordan.

imo narain could have gotten into the third place,but couldnt and there is no excuse for that.
aadix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2005, 23:28   #21
Senior - BHPian
 
adya33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,839
Thanked: 91 Times
Default

Quote:
was wondering why couldnt have the jordan team asked tiago to let narain ahead (when ferrari can do it,why not jordan?) esp when the indians companies are the major sponsors of jordan.
FIA has banned team orders
besides Tiago wouldn't have let Narain through - infact no driver scoring his first podium (in first season) would have let anyone through

besides Jordan also has other sponsers whom they have to keep happy
adya33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st June 2005, 00:40   #22
Senior - BHPian
 
v1p3r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: BLR - chasing cars...
Posts: 4,836
Thanked: 23 Times
Default

Yeah, I've been wondering why no one pointed out the apparent mishap at the starting grid. NK seemed to be in trouble as soon as the lights went off, and the commentators thought he'd pit instantly.

Give the guy a break, guys. He drove well enough. Just because his team-mate outpaced him, doesn't mean he's dead. Debatable or otherwise, he IS in the points this season!
v1p3r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st June 2005, 09:28   #23
Senior - BHPian
 
adya33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,839
Thanked: 91 Times
Default

Quote:
Give the guy a break, guys. He drove well enough. Just because his team-mate outpaced him, doesn't mean he's dead.
yes the man drove good, but in small teams unfortunetly only way to make an impression is the beat your team mate. tiago has finished ahead of him constantly execpt for first few races & also don't forget Narain has had that war of words while Tiago has been quite & proving himself on track
adya33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st June 2005, 09:45   #24
Team-BHP Support
 
navin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: mumbai
Posts: 22,230
Thanked: 3,642 Times
Default

I get a nagging feeling that NK is desperate. the war of words, the ragged driving. most of us are not pros but we know well enough to adapt from a premier padmini, to a zen, to a accord etc. NK is a professional.

let me give you an example. many eons ago a tennis player called Jimmy Connors signed up with Wilson who produed a racket called the T2000 suppsoedly for him. when he first tried it out it was like a trampoline. He figured out the racket (modified the recommended string tension to suit him) and went on to win a few majors. NK saying the car is no good or does not suit hm is like Sachin saying his bat is too heavy or too light etc. You are a Pro. in many cases you can choose or modify your tools (suspension, tyre pressure, etc..). DO YOUR JOB. Like Eric Clapton is claimed to have said "Shutup and player yer guitar!"
navin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st June 2005, 13:14   #25
Senior - BHPian
 
v1p3r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: BLR - chasing cars...
Posts: 4,836
Thanked: 23 Times
Default

The only thing to be adjusted with a racquet is string tension. The analogy is hardly suited to an F1 car, with thousands of parts.

Btw...players often break racquets because they use tension that is too high. Can't have that happening to an F1 car, can we?
v1p3r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st June 2005, 13:21   #26
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: pune
Posts: 2,088
Thanked: 48 Times
Default

Even if analogy does not fit, moral of the story is clear. "Keep your mouth shut and do your work as best as possible. Let your work talk for you rather than your big mouth".
RX135 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2005, 00:14   #27
Team-BHP Support
 
navin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: mumbai
Posts: 22,230
Thanked: 3,642 Times
Default

What i meant to say was Jimmy never said a word about his racket he just figured it out. BTW we forgot NK may have finished fourth but he also finsihed 3rd last! just kidding. NK has doen a great job so far. it is very diffuclt to have come so far. only now he has to act like a professional which is where i think he is failing. If you are not as fast as your teammate or the car does not suit your style you adapt and try to make the best of it even it means finishing behind your teammate. luck does turn.
navin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2005, 00:21   #28
Team-BHP Support
 
navin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: mumbai
Posts: 22,230
Thanked: 3,642 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by v1p3r
The only thing to be adjusted with a racquet is string tension.Btw...players often break racquets because they use tension that is too high. Can't have that happening to an F1 car, can we?
tension and balance (lead tape) and cushioning/feel (handle covers) and weight. and as far as breaking cars go I think NK has crashed a few times already. JUST KIDDING.

More MODERN rackets are broken out of anger than string tension. Maybe it is the players that are too highly strung. :-) i supposed you are refering to those instances when Bjorn Borg broke a raxket with a string tension of 80 lbs. Well John Mcenroe broke many more rackets and the tension on his string was on below 60 lbs. ha ha just kidding again.

lets get back to F1 shall we. sorry for the digression.
navin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2005, 02:58   #29
Senior - BHPian
 
X-Machine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Mumbai/Tokyo
Posts: 1,476
Thanked: 11 Times
Default

Big Deal!!!!! Put all the remaining 14 cars on track and Narain would finish 15+.
And moreover,none of the newspapers went ga-ga over the entire Narian episode of finishing 4th,because they know that he did'nt deserve it.Bottomline!

X
X-Machine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2005, 12:17   #30
Team-BHP Support
 
navin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: mumbai
Posts: 22,230
Thanked: 3,642 Times
Default

...and if Minardi was using Michellin NK would have been 4th and last. ok ok no more NK jokes. poor guy. I think he has done superbly to reach F1. he is on a very tight budget and has had to plead his way there. that puts a lot of stress. and under stress desperate things are said (bad mouthing the car) and done (the crashes). He has done more than all of us on this forum have done - put india on the F1 map - that is more than ex AP chief minister Naidu could do (not that he did not try).
navin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Indian driver - Aditya Patel - finishes 4th @ Round 2 of Scirocco R-Cup 2011 GTO Int'l Motorsport 1 7th June 2011 09:54
F1 Belgian GP at Spa : FORCE INDIA on Pole: Finishes Second! madhukar_n Int'l Motorsport 192 4th September 2009 08:07
Narain Karthikeyan!!! Shan2nu Indian Motorsport 5 3rd October 2007 20:55
Narain Karthikeyan: India's FIRST F1 Driver confirmed!! speedsatya Int'l Motorsport 103 5th March 2005 19:40
Is Narain Karthikeyan really a responsible driver? autopsyche Shifting gears 60 29th January 2005 21:01


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 17:03.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks