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Old 30th January 2010, 22:18   #1
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The diffuser row, that hit the sport by storm in 2009 may very well make a re-appearance in 2010.
Ferrari, just two days ago released the F10, the car they believe will be a prime contender for the 2010 Formula 1 world championship. However it is now becoming more clear just where some of the Ferrari B-spec car rumors may be coming from.
In 2009, Formula 1 teams argued over the validity of the diffuser rule interpretations which allowed for multiple deck diffusers significantly increasing the cars’ downforce figures. The opening rounds of the 2009 championship were contested under court appeal and protests about the legality of the multiple deck diffuser concept overshadowing the opening rounds of the championship.
Many had hoped that the FIA, would close the loopholes associated with the design and clarity in the rules could once again be restored. The FIA however, chose to make no changes to the 2010 rulebook until 2011 leaving what some believe to be further exploits in the interpretation of the design for the upcoming year. There had been hopes that the subsequent clarity of the rules would help the sport avoid a repeat of the 2009 fiasco this time out. The situation though could turn out entirely different.
News is starting to circulate, that teams may have gone further in exploiting the rules in the area of diffusers, and there are now fears that there could even be another wave of protests.
Back to the Ferrari. Several weeks ago, an article in German publication Motorsport Aktuell written by (it must be said) a respected contributor to the Italian magazine ‘Autosprint’; Alberto Antonini who had uncovered many of Formula 1 teams’ technical secrets in years past has claimed that final windtunnel results of the F10 did not excite Maranello engineers and that the car was lacking aerodynamic efficiency coming short of achieving set design goals. The author added that a B-spec version of the car was in the works. No reason for the news was stated.
Now, just hours after the launch of rival MP4/25 McLaren more news that could lead to the origin of the rumor has started to emerge.
McLaren engineering director Paddy Lowe said at the launch of the MP4/25 on Friday that the McLaren design team had gone all out and pushed the diffuser regulations as far as they felt was possible. “How far is that?” Is the question many teams may be asking.
Lowe is fairly certain that they have not gone over the edge and that the rules have been clear enough. Of course, why would he have doubts!
“We think the interpretation is very clear,”Lowe said. “In certain aspects we have sought guidance from the FIA and they have come out with very clear interpretation, understanding and guidance – and we think that has been made available to all the teams.
“We are hoping for a much cleaner start to the season then we had a year ago in terms of the teams’ collective understanding of the basis from which we go racing.”
“This is the first car in which we have had a clean sheet of paper to really exploit the interpretation that was developed last year for a design of floors/
“You will see we have produced a fairly “extreme” incarnation of that but we won’t be alone in that. We believe you will see some pretty extreme solutions on our competitors’ cars as well.”
Ferrari however have been the first of the teams to once again voice concern that not every team may have the same interpreting of the regulations and that some may choose to go beyond what they would consider legal in exploring the boundaries of the 2009 loophole.
“We were and still are convinced that the double diffuser concept was illegal,” said Ferrari technical director Aldo Costa in speaking to Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport. “We feel there may still be interpretation over this, as the rules leave the door open to many possibilities.”
Ferrari believe, that the FIA may once again fail to set a bar on what is or isn’t legal allowing for beyond reasonable interpretations.
“It’s up to the FIA to supervise, but we are rather worried.” added Costa.
Piero Ferrari shared the same fears, suggesting that Ferrari have pushed the boundaries of what they feel is legal, but others may not have drawn the same line: “I expect a Ferrari worthy of the title, unless someone interprets the rules differently.” said Piero.
Could this be the source of the Ferrari F10 b-spec rumor? Ferrari’s sentiments are leading some to believe that Albero Antonini (the reporter that leaked the rumor) has somehow got wind of these Ferrari concerns before anybody else. Given Ferrari’s significant head start on the 2010 challenger, the Italian team may be planning a more radical F10b version of the car if it becomes clear that rules can be pushed beyond where Ferrari chose to originally draw the line on their F10 design.



SOURCE: Is this the source of the Ferrari F10b spec rumor? | Unofficial Ferrari F1 Forum News & Fan Discussion



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Old 31st January 2010, 20:26   #2
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Going by the sheer number of rumours, I wouldn't be surprised if its true. But remember McLaren last year? The worst car on the grid at the start and one of the best (if not the best) towards the end. Its not difficult for a top team to turn their fortunes around. But a bad start certainly will hurt them and I guess they'll be working 24x7 to fix the problems, if any.
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I just hope they are within hundredths of a second to the best running team and not two seconds slower like in the beginning of 2009.

They have good drivers who can run the car hard and extract the maximum. Just have a car which they feel like driving not the tractor, like 2009.

Also none have seen the diffuser yet. It will all be clear beginning tomorrow. I think they will be quick but not necessarily the quickest.
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hope they are one of the backmarkers, that will good; two years in a row


Really doubtful though. Will get to know in winter testing , waiting for the testing to begin
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Ha ha. Ferrari are too good to be a back marker. And they have proved it by topping the tests in Valencia. Eventhough it is subject to a lot of speculation, I am happy they are in the front.

And actually talks are such that the B-Specc could actually provide even more downforce than the existing diffuser

Waiting for Jerez, Barcelona and then to Bahrain for the start of the season.
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Mr. Schmifan If you remember last year they were ahead of all the rest in intial tests cause of the fuel loads, so lets not judge as per first test pal

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Ha ha. Ferrari are too good to be a back marker. And they have proved it by topping the tests in Valencia. Eventhough it is subject to a lot of speculation, I am happy they are in the front.

And actually talks are such that the B-Specc could actually provide even more downforce than the existing diffuser

Waiting for Jerez, Barcelona and then to Bahrain for the start of the season.
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Adding to the diffuser row, another main problem which can hamper their success is the low fuel efficieny of their cars....they sure do miss the genius of Rory, Ross likes...
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Last season they were the fastest until the DDD issue came up and if you read properly Brawn were already running fastest in the last test itself.
Reports were that they were running without ballast, glory runs for sponsors etc. But it was due to the DDD.

Also Ferrari missed the 3rd place by 1 point. And with Massa not driving the car starting from Hungary(7 Races), it hampered Ferrari's chances of scoring points.

And Williams and Toyota finished way beyond Ferrari with their cars equipped with DDD.

That is an achievement with that dog of a car.

They are the most successful team in the history of the sport and have two drivers who are itching to prove themselves.
So you could be disappointed when Brazil comes and the inevitable occurs
Relax until.
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