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Old 18th May 2010, 17:54   #16
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^^ Webber at Ferrari!? No, please!

He is getting over-rated for just 2 good races for him! Come on...
Massa is underperforming too. I wouldn't be surprised if Ferrari want to replace him and Webber is the only other guy who's decently capable and out of contract at the end of this year. Obviously, they won't hire Raikkonen back (or will they?) so there's not too many options.
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I am sure Luca has started looking at an alternative for Massa in 2011. By all probabilities it will be Kubica!

Redbull is in need of a driver who can be consistent & fight for WDC. I have not seen this consistency so far from Vettel/Webber. They are fast for sure, but consistency is key. If they were consistent, this season would have already been over for the kind of car that RB4 is now. The catch up game from other teams are ON and it will only get tougher for Redbull from now on. We have seen so far how bad the Redbull boys are when they are not leading a race. They should have done what Brawn did last year. Both drivers have failed miserably in that. Vettel is young and he has a long way to go in F1. That's not the case with Webber, he has been in F1 for long!

Ferrari would not offer a contract to Webber for the same reason. They expected Massa/Alonso combination to dominate this season. But, Massa has lot his speed & he doesn't have Schumi in Ferrari to back him up. I would bet on Kubica at Ferrari in 2011.

Ferrari will not bring Kimi back, but if Kimi is coming back to F1 he would be in the Redbull team!
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What happened to Kubica moving to Ferrari?
The way things are today, every driver would want to move to Red Bull. So, why would Mark Webber who's already in it consider moving to a Ferrari or Mclaren or any other team unless Redbull wants him to leave?
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The way things are today, every driver would want to move to Red Bull. So, why would Mark Webber who's already in it consider moving to a Ferrari or Mclaren or any other team unless Redbull wants him to leave?
Nail on the head there. But I suspect Red Bull may be reevaluating their opinion of Webber after these two races. So its up in the air
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Redbull is in need of a driver who can be consistent & fight for WDC. I have not seen this consistency so far from Vettel/Webber. They are fast for sure, but consistency is key. If they were consistent, this season would have already been over for the kind of car that RB4 is now. The catch up game from other teams are ON and it will only get tougher for Redbull from now on. We have seen so far how bad the Redbull boys are when they are not leading a race. They should have done what Brawn did last year. Both drivers have failed miserably in that. Vettel is young and he has a long way to go in F1. That's not the case with Webber, he has been in F1 for long!
After Schumacher's 2006 retirement, no driver has been consistent unless given a car head-and-shoulders above the rest, like Button's in 2009. Even then, he only dominated races where Brawn had a serious advantage. The moment RB started looking good, he changed his race strategy to salvage whatever points he could get. In 2007, Hamilton, Alonso and Raikkonen all made mistakes. If Schumacher was in that McLaren, there would've been no competition. Hamilton again almost lost the WDC in 2008 because of his inconsistency.

The cars have become much closer in terms of performance and there's no racer who is able to dominate everyone every race weekend.
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What happened to Kubica moving to Ferrari?
The way things are today, every driver would want to move to Red Bull. So, why would Mark Webber who's already in it consider moving to a Ferrari or Mclaren or any other team unless Redbull wants him to leave?
Its not Mark Webber who was considering a future outside of Redbull, it was Redbull who are considering their options before signing a contract with Webber. Something comparable to the situation DC was back in 2004 & Mclaren!

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After Schumacher's 2006 retirement, no driver has been consistent unless given a car head-and-shoulders above the rest, like Button's in 2009. Even then, he only dominated races where Brawn had a serious advantage. The moment RB started looking good, he changed his race strategy to salvage whatever points he could get. In 2007, Hamilton, Alonso and Raikkonen all made mistakes. If Schumacher was in that McLaren, there would've been no competition. Hamilton again almost lost the WDC in 2008 because of his inconsistency.

The cars have become much closer in terms of performance and there's no racer who is able to dominate everyone every race weekend.
That's the consistency I was talking about. Last year Jenson was consistently in points where the Brawn couldn't dominate & he secured a WDC for himself. He is doing the same this year! He dint do anything stupid to lose points.

Compare this to an amateurish overtaking by Webber in Australia to take out Hamilton & himself where he could have scored valuable points to fight for WDC. Its also good points lost for the team in the WCC.

Both Vettel & Webber are superb when they start from the front! Otherwise... they have a poor record so far!

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..Could this mean that we have already seen Iceman's last race in F1 :-( :-(
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Take F1 contracts with a pinch of salt! Ferrari will always be ready to loan Massa to another team if there is a situation!
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Take F1 contracts with a pinch of salt! Ferrari will always be ready to loan Massa to another team if there is a situation!
Ferrari have given Felipe Massa a new two-year deal that will keep him with the Italian team until the end of 2012
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Take F1 contracts with a pinch of salt! Ferrari will always be ready to loan Massa to another team if there is a situation!
True they dumped Schumi , and nobody got a hint of all those background drama.
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Ferrari have given Felipe Massa a new two-year deal that will keep him with the Italian team until the end of 2012
Kimi too had an on going contract with Ferrari when he was replaced by Alonso. I would prefer to wait and watch till this season unfolds completely.
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It is less formula one, more formula moolah. If Banco Santander could muscle in Alonso into Ferrari ( and Ferrari was more than willing) I wouldn't be surprised to see a dodgy Indian politico sponsor his son or nephew and get a seat on any one of those teams.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a dodgy Indian politico sponsor his son or nephew and get a seat on any one of those teams.
Well, I'd say BE surprised if that happens.
For all the money in the middle east, there is not ONE middle eastern Formula 1 driver, is there?
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Well, I'd say BE surprised if that happens.
For all the money in the middle east, there is not ONE middle eastern Formula 1 driver, is there?
>>> Or a middle eastern potentate
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