Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > Team-BHP Reviews > Long-Term Ownership Reviews


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 27th March 2013, 10:05   #1
Senior - BHPian
 
arnabchak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: MH-04
Posts: 1,319
Thanked: 1,083 Times
Default A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR

It has been a year since the baby with beautiful blue eyes was delivered by Fortpoint Thane, all decked with Chinese Ribbons.

The initial ownership report can be checked at the below link:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...omes-home.html


The dealership experience was fantastic.

And I continue to stay a satisfied customer of MSIL. Their after sales and follow up has been exemplary and I was pleasantly surprised that the MSIL team followed up at all important junctures- Service points at 1K Kms, 5K Kms and hence forth was absolutely spot on.

In fact, even the insurance renewal process was a hasslefree one.

On top of that, after negotiating, got two service vouchers, a Rs. 500 labour discount voucher and a Holiday Voucher for 2 nights/three days from Travelport complimentary.

Now, back to the ownership report.

Features:

The Wagon R CNG is only available in the base LXi model. I sincerely wished that the CNG was also available in the top and loaded VXi.

The features available in the LXi model are enlisted below:

- Power Steering(Electronic PS)
- Front Two power windows.
- Manual HVAC
- Roof top antenna(the old and drab pull type ones)
- Rear Parcel Tray
- 60:40 rear seat
- Central locking
- Remote Boot Lock/unlock switch
- Remote Fuel Open Lid
- Can Holder in the front(near side AC vents)
- Bottle Holder behind hand brake
- Illumination controlled centre panel

List of main features I wished was also there and available in the VXi

- Tachometer
- Electric Mirrors
- Rear Wiper with Defogger
- Inbuilt Music system
- Key less entry

The Year with the Waggie:

During the course of the year, there has been several long distance tours:

1) Dahanu

Mumbai to Dahanu is close to 135 kms.
This scenic location, though close by is a nice peaceful and relaxing location.
We normally go to the SEawoods Dahanu to spend a quiet peaceful weekend.

Good food, good location and a beautiful drive from Dahanu to Bordi makes the day.

Road Condition: Good to Very Good
CNG AVailability- Last Tank Up at Thane
Average- 25+ Kms/Kg(CNG)
Average- 18 kmpl(Petrol)

Dahanu is an idyllic location. very close from Mumbai yet the peace and serenity is unmatched.

A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR-photo0628.jpg

The Picture perfect sea beach. It gives a sense of peace and serenity.

A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR-photo0631.jpg

The setting Sun at Dahanu, with the promise that another brighter day is just the other side of the night.

A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR-photo0636.jpg

A Tree standing like a solitary soldier-Dahanu Beach.

Anand

2) Anand

My hometown. 450 kms from Mumbai.

Two trips home. The first was a surprise visit and parents were on Cloud 9.
And, with my then 5 month old, it was a journey worth remembering. My little one had a whale of a time with wide eyes, absorbing the new roads and every thing that is passing by.

Second trip was for my little ones Annaprashan, i.e Rice Eating Ceremony.

The trip was undertaken via Thane, Virar, Dahanu, Vapi, Surat, Bharuch, Baroda and Anand.

Road condition- Excellent
Toll- Rs. 400+(Single Way)
Average- 26+ kms/kg
CNG Availability- Vapi/Surat/Baroda/Anand


The First Diwali with our Wagon R.

A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR-photo1012.jpg

Diwali always brings a cheer...

A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR-spark.jpg



3) Pune

Mumbai-Pune-160 kms

Trips-Innumerable.

Very Frequent trips from the office to Pune.

Nothing to crave upon. Take the Waggie more out of convenience and the love to drive.

Road Condition: Worse(The express highway-cement is injurious to the health of the tyres)

Mileage: 24+ kms/kg
CNG Availability- Thane and Pune
(However, in Pune, the average wait time is not less than 50 mins)


------------------------------------------------------------------

The last one year has been a happy outing with the Wagon R.

I will try and list out the positives first:

1) Mileage:
Fantastic. On any given day, under city conditions and 100% AC usage, the average has never dipped below 22 kms/kg.

On the highway, I have attained a mileage of upto 29 kms/kg.

If I calculate an average efficiency, the stats will be similar to the below figures:

City- 22 kms/kg
Highway-25+ kms/kg

2) Car feel:
After driving the fun to drive Ikon, I was taken aback by the drive feel of the Wagon R. To be honest, I still miss the handling prowness of the Ikon.

However, Wagon R, to its credit, does not give the rush in feeling that other MSIL vehicles(like old Zen/ M800) used to give.

Even at high speeds, the feeling of speed is absent.

3) Space:
For a hatch, the space is great. It gives the feel of driving a bigger car.


The car has oodles of space and a large glass area making it feel a lot bigger.

Name:  DSC04064.JPG
Views: 6780
Size:  130.2 KB


4) A.S.S responsiveness
The Service station is a pleasure to be in. They are responsive and till now, all the services have been done as per my expectation. Infact, there was a small scratch on the bumper. In the last service, I requested that they do the touch up. After a little hesitation, that was done.

They painted the whole panel and that was sweet.

Now, for the few negative points:

1) Rattles:
Even for a new car, the rattles are someting that keeps cropping up.
I have fixed them in all the service schedules but after a while they just crop up. Guess, I need to live with it.

2) High Speed Stability
At speeds of over 100 kmph, the car does not give a planted feel. Also, at these speeds, a heavy gust of wind can sway the car substantially.

Having driven a lot on highways, I feel that Wagon R is best suited for speeds this side of 100 kmph.

It feels fine till 90 kmph.

3) A.S.S Service Costs
I was surprised when I was quoted an almost 10K service charge estimate in my last outing at A.S.S.

The deatils of the service charge for my 4th Paid Service can be read at the below link:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ml#post3062796 (Maruti Service is cheap - A myth!)
(Post #145)

Having been at Team Bhp and studying various threads related to the fleecing tactics at A.S.S, I could cut short that bill by 40%.

4) Absolutely no storage:
Well, this was a given at the time of buying the CNG. However, some space allocation from some where would have been welcome.

5) No Tacho and rear wiper:
Would have loved to see the Tacho in the CNG version. Alas, that is missing and honestly sorely missed. The tell tale lights at the speedo console. I miss the good old days analogue fuel and temperature clocks!!


The basic speedo console. The lack of tacho is sorely missed. The sun inspired meters looks beautiful at night with an amber back light.

Name:  DSC04072.JPG
Views: 7906
Size:  153.8 KB


The console with the tell tale lights

Name:  DSC04070.JPG
Views: 7390
Size:  115.5 KB

6) Getting the right seating position is tough.

Ikon's knob was a lot more convenient with multiple seating options available unlike Waggies only 04 pre fixed options.

Name:  DSC04064.JPG
Views: 6780
Size:  130.2 KB

7) The steering feels vague a high speeds-on the other side of 100 kmph.

Name:  DSC04067.JPG
Views: 6666
Size:  141.4 KB

8) No internally adjustable mirror.You have to manually adjust it.
VXi on the other hand gets electrically adjustable mirrors.


Name:  DSC04075.JPG
Views: 6530
Size:  141.4 KB
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The small car has a big car feel.

A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR-dsc04055.jpg

It has been a exactly a year with the Wagon R.

Initially, both of us were very skeptical if we should infact go for a small car. Then, practicality and the impetus on savings post our baby boy was delivered took a pivotal role in the decision.

And, it certainly seems that we have taken a logical step with the practical, no nonsense Wagon R.

Though it lacks the panache of a Ford Ikon or its handling skills, it does its job perfectly well to commute from Point A to Point B with the least impact on your wallet.

As for today, the speedo reads at 22017, indicating almost 1750 kms a month of travel.

This, considering that I have a high touring job and on many occasions, I am traveling almost 10-15 days a month.

To sign off, Wagon R CNG is

- Practical
- Easy to maintain
- Cheap to run
- Not for some one who is into the thrill of driving. Try the Fiesta Classic/Linea/Swift for the thrill.
- Big spacious car.
Attached Images
 

Last edited by arnabchak : 27th March 2013 at 11:32. Reason: Image rotation
arnabchak is offline   (5) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 28th March 2013, 17:28   #2
GTO
Team-BHP Support
 
GTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 47,705
Thanked: 89,156 Times
Default Re: A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR

Thread moved from the Assembly Line (The "Assembly Line" Forum section) to the Long-Term Ownership Section. Thanks for sharing!
GTO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th March 2013, 17:44   #3
BHPian
 
kannan666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: KA-02
Posts: 939
Thanked: 69 Times
Default Re: A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR

Nice review with good pictures to go with it. I always drive a Wagon R in and around Goa for a week during my yearly visits there and it is a zippy fun car to drive with good mileage figures and a reasonable A/C. Also drive a friend's Wagon R here once in a while and the A/C unit works much better here in Bangalore than it does out there in Goa purely due to the vast difference in climatic conditions of the two places I guess.
kannan666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th March 2013, 18:19   #4
Senior - BHPian
 
Jignesh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Eindhoven, NL
Posts: 1,603
Thanked: 933 Times
Default Re: A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR

Hello Arnabchak,

Congrats on completing happy & satisfying 22000 kms on your new WagonR Lxi CNG.

I own a 2010 WagonR Vxi & it is indeed a very practical & spacious car. Yes, electric OVRMS & Tachometer are things that you will surely miss in lxo version cars. Regarding Tachmeter, you can explore the option of installing aftermarket Tachometer which will stand on dashboard.

Coming to CNG, the mileage figures (22 to 29 kms/kg) that you are getting are absolutely fantastic. Further mileage figure of minimum 22 kms per kg of CNG in city (Mumbai) driving conditions is great - which works out to less than Rs. 1.5 per KM. For Petrol only WagonR the cost per km is approx Rs. 6 per km in city traffic conditions.

Even I am thinking of installing CNG kit in my car, do you notice any serious drop in power in your Car? specially on highways? Are the rear suspensions in CNG version wagonR's specially designed to hold 50+ kg of CNG Tank weight or they are same ones in petrol only version cars?

Thanks,
Jignesh is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 28th March 2013, 18:46   #5
Distinguished - BHPian
 
paragsachania's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Belur/Bangalore
Posts: 4,248
Thanked: 10,505 Times
Default Re: A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jignesh View Post
Regarding Tachmeter, you can explore the option of installing aftermarket Tachometer which will stand on dashboard.
You can install the OE Tachometer of a Ritz and give it an almost factory like outcome for a price as cheap as 10XX INR.

The only thing to bother for the new WagonR (K-Series) is to get to know the wiring diagram/information for the cables attached behind the speedometer console.

Since a Vxi has a Tachometer in the speedometer console, in LXi there will be existing Tachometer signal wire coming from the ECU (TTL Logic to supply RPM signals) which will be part of a connector. The pain is to find out which is this wire.

If you get hold of this, the rest of 3 wires for the Tachometer are only for backlight, 12v and Ground.

For reference, check this post where I have DIY installed the Ritz tachometer for my WagonR F10D.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ml#post2940506
paragsachania is online now   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 29th March 2013, 16:39   #6
Senior - BHPian
 
arnabchak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: MH-04
Posts: 1,319
Thanked: 1,083 Times
Default

Mod Note : Please use the EDIT or MULTI-QUOTE buttons instead of typing one post after another on the SAME THREAD!.

To know how to multi-quote, click here (How to MULTI-QUOTE (when replying to a thread) on Team-BHP).

Quote:
Originally Posted by kannan666 View Post
Nice review with good pictures to go with it. I always drive a Wagon R in and around Goa for a week during my yearly visits there and it is a zippy fun car to drive with good mileage figures and a reasonable A/C. Also drive a friend's Wagon R here once in a while and the A/C unit works much better here in Bangalore than it does out there in Goa purely due to the vast difference in climatic conditions of the two places I guess.
@Kannan

The outside temperature plays a great role in the cooling of the AC within the car cabin.

In comparison to most Maruti vehicles, I would rate the WR chiller decent.

Yes, it is zippy to drive and the CNG set up does not interfere with the driveability of the car.

Quote:
Originally Posted by paragsachania View Post
You can install the OE Tachometer of a Ritz and give it an almost factory like outcome for a price as cheap as 10XX INR.

The only thing to bother for the new WagonR (K-Series) is to get to know the wiring diagram/information for the cables attached behind the speedometer console.

Since a Vxi has a Tachometer in the speedometer console, in LXi there will be existing Tachometer signal wire coming from the ECU (TTL Logic to supply RPM signals) which will be part of a connector. The pain is to find out which is this wire.

If you get hold of this, the rest of 3 wires for the Tachometer are only for backlight, 12v and Ground.

For reference, check this post where I have DIY installed the Ritz tachometer for my WagonR F10D.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ml#post2940506

@Parag

Great DIY stuff. And it looks good too.

However, if I am to get it done through MASS, what will the cost be?

Also, will they do it in the first place and what about the warranty lapse issue if the same is done??

What has been your cost of installing the Tacho?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jignesh View Post
Hello Arnabchak,

Congrats on completing happy & satisfying 22000 kms on your new WagonR Lxi CNG.

I own a 2010 WagonR Vxi & it is indeed a very practical & spacious car. Yes, electric OVRMS & Tachometer are things that you will surely miss in lxo version cars. Regarding Tachmeter, you can explore the option of installing aftermarket Tachometer which will stand on dashboard.

Coming to CNG, the mileage figures (22 to 29 kms/kg) that you are getting are absolutely fantastic. Further mileage figure of minimum 22 kms per kg of CNG in city (Mumbai) driving conditions is great - which works out to less than Rs. 1.5 per KM. For Petrol only WagonR the cost per km is approx Rs. 6 per km in city traffic conditions.

Even I am thinking of installing CNG kit in my car, do you notice any serious drop in power in your Car? specially on highways? Are the rear suspensions in CNG version wagonR's specially designed to hold 50+ kg of CNG Tank weight or they are same ones in petrol only version cars?

Thanks,

@ Jignesh

Thanks for your comments.

To answer your queries,

1) The CNG cost actually comes to around Rs. 1.5/km in the factory fitted kit. If you do a retro fitting, you can try it with Lovato/BRC/Tomasetto.

Any good retro fitter can do a decent job. In Mumbai, Greenglobe, located in Mulund are amongst the best in CNG kit fitments.

If you retro fit, the cost per km can come down drastically from your now petrol consumption of Rs.6/-. Even in the worst come scenario, your per km cost will not exceed Rs. 2.5/-.

2) MSIL have reworked on the rear suspensions of the WR to accommodate the extra weight of the cylinder.

3) There is no drop in performace with the CNG. Infact, the car starts in petrol and minimises dry run of the engine during start up.

Last edited by GTO : 30th March 2013 at 17:14. Reason: Please use the EDIT or MULTI-QUOTE buttons instead of typing one post after another!
arnabchak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th March 2013, 18:23   #7
Distinguished - BHPian
 
paragsachania's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Belur/Bangalore
Posts: 4,248
Thanked: 10,505 Times
Default Re: A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR

Quote:
Originally Posted by arnabchak View Post
@Parag

Great DIY stuff. And it looks good too.

However, if I am to get it done through MASS, what will the cost be?

Also, will they do it in the first place and what about the warranty lapse issue if the same is done??

What has been your cost of installing the Tacho?
MASS may usually not entertain this job for a new car for obvious reasons for the fear of voiding the warranty though fitting the RITZ tacho by bringing it to life by merely connecting the proper RPM signal wire from the ECU harness that is at the back of the speedo console would involve a bit of skinning of the wire.

In reality, by installing a Tacho you are only 'utilizing' the unused rpm signal wire that causes no harm whatsoever.

You may first want to get the details of the wiring before further contemplating on the installation.

Otherwise, if you take the car to a good Electrician, the involves the following tasks:
  1. Open the Speedo console
  2. Skin the RPM signal wire from the connector at the back of it
  3. Connect the Tacho's RPM signal wire to it
  4. Power, Backlight and Ground the other 3 wires appropriately

You definitely don't want to go wrong with the second item in the list.

NOTE: Another option is to go for VXi Speedometer console that comes with a built in Tacho but will easily cost you more than 5-6k.

Last edited by paragsachania : 29th March 2013 at 18:25.
paragsachania is online now   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 1st April 2013, 18:17   #8
Senior - BHPian
 
arnabchak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: MH-04
Posts: 1,319
Thanked: 1,083 Times
Default Re: A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR

@Parag

Seems a long drawn DIY for me.

Will certainly need an external expert for the same. BTW, how much does the Ritz Tacho cost?
arnabchak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2013, 21:58   #9
BHPian
 
antardaksh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: delhi
Posts: 320
Thanked: 198 Times
Default Re: A 20,000 kms Update - Life with my Blue Eyed Boy, the Maruti WagonR

Hi,

Although the post is too old, this might help others.
Ritz tacho would cost around 1000 INR. When you order please check the part number to ensure you are ordering tacho from Ritz Petrol.

Regards.
antardaksh is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
An "adopted" Blue eyed boy: Pre-owned Maruti WagonR ashis89 Test-Drives & Initial Ownership Reports 82 20th November 2017 11:11
My Blue Eyed White Boy - Maruti Suzuki WagonR Vxi Dieseltuned Test-Drives & Initial Ownership Reports 25 29th December 2015 13:17
A Maruti WagonR Story - The blue eyed boy carzone Test-Drives & Initial Ownership Reports 40 5th July 2013 16:43
The Blue eyed boy (WagonR Lxi) comes home KameshR Test-Drives & Initial Ownership Reports 79 1st December 2011 22:39


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 20:56.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks