Tata Safari Dicor updated to 50000km - Page 8 - Team-BHP

nitinbhag · 22nd June 2006, 16:18

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

So in a straight line, there's no problem? .

Yes, as long as all 4 wheels are turning atthe same rate (which is straight line) there is no problem..

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

That would mean better traction off the blocks for a 4wd Safari.

You thinking of taking a 4WD Safari to a drag??

headers · 29th June 2006, 14:49

Hey steeroid,,

Does the Safari has enough power to do a powerslide as shown in the TV Ads..

headers · 29th June 2006, 18:31

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Originally Posted by Rtech

All that looks great on paper Steer, but that Indica engine is nasty, plain and simple. It is by far the worst engine I have ever experienced in an automobile!

I haven't driven the turbo'd one, but I'm not exactly holding my breath either.

guess you have never driven old Amby with Trekker diesel engines .. OR ARE RATHER NEW TO DIESEL DRIVING..
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headers · 29th June 2006, 18:39

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Steeroid, the Octavia is actually a common rail diesel. TDI is just their acronym for it.

If you are serious about the carbon-fibre, pm me. I'm experimenting with it for my youknowwhat!

Hey V1p3r,

PD is the acronym for their Common rail DIs..Which is used only in the Superb diesel engines..The others have Direct Injection Turbos.. and not Common rail..

sinhsha · 29th June 2006, 20:12

@ v1p3r and @headers
You both are some how wrong bros.
Neither octavia nor Superb is Common rain. Neither TDI nor PD is common rail. (BTW Laura has PD engine)
Volkswagen is walking a different path in diesel engine technology.
They are not doing common rail. The are following their own path (pump deuse) and instead of using a common rain to increase pressure and minimise losses of IDI or DI they are using single pump per cylinder.
So PD and CRDi are two completely diffrent technology.
And both works. Now which one is better is a question yet to be answered.
I hope I have explained things (I am pretty bad in explaining though ask my wife

).

Mpower · 29th June 2006, 21:39

Sinhsha, You are right on all counts except that the Superb 2.5 V6 uses a common rail (I'm almost sure).

VW has all three FI systems in use, but will be migrating to piezo common rail for the future.

jyobeb · 30th June 2006, 15:06

My Dicor has just crossed 15000 km and i thought I'd add my 2 bits worth. Engine is a godsend after the old anaemic TCIC 2 litre. I did 2 lakh km on my old Safari and moved onto the Dicor as nothing else really got me interested. Any person who drives a Safari will tell you that the Scorpio, old or new, just doesn't stack up. However the narrow power band is quite irritating, till you get used to it.
I've had my share of trouble with the EGR valve (Steer, all you need to do is disconnect the vacuum tube to close off the EGR totally, for a temporary fix. Engine check light stays off too) and got the modulator changed. I had a problem with my car snapping sideways under heavy braking and that was diagnosed as due to a blocked front brake line. Thats been fixed and brakings great again. The AC, as Steer said is just about adequate, and is pretty noisy at full blast, which is when it is also most effective.
My biggest complaint against this car is the rumbling at idle with the AC on. Reminds you of a jet plane on full brakes, waiting to take off .
The dealers however are being asked to take great care of Safari owners and not to be rigid on warranty claims. Good for us, I guess.
Overall, my kind of car and I'm very happy. The new price will make more people happier i guess. Oh and by the way the 6.4 lakh safari has the Dicor look and the TCIC engine. Don't go anywhere near it!!!

himanshugoswami · 30th June 2006, 15:32

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Sinhsha, You are right on all counts except that the Superb 2.5 V6 uses a common rail (I'm almost sure).

VW has all three FI systems in use, but will be migrating to piezo common rail for the future.

Sorry Mate, but the Superd uses a TDI engine and not a common rail one.

Check this out

http://www.skoda-auto.com/global/sho...rb/technology/

BTW, sorry for going off topic!

headers · 1st July 2006, 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinhsha

@ v1p3r and @headers
You both are some how wrong bros.
Neither octavia nor Superb is Common rain. Neither TDI nor PD is common rail. (BTW Laura has PD engine)
Volkswagen is walking a different path in diesel engine technology.
They are not doing common rail. The are following their own path (pump deuse) and instead of using a common rain to increase pressure and minimise losses of IDI or DI they are using single pump per cylinder.
So PD and CRDi are two completely diffrent technology.
And both works. Now which one is better is a question yet to be answered.
I hope I have explained things (I am pretty bad in explaining though ask my wife

).

Yup mate,
I agree that VW uses single pump per cyclinder. They are called unit injectors and i read somewhere [I guess Overdrive] that this is called PD which is VW's answer to common rail technology.

The funda is that CRDI uses a common rail which handles the boosted pressure. This rail feeds all the injectors,,whereas in unit injectors, each of the injectors has its own pump and plumbling is different.

Each is supposed to have its share of advantages and disadvantages..

Proxima · 19th July 2006, 11:40

The safari dicor site says that the engine is second generation.
Why? Has the engine been changed? Any idea?

nitinbhag · 2nd August 2006, 18:26

Latest... A friend bought a Safari Dicor VX in Chennai 2 weeks ago.. Within 2 days of delivery, the vehicle developed a long list of problems and is back at the garage where most things are being sorted out and some are taking a lot of time.. Will post details once I have an update..

kiranpashtakar · 4th August 2006, 14:46

Apparently the best way to get your new TATA vehicle delivered is to be physically present in the workshop when the PDC is being done. test drive get the corrections done. Any one buying a new tata Vehicle please be aware. Might not be applicable to all dealers.. Please use dicsretion

ravin · 18th August 2006, 10:32

Hi Guys!!

I am a newbie to BHP and have booked a Dicor at Prerana Bangalore.

Let me know good places to change tyres (want to change to 255 size on alloys) and fix a good comp system.

rkkoul · 18th August 2006, 11:58

After you changed all those spares in your Safari, I am wondering if you are still driving the same car that you originally bought!!

Rakesh

Steeroid · 18th August 2006, 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkkoul

After you changed all those spares in your Safari, I am wondering if you are still driving the same car that you originally bought!!

Rakesh

Why do you think they keep saying 'More car per car'?

29th June 2006, 14:49	#107 (permalink)
headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chennai..the city of cars.. Posts: 1,168	Hey steeroid,, Does the Safari has enough power to do a powerslide as shown in the TV Ads.. __________________ RWD Rocks!

29th June 2006, 21:39	#111 (permalink)
Mpower Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago/B'lore Posts: 3,700 View My Garage	Sinhsha, You are right on all counts except that the Superb 2.5 V6 uses a common rail (I'm almost sure). VW has all three FI systems in use, but will be migrating to piezo common rail for the future. __________________ The difference between the men and the boys....................is the speed of their toys. Last edited by Mpower : 29th June 2006 at 21:41.

30th June 2006, 15:06	#112 (permalink)
jyobeb BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 358	Dicor at 15K Km. My Dicor has just crossed 15000 km and i thought I'd add my 2 bits worth. Engine is a godsend after the old anaemic TCIC 2 litre. I did 2 lakh km on my old Safari and moved onto the Dicor as nothing else really got me interested. Any person who drives a Safari will tell you that the Scorpio, old or new, just doesn't stack up. However the narrow power band is quite irritating, till you get used to it. I've had my share of trouble with the EGR valve (Steer, all you need to do is disconnect the vacuum tube to close off the EGR totally, for a temporary fix. Engine check light stays off too) and got the modulator changed. I had a problem with my car snapping sideways under heavy braking and that was diagnosed as due to a blocked front brake line. Thats been fixed and brakings great again. The AC, as Steer said is just about adequate, and is pretty noisy at full blast, which is when it is also most effective. My biggest complaint against this car is the rumbling at idle with the AC on. Reminds you of a jet plane on full brakes, waiting to take off . The dealers however are being asked to take great care of Safari owners and not to be rigid on warranty claims. Good for us, I guess. Overall, my kind of car and I'm very happy. The new price will make more people happier i guess. Oh and by the way the 6.4 lakh safari has the Dicor look and the TCIC engine. Don't go anywhere near it!!! __________________ Live Life King Size! Last edited by jyobeb : 30th June 2006 at 15:11.

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29th June 2006, 20:12	#110 (permalink)
sinhsha Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 43	@ v1p3r and @headers You both are some how wrong bros. Neither octavia nor Superb is Common rain. Neither TDI nor PD is common rail. (BTW Laura has PD engine) Volkswagen is walking a different path in diesel engine technology. They are not doing common rail. The are following their own path (pump deuse) and instead of using a common rain to increase pressure and minimise losses of IDI or DI they are using single pump per cylinder. So PD and CRDi are two completely diffrent technology. And both works. Now which one is better is a question yet to be answered. I hope I have explained things (I am pretty bad in explaining though ask my wife ).

19th July 2006, 11:40	#115 (permalink)
Proxima BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 390	The safari dicor site says that the engine is second generation. Why? Has the engine been changed? Any idea?

2nd August 2006, 18:26	#116 (permalink)
nitinbhag BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 259	Latest... A friend bought a Safari Dicor VX in Chennai 2 weeks ago.. Within 2 days of delivery, the vehicle developed a long list of problems and is back at the garage where most things are being sorted out and some are taking a lot of time.. Will post details once I have an update..

4th August 2006, 14:46	#117 (permalink)
kiranpashtakar BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore/Hyderabad Posts: 205	Apparently the best way to get your new TATA vehicle delivered is to be physically present in the workshop when the PDC is being done. test drive get the corrections done. Any one buying a new tata Vehicle please be aware. Might not be applicable to all dealers.. Please use dicsretion

18th August 2006, 10:32	#118 (permalink)
ravin Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2	Hi Guys!! I am a newbie to BHP and have booked a Dicor at Prerana Bangalore. Let me know good places to change tyres (want to change to 255 size on alloys) and fix a good comp system.

18th August 2006, 11:58	#119 (permalink)
rkkoul Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14	After you changed all those spares in your Safari, I am wondering if you are still driving the same car that you originally bought!! Rakesh