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Old 31st January 2018, 23:47   #346
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True love knows no boundaries: Where there is a will, there has to be a way
Since when did this thread become sensible??

You guys should invest in a 3d printer, or at least try to get access to one. You guys should be able to make some hard to get parts/trims by 3d printing them.
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You guys should invest in a 3d printer, or at least try to get access to one. You guys should be able to make some hard to get parts/trims by 3d printing them.
I do have access to a 3D printer, but currently it's just for fun and learning new stuff, rather than seriously making something.

Only yesterday we were discussing about a new HL design for his M800 and this is what he came up with.

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Update time: There were some minor issues with my car, which were rectified yesterday.

Issue No 1: I felt that the vibrations on clutch pedal while leaving was a bit more. I mean it was so less that 90% mechanics and workshops dismissed it as normal thing in an 800. I know my car inside out, was therefore not convinced. My SA Mr. Dhiraj said it can be because of weak torsional springs of the clutch plate, but removing a gearbox for such a minor imperfection wasn't necessary.

2. Issue No 2: Weak Rear engine mount: During the crossmember change, we had noticed an almost shot engine mounting. But since getting access to rear one was cumbersome and time consuming, I decided to wait for some time.

So got the clutch plate, pressure plate and the rear engine mount changed yesterday. Clutch was some 80k old, but still had decent life. Changed it only because of weak springs.

Also, the day started with stripping BHPian Sumitsinha0280's 1992 M800. This car was sold in 2002, and retrieved back in 2011 after it was found abandoned, almost waiting to be scrapped. Then it was restored in a local FNG, and the work appeared fine initially, but actually it was badly tinkered and all rust spots were hidden by putty rather than solving the issue. So this time we have decided to go for the complete overhaul. All chassis panels will be replaced, rather than tinkered and then will be rust proofed in the best way possible using Zinc Primer and Epoxy. Also the engine and gearbox will be changed. Engine has done more than 4 lac kms and now it cannot be overhauled as the block's condition is very bad(was rebored once).

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My toolkit

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Stripping begins

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At MASS with GG

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5 Speed 800 uses the same clutch as WagonR 1.1

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Ceekay: @ Experts: What are your views on the hot topic: Valeo vs Ceekay? Which one is better??

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SGP Transmission mount

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Gearbox

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Shot rear engine mount

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Looks beautiful even when it's in air

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L to R: BHPian Sumit's stripped 800, my Golden goose and aspiring BHPian Aditya's Green 1998 M800

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Total Cost incurred: Rs. 3900. Labour was Rs. 1200 for the entire job.

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Ceekay: @ Experts: What are your views on the hot topic: Valeo vs Ceekay? Which one is better??
When it comes to Maruti and Petrol, I have had better experiences with Ceekay than Valeo.

I recollect having a thread on this topic as I had faced issues with Valeo that Ceekay solved it

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MGP clutch comes from 2 manufacturers - Valeo and Ceekay. Both have different design in terms of their diameters and the extent to which the cover assembly covers the plate.
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The one which was replaced and was giving prouble was Valeo.
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Clutch fixed now in 45 minutes, car started, service advisor moves the car for just 10 meters and comes out and says "Banni saar" with a smile and I needn't guess anything but realise that the issue was resolved.
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When it comes to Maruti and Petrol, I have had better experiences with Ceekay than Valeo.

I recollect having a thread on this topic as I had faced issues with Valeo that Ceekay solved it
Your experience was really a bad one. I asked my SA just now about his views, he said Ceekay is much better than Valeo for Alto/WagonR Clutches. They never install Valeo in any car even if they have in stock. He had some bad experiences with Valeo in past.

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They never install Valeo in any car even if they have in stock.
I guess more than just the bad experience, it was the ability to spot the smallest of difference which I was able to. A normal owner would be happy about the new clutch while I was scratching my head thinking something was amiss.

At least your post confirms my belief till now that for my WagonR, Ceekay was the best fit; So thanks for the reassurance. I don't even know when the next clutch replacement is due. I drove it just yesterday and it passed the 'ramp test' in 2nd gear so I am sure the clutch is certainly in good shape. That also confirms that my better half is able to take care of it like I did .
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Vandalised

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Someone has used sand paper or something abrasive while the car was parked outside. I tried polishing but it was of no use.

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Someone has used sand paper or something abrasive while the car was parked outside. I tried polishing but it was of no use.
Oh dear! I know how it must feel. I really hate these lousy people.

So sorry to read about this. Do you intend to get the bonnet painted?
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Do you intend to get the bonnet painted?
That's what everyone recommended. I first showed it to a FNG nearby if it can be fixed. They said the scratches are too deep and the shine is gone too.

I was somehow not convinced. This is the process I followed:

1. Wet sanded the entire hood with 2000 grit sandpaper. The hood turned extremely dull.

2. Kept all detailing stuff in my car's boot and drove to a friend's washing centre who has a Rotary polisher.

3. He was shocked, and said he doesn't believe if it can be restored. I was anyways mentally prepared for a new paint job, so decided to try myself.

4. Using different cutting and polishing pads, this is the order of products I followed: 3M finesse it, Scratch out, Meguiar's Ultimate Compound, Meguiar's Ultimate Polish and finally, the good old Collinite 845.

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Your's truly in command of the polishing machine. I was so tensed that only after the shine came back, I realised that I had forgotten to change.

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Mirror finish after all 5 passes

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In some other news, did some upgrades: 800 gets a spindly grab handle with exposed screws. I wanted a meaty one, with hidden screws. Retractable ones like the current gen cars need some mods, which I didn't want. So finally, I got one, from the Maruti stable.

Original factory fit handles

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New chunky ones

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Cleaned the headliner and the handle

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With........

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Looks nice now

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Some stupidity on tappet cover.

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That's what everyone recommended. I first showed it to a FNG nearby if it can be fixed. They said the scratches are too deep and the shine is gone too.

I was somehow not convinced. This is the process I followed:
1. Wet sanded the entire hood with 2000 grit sandpaper. The hood turned extremely dull.

4. Using different cutting and polishing pads, this is the order of products I followed: 3M finesse it, Scratch out, Meguiar's Ultimate Compound, Meguiar's Ultimate Polish and finally, the good old Collinite 845.

Your's truly in command of the polishing machine. I was so tensed that only after the shine came back, I realised that I had forgotten to change
Bravo!! Superb job! Heck you ought to get into the detailing business. Believe me you have what it takes and possess far more talent than what I see at these local 3M stores.

And yeah those Megs and Collinite products are really worth the price.

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All good but what's with this 'zuki'.

I think you never missed the extra cylinder so badly. Apart from the extra CCs, it could have really helped accommodating the 'Su'

I see a masking tape on the fender line to bonnet in the 'vanadalised' picture. You took the picture after starting the repair job?

Great work nonetheless.

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I think you never missed the extra cylinder so badly. Apart from the extra CCs, it could have really helped accommodating the 'Su'
True Nevertheless, often people affectionately call these machines as Zukis.


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I see a masking tape on the fender line to bonnet in the 'vanadalised' picture. You took the picture after starting the repair job?
Immediately after reaching home, I started masking etc. Tried polishing by hand, but it didn't work. After that I posted the Vandalised update

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