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Old 23rd February 2017, 13:58   #31
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I thought it'd be fun to compare how a much older and frequently used/battered Jetta (LA traffic is awful) looks, so I've attached a picture of mine. I think the fact that yours, at 37k, still looks brand spanking new and mine, at ~2.5x that, looks fresh despite all my college-student-shenanigans is amazing. It's really a testament to how well they build them.
Attachment 1611890

My car also comes with a rather interesting 2.5 inline 5 engine producing about 170 horse. Not much remapping potential there outside of turbocharging but I've seen some mean aftermarket exhausts. and fat rubber on a few. Watch out for your car's barometric sensor though, a lot of Mk6's have check engine lights randomly turn on because of some sort of software glitch in that. If it happens, don't panic and just restart your car.
One fun fact: I noticed that your service at 30,000 cost about Rs. 4500. My car's 60k mile (97,000 km) service, a relatively simple one involving an oil change and a few other minor jobs pretty similar to yours, cost over Rs. 20,000 ($300) NOT including labor! This is the first car I've ever been completely responsible for so unsure if that's reasonable, but it sounds frightfully expensive to me. Also my car came with drum brakes at the back, only the GLI came with discs all round in 2011.
Your car still looks as good as new. Kudos to you for maintaining it that way.

Completely agree with what you have said sir. In fact, I have seen Jettas advertised on many sites which have done 1,30,000+ Kms and still look as good as new. Jetta owners swear by the build and I never doubt that at all. It's just the scratches on the car which bother me (unavoidable in barodian traffic)

The 2.5 inline is a relatively old one in the VAG group, but hey N/A petrols have a charm of their own. For some reasons, I like the way N/A petrols deliever torque in a linear manner. The GLI is a monster in every sense. The 2.0 TFSI petrol comes second in my wishlist after the 1.8 TSI. The Germans are indeed masters at making good petrol engines.

The service bill I have attached is only for the consumables. The total cost comes to around INR. 15,000 to 16,000 (as I have listed in the review) including labour and certain other customary checks. As of now, the only two things that don't work are

-the broken rear A/C vent (They are asking me to change both vents for Rs. 800, so decided to live with it)

-Window switch wiring gone loose for the front passenger (Will get it fixed at the next check up)

Also agree to the fact that Volkswagen does charge a bomb for servicing especially once you cross the 50K mark. I am thus on the lookout for a good professional garage now. Besides, they are very inefficient and take their own sweet time in sorting out even minor issues that the car has given until now.

Do keep me updated about your car as well.

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Nice write-up! Your way with words is good. Keep it up.
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That was a really great review @vishy76.

You have great writing skills. Really liked the way the small details were highlighted.

Wish you lots of happy miles with your Silver Sprinter.
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Vishy76, your review is very good. And that too for a 15 year old. Colour me impressed. Your enthusiasm and attention to what makes a good review show up here. Well done & thanks for sharing!
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Hey Vishy76, Very nice write up of a Beautiful Car

Your review clearly shows the passion you have towards automobiles.

Such a beautiful review at this age, man that's something to be proud of.

And here I am , double the age and getting team-bhp infractions for 'poor spelling and grammer' (Envy Envy ! )
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Thanks for the compliments everyone. I have a small query which needs sorting out here.

I have recently noticed that the Jetta idles at about 950 rpm when fully warmed up and a 1000 before that, all of which seemed normal.

However, I have also noticed that the car has now been idling a bit rough and the rpms vary even when the engine is up to temperature.

The car first seems to idle at around 940-950 rpm which seems normal and then suddenly shoots up to 1000 rpm but doesn't exceed this limit. The engine seems to idle rough and sounds a bit unrefined at 1000 rpm. Anything to worry about here? I have especially noticed this after the recall.

It would be great if any Jetta owner or an expert could shed some light on this. I will notify the S.A at the checkup if possible.
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Update 40,000 Km

So here we are then. Thanks to the fact that we haven't been able to find a beater yet, the Jetta has been doing the city duty for us. This means that the 40,000 Km has been breached by the Jetta sooner than I did have imagined. There's a laundry list of things I want to say about the car, but we will first start off with what has changed in the past 3,000 odd Km.

Tyres changed from stock Goodyear to Michelin p3st 205/55 91W

By far the most substantial change of all has to be the tyres. The stock goodyears had become rock hard and were wreaking havoc in the cabin with their road noise and more importantly the vibrations. Went to the nearest tyre dealer on a lazy Saturday afternoon and drove out with a set of brand new Michelin p3st tyres. Asking price was 9K per tyre, I for the first time in my life bargained and brought the price down to 8.8K and also made alignment and balancing free!

Cost per tyre: 8.8 K for a set of 4 (wheel alignment and balancing along with nitrogen was all free)

I was most surprised with the condition of the Goodyear. Although the sidewalls were intact and the tread could last another 3,000 Km, the tyres had a total of 6 nails lodged in them

One of them was the size of a hex bolt.

Wheel alignment and balancing was about to be done, when I actually came out a bit surprised. It had been 10,000 Km since the aligning had been done but the wheels didn't need aligning at all.

Tyre dealer: " Saar your wheel alignment is spot on. No need to touch the settings at all"

Either ways, the p3st have transformed the NVH levels and the ride quality is a bit more pliant over the sharper bumps. The NVH levels have truly improved by leaps and bounds.



Issues faced till now

- the suspension seems to be a bit loose after 40,000 Km and the frequency of thudding has increased. Maybe a few bolts that need torquing here.

- the climate control sensor seems to have popped out of its housing. A known issue amongst jetta owners. Will get it fixed at the inspection.

- bonnet release lever feels slightly lose. Maybe a loose bolt or something

Apart from these very minor and forgivable gremlins, the car has been serving us very well for the past 2 years it has been with us. (Touchwood)

Coming to the service inspection, I have decided to go in for a full service in the next few weeks as the car will most probably be taken to Goa. So I will be looking to change all the consumables and also get the minor issues sorted out. Be ready for a lengthy travelogue bhpians.

After a long wait, the Jetta gets the tyres it deserved in the first place:
Our Silver Sprinter -  Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 TDI. EDIT: 44,000 km up-20170415_1317202304x1296.jpg

The valves were also changed. Look pretty cool now:
Our Silver Sprinter -  Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 TDI. EDIT: 44,000 km up-20170415_1317473456x1944.jpg

The tyres do sag a wee bit thanks to the softer sidewall:
Our Silver Sprinter -  Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 TDI. EDIT: 44,000 km up-20170415_1330192304x1296.jpg

The engine bay remains squeaky clean. All thanks to my OCD when it comes to cleanliness:
Our Silver Sprinter -  Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 TDI. EDIT: 44,000 km up-20170415_1326253456x1944.jpg

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Thanks for the compliments everyone. I have a small query which needs sorting out here.

I have recently noticed that the Jetta idles at about 950 rpm when fully warmed up and a 1000 before that, all of which seemed normal.

However, I have also noticed that the car has now been idling a bit rough and the rpms vary even when the engine is up to temperature.

The car first seems to idle at around 940-950 rpm which seems normal and then suddenly shoots up to 1000 rpm but doesn't exceed this limit. The engine seems to idle rough and sounds a bit unrefined at 1000 rpm. Anything to worry about here? I have especially noticed this after the recall.

It would be great if any Jetta owner or an expert could shed some light on this. I will notify the S.A at the checkup if possible.
There was a discussion on some other thread about shooting up rpm randomly and it seems that this has to do with DPF and its normal.
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It's been a long time since I have updated the thread. So, yes apologies to all for this. I was busy in prepping up another ownership review on the assembly line (more on that later).

The car is due to be serviced on Monday at the earliest or the weekend by latest. It has only done 43K, but majority of the last few km have been within the city involving frequent short journeys, so asked dad to get it serviced sooner this time. I have prepared a list of things that I am going to ask them to address:

- Thud sound coming from the suspension. Not the normal thud, but a metallic one instead. Similar to the sound of two metals hitting each other. The car still drives and rides perfectly though.

- Low pitch humming at a speed of around 50 km/hr. This might again be related to the first issue wherein a suspension linkage might be loose and need lubrication. Both the sounds can only be noticed at the rear and if you concentrate hard with a keen ear.

- Clean the brake pads and check them for life. The brakes are doing very well, but just incase.

- Change the alternator belt as it gives out a chic-chic sound on a very cold start. The sound persists for only half a second, but the car is now nearing 45K, so better to get it changed.

Michelin P3ST

I had upgraded to Michelins as mentioned in the previous post. Its been 3.5K km and I must say they are doing their job very well. The only thing I hate about them is that they are prone to catching minute stones. They are very silent and also have excellent wet grip. My dad loves them.

New member in the family

Amidst a lot of chaos in my life, Raydon arrived to join the Jetta in the garage. I am happy that the Jetta is finally freed from the constant torture that our roads throw at it. The Kwid will take car of the same.

The Jetta will be limited to highway runs and long drives, as I find the Kwid to be pathetic for the same due to its soft rear seats.

A pic of the new member and the Jetta's half brother:
Our Silver Sprinter -  Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 TDI. EDIT: 44,000 km up-20170630_173319.jpg

I will be updating the thread once the service is completed. Until then,

ciao,
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Hey Vishy,
Congratulations on the new K(W)ID and hope that you and your dad put some good amount of miles on it. Hoping that it's the 1.0 under the hood. Expecting an ownership report for this baby.

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Hey Vishy,
Congratulations on the new K(W)ID and hope that you and your dad put some good amount of miles on it. Hoping that it's the 1.0 under the hood. Expecting an ownership report for this baby.

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Haha. Yeah. The kwid's ownership review is coming up around early next month.

It is a 1.0 underneath there, and an AMT as well. It's primarily meant for my mom, not for highway drives. The sprinter will do that.

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44K update

It's been a long time since I have updated the thread and I apologise for that. Exams and other commitments kept me away from this thread, but not the car itself.

A lot has happened in the past 44K. So, here's a summary after around 2.5 years.

What I liked so far:
- Indestructible build. Never seems to age at all
- 2.0 TDI + 6 speed manual are a match made in heaven
- A practical runabout with loads of space
- Solid handling and excellent driving dynamics
- Safety as standard: 6 Airbags, TCS, ESP etc.

What I didn't like so far:
- RCD 300+ HU feels too damn dated now. No USB or Bluetooth sucks for a 20 lakh exec saloon
- No choice of an explosive petrol. The Octavia would have had a hard time if VW would have plonked the 1.8 TSI into this car
- No DSG Comfortline
- Feature list was too sparse and feels even worse today


Bad news first

To put it shortly, paint fell on the car when it was in its new parking spot. The link to the issue can be found here:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...t-spots-3.html (Removing Cement Spots)



44K km service

The eagle eyed ones of you might say that the scheduled service is at 45K for VW cars, but decided to get the car serviced early as it had been used extensively for short trips and there was a weird noise coming from the rear right.

Booked a service appointment with VW Automark, Vadodara. Called them on a Saturday once but no one answered at all. Either ways, dismissed it as a one off case and booked an appointment 4-5 days later. Also asked for a pick up and drop which was now available.

Following were the issues reported:

- Check rear right suspension for humming noise over rough gravel roads

- Change the pollen filter and clean the A/C vents as they were full of dust

- Do a general underbody check and change the alternator belt if required

That was it really. Didn't have any other issue, major or minor to report at all.

The mechanic came in on a Wednesday and picked the car up. He didn't seem to be keeping well and was ill actually. Either ways, he insisted that its not an issue and took the car.

My dad recieved a call the very same day with the service estimate and the expected time to be taken. He said he could return the car earlier, but didn't want them to hurry as I had the Kwid as a second car.

The car was back the next day. Interestingly, the mechanic was inquisitive to know about Team BHP and what we do, so gave him a brief while my dad completed the formalities.

I was in for a surprise when I saw that the interiors were squeaky clean. My dad had gone in for the 3M germkleen and they had done an excellent job indeed. He also got a feedback call unlike before VW's after sales is definitely improving.

He total service bill inclusive of the Germkleen at a discounted rate came to 17.1K.

Without the Germkleen, it is somewhere in the ballpark of 14.5 to 15K. One thing to note is that they waived off the pick up and drop charge.

All in all, I will give them a 4.5/5 stars. Would have given them 5 if they could have done away with certain unnecessary things.

The issue of the peculiar hum was checked and nothing was found wrong.

Enough of talking. Here are some shots.

The car had exactly 43.9K on the clock when it came back from the service:
Our Silver Sprinter -  Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 TDI. EDIT: 44,000 km up-20170824_1914164561x2566.jpg

The Engine air filter was changed...
Our Silver Sprinter -  Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 TDI. EDIT: 44,000 km up-20170903_1457282566x4562.jpg

And so was the pollen filter:
Our Silver Sprinter -  Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 TDI. EDIT: 44,000 km up-20170903_1457414561x2566.jpg

The Michelin P3St had a puncture when a nail pierced through the rear right one on a trip to Rajkot. This is the first puncture in the last 6.5K km:
Our Silver Sprinter -  Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 TDI. EDIT: 44,000 km up-20170903_1456204561x2566.jpg

The 3M germkleen surpassed expectations
Our Silver Sprinter -  Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 TDI. EDIT: 44,000 km up-20170824_1915294561x2566.jpg

Our Silver Sprinter -  Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 TDI. EDIT: 44,000 km up-20170824_1914244561x2566.jpg

Still has 140 horses and is one of the most powerful manuals around:
Our Silver Sprinter -  Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 TDI. EDIT: 44,000 km up-20170904_221741.jpg

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