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Old 13th November 2008, 16:54   #106
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Good you car is back on track.

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the cost part:
1) Cover Assy. Clutch - 826.67
2) Disc Comp. Clutch - 905.78
3) Bearing Clutch Release - 515.56
4) Cable Clutch - 198.42
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Total (with VAT) - 2903.66 (also included about Rs120 on Oil seal, pin, ring, petrol etc)

Labour Charges:
1) Gear Box remove / Refitted - 500
2) Clutch Overhaul - 250
3) Drive Shaft Oil seal Replace - 80
4) Clutch cable - 120
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Total (with Tax) - 1067.42
Very interesting information... only 3 days diff, My car clutch also went for overhaul . I am told that 5 speed 800 shares the clutch with Alto but
very different billing (total is almost the same) for clutch over haul..

parts
*) Flywheel - 686/-
*) input shaft bearing - 110/-
*) clutch set, alto, modi - 1765/-
*) clutch release bearing - 515/-
*) clutch cable - 168/-

Labour
*) just one line -- Clutch Overhaul 1047/-

Plus taxes.

Total - 4960 /- (~250/- for blinker set )

So much difference.
Looks like Somebody got ripped by Mandovi Motors
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So much difference.
Looks like Somebody got ripped by Mandovi Motors
So now you know where to go next time for Service in Bangalore for your M800.
Plus I witnessed the clutch overhaul infront of my eyes which you cannot in Mandovi.

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Old 16th November 2008, 17:56   #108
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Clutch wear in city driving in not uncommon. It happens in 20-30K kms to many who do city driving
Yes, this can be quite common, considering that many drive their cars in heavy stop-and-go traffic enroute to office in the morning and back home in the evening.

Perhaps, one way for us to save our machinery would be to avoid peak hour traffic by leaving a little earlier than scheduled. Sedate motoring in the city will not only preserve the machinery, but also improve fuel economy of our vehicles.

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Yes, this can be quite common, considering that many drive their cars in heavy stop-and-go traffic enroute to office in the morning and back home in the evening...
I was driving 22kms, everyday, for 1.5 years in very bad bumper-to-bumper traffic in Bangalore and my vehicle has so far done 55k kms.

Never faced any clutch problem so far and have just followed the normal 5k service interval.

So, unless the driving was done with a major clutch'ing, I do not understand an early clutch wear out.

But, yes, for the last 5k kms or so, I have notice that I get a shudder when I take the vehicle up a slope from stand-still.
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I was driving 22kms, everyday, for 1.5 years in very bad bumper-to-bumper traffic in Bangalore and my vehicle has so far done 55k kms. So, unless the driving was done with a major clutch'ing, I do not understand an early clutch wear out.
Yes, i agree, constant usage of the clutch (clutching & de-clutching) will lead to rapid wear of the clutch. But like Abhi's mechanic mentioned, there was no sign of the clutch wearing out so early. Perhaps this is a one off case.

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Yes, i agree, constant usage of the clutch (clutching & de-clutching) will lead to rapid wear of the clutch. But like Abhi's mechanic mentioned, there was no sign of the clutch wearing out so early. Perhaps this is a one off case.

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Moreover I was upset of the fact that my style of driving should preserve the clutch more and more. I hardly do clutch drive. Always put first gear and heardly use clutch and higher gears for pickup. Also Lokesh was so surprised that he told did I give my car to somebody else for driving.

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Also Lokesh was so surprised that he told did I give my car to somebody else for driving.
I understand what you mean Abhi. Sometimes, these things just can't be prevented. My Santro's clutch gave way in just the same way as yours at 23,000 KMS on the odo. Thankfully, it was replaced under warranty.

Considering that you didn't even feel any sign of it going to snap, any idea on how to prevent such occurances in the future?

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Considering that you didn't even feel any sign of it going to snap, any idea on how to prevent such occurances in the future?
I asked the same question to Lokesh and he couldnt reply. Infact he was repeatedly saying that he never suspected the clutch even in the last test drive. he usually checks the clutch in every 5K km. He test drives my car with and without AC both initially and after service and I also go with him.

I dont know whether the Lot of clutch used that time was wrong coz the present clutch design was very different that what was in the car.

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I dont know whether the Lot of clutch used that time was wrong coz the present clutch design was very different that what was in the car.
One of M.A.S.S. guys once told me that all pre-2006(or was it 2007?) models had a faulty clutch assembly design which they rectified later.
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One of M.A.S.S. guys once told me that all pre-2006(or was it 2007?) models had a faulty clutch assembly design which they rectified later.
Yup all pre 2006 cars had a problem. Mine was replaced at 3000kms.
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Is there anyway i can upgrade the manual PS of my alto(2001) to EPS ? If so, could you please suggest a place and also the approx. cost for the same ?
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One of M.A.S.S. guys once told me that all pre-2006(or was it 2007?) models had a faulty clutch assembly design which they rectified later.
I was told by a Maruti territory service manager that it even got into cars from 2006-2007. Maruti never openly accepted the fact, maybe due to fear of a recall, considering Alto happens to be the largest selling car. I suspected mine to be one of those. But after 26K+ kms of hard chennai driving, I dont have major issues with clutch except for some tightness compared to the new feeling. Squeaks and rattles is all what is bothering me.

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Is there anyway i can upgrade the manual PS of my alto(2001) to EPS ? If so, could you please suggest a place and also the approx. cost for the same ?
Did Alto come with a Hydraulic PS ever?

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One of M.A.S.S. guys once told me that all pre-2006(or was it 2007?) models had a faulty clutch assembly design which they rectified later.
We have a 2004 alto and it is still going strong at 40 K on the original clutch. It has been primarily driven within city with a few long distance trips. So I do not think it can be generalised that all cars before 2006 had a clutch problem.
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Did Alto come with a Hydraulic PS ever?
yes, itz of 2001 vintage and the model is LX.
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yes, itz of 2001 vintage and the model is LX.
Nope Alto never came with hydraulic PS. It was always EPS.
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