Swift VDi ownership: A Running report - Page 23 - Team-BHP

GeekSrik · 28th November 2007, 12:40

25.5 kmpl is an awesome mileage on highways with similar loads! guess your tyres are not 195! i maintained by rpm below 3k. and maybe due to shell fuel, my mileage is dropping to ~ 18.

Rocky_Balboa · 28th November 2007, 12:51

GeekSrik,

I stuck to IOC regular and especially after BUSA s advice, never would go for premium fuels.

btw I run 195 profile tyres

and I have checked my fuel efficiency twice on highways and got the following results.
1) 23.5
2) 25.5

Do you find any improvement in response or smoke from using shell?

GeekSrik · 28th November 2007, 13:48

thanks for answering me. its strange why I got only 18kmpl with same tyres and same loads. with shell the response is much more linear and I get better pull too. but other than that nothing else!

RufRoc · 29th November 2007, 09:28

@GeekSrik: Have you tried experimenting with different air pressure? From my experience, I feel having a bit more air in the front tyre (due to the engine load in a diesel) is advisable especially on the highway. Could even make a slight difference in your mileage figures, for the better.

Rocky_Balboa · 29th November 2007, 12:21

GeekSrik, RufRoc could be right.
Why not change the PSIs and check mileage with same shell again.

Jaggu · 29th November 2007, 21:05

yup swift d is sensitive to psi when it comes to FE with wider rubber and front require more psi, keep a 2 psi diff between F n R for good handling.

GeekSrik · 30th November 2007, 07:14

is this only for highway or can i use that for city too? strangely I didnt know about this! also could anyone let me know what all should be done for second free service? also about synthetic oil and stuff....

srikanth

Rocky_Balboa · 30th November 2007, 08:24

GeekSrik,

You can maintain the same for city too, but i guess the ride will be a bit harsh in potholed roads. I try to keep 32 all around in city.

Dont think of synthetic oils until 10k is done (am not an expert but got the expert advice here)

condor · 30th November 2007, 08:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

keep a 2 psi diff between F n R for good handling.

Jaggu, guess front would have a higher PSI reading. Pls confirm.

Jaggu · 30th November 2007, 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by condor

Jaggu, guess front would have a higher PSI reading. Pls confirm.

Yes front at 34 and rear at 32 for my car, for city and highway. and no it the rear that starts to jump around when you increase the psi.

GeekSrik · 18th December 2007, 10:31

alright, I ve finished another 1.1k kms with this car and it still fails to get tired . Also I have had no surprises with this car too. The ride has been good, the engine is getting too noisy at 100 kmph now, am not sure why.

Other than that I had taken it to mysore and back almost 350kms and there was no indication of it being sluggish too. it just performed like what its supposed to - a dream!

am awaiting my third free service and would like to hear from all of you what should be done and what not for this 10k service which is coming up. the rattles are a feature you see, so i ve left them untouched for now.

but this car has given me other things too, vertigo (ear fluid imbalance leading to severe dizziness and faints), knee and backache to some extent, though I would say driver seat is pretty good. The sound of the engine drives me crazy sometimes and I am forced to play music in an otherwise silent car. the suspension is a bit hard and inmates of the jail can feel the bumps

I ll have to try and make this car quieter somehow. would anyone know how to reduce NVH further, have anyone done any mods to this car for this purpose? Pete's is something I d love to install but sometime later on! the windows sure make me claustrophobic if closed always.

Eddy · 18th December 2007, 10:36

Someone suggested Damping to reduce NVH. But I think it will cost close to 10K

GeekSrik · 18th December 2007, 11:18

dyu know anyone who does this very well in bangalore?

srik

CrAzY dRiVeR · 18th December 2007, 13:52

Please go through this thread, if you already haven't. Hope it'll help.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/produc...ping+dampening (The Damping Material and Sound Deadener Thread)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy

Someone suggested Damping to reduce NVH. But I think it will cost close to 10K

GeekSrik · 1st January 2008, 19:28

Another 1000 lapped up and the odo reads 8200 km+. At this stage I am gearing up for the third service, so its perhaps an apt time to pout out my woes with this car and ask for expert advice.

1. The engine has a hoarse noise anything above 70kmph speed, and the distinct roar (i even wonder if i can call it that) gets more prominent around 80+ and irritates at 100kmph

I need to know if an oil change would bring down this noise by any chance or anything more needs to be done

2. The oil change itself - I need to know whether any special oil needs to be used (sorry but i need the name, and quantity - i am bad at this! - mobil ? synthetic? .... ??)

3. Soapy layer on windscreen - While casually talking with my friend who owns a swift and had the same problem, I believe it was traced to the windscreen water tube having lots of foam within it which forms a frothy layer and brings it on each time you spray water (even if the water has been changed) and i believe i hear the only way to correct this is to change the tube that leads upto windshield. any options here?

4. Foul smelling Ac at times - of late i have observed at times the AC smells a bit foul and the only thing I do is to down the windows and take in air before I pull them up again. I am not sure why this is occuring but its not really the sulphur kinda foul smell, its more the plasticky kinda smell but whatever it is its awful enough but lasts for quite less a time.

5. I installed the neck supports on each head rests (the TYPE-R ones) but I fail to understand what exactly its purpose is, as a driver my neck hardly rests on the headrest and even if it does the neck support hardly helps.

Perhaps the biggest three cons I didnt like with this car are (there are more to say even then):

1. Rattles Rattles Creaks and Rattles
2. Hard suspension gives a throw around each time
3. The car by itself is quite claustrophobic - gives you a feeling of being choked in a closed dungeon

More: 4. bad rear space, even two people have a problem sitting freely with legs stretched out, wonder which car satisfies that atleast?

To sum it up - good FE, stiff ride, coarse engine, claustrophobic car, quite some body roll and free rattles.

28th November 2007, 12:40	#331 (permalink)
GeekSrik BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 849 View My Garage	25.5 kmpl is an awesome mileage on highways with similar loads! guess your tyres are not 195! i maintained by rpm below 3k. and maybe due to shell fuel, my mileage is dropping to ~ 18. __________________ blog.chowchowbath.com the Bengaluru blog

28th November 2007, 12:51	#332 (permalink)
Rocky_Balboa BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 166 View My Garage	GeekSrik, I stuck to IOC regular and especially after BUSA s advice, never would go for premium fuels. btw I run 195 profile tyres and I have checked my fuel efficiency twice on highways and got the following results. 1) 23.5 2) 25.5 Do you find any improvement in response or smoke from using shell? __________________ It ain't 'bout how hard you hit; it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward - Sly in Rocky Balboa.

28th November 2007, 13:48	#333 (permalink)
GeekSrik BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 849 View My Garage	thanks for answering me. its strange why I got only 18kmpl with same tyres and same loads. with shell the response is much more linear and I get better pull too. but other than that nothing else! __________________ blog.chowchowbath.com the Bengaluru blog

29th November 2007, 09:28	#334 (permalink)
RufRoc BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 133	@GeekSrik: Have you tried experimenting with different air pressure? From my experience, I feel having a bit more air in the front tyre (due to the engine load in a diesel) is advisable especially on the highway. Could even make a slight difference in your mileage figures, for the better. __________________ Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves coz they'll never cease to be amused.

29th November 2007, 12:21	#335 (permalink)
Rocky_Balboa BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 166 View My Garage	GeekSrik, RufRoc could be right. Why not change the PSIs and check mileage with same shell again. __________________ It ain't 'bout how hard you hit; it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward - Sly in Rocky Balboa.

29th November 2007, 21:05	#336 (permalink)
Jaggu Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,674	yup swift d is sensitive to psi when it comes to FE with wider rubber and front require more psi, keep a 2 psi diff between F n R for good handling. __________________ The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference. -Calvin

30th November 2007, 07:14	#337 (permalink)
GeekSrik BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 849 View My Garage	is this only for highway or can i use that for city too? strangely I didnt know about this! also could anyone let me know what all should be done for second free service? also about synthetic oil and stuff.... srikanth __________________ blog.chowchowbath.com the Bengaluru blog

30th November 2007, 08:24	#338 (permalink)
Rocky_Balboa BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 166 View My Garage	GeekSrik, You can maintain the same for city too, but i guess the ride will be a bit harsh in potholed roads. I try to keep 32 all around in city. Dont think of synthetic oils until 10k is done (am not an expert but got the expert advice here) __________________ It ain't 'bout how hard you hit; it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward - Sly in Rocky Balboa.

18th December 2007, 10:31	#341 (permalink)
GeekSrik BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 849 View My Garage	7700 kms and counting .... alright, I ve finished another 1.1k kms with this car and it still fails to get tired . Also I have had no surprises with this car too. The ride has been good, the engine is getting too noisy at 100 kmph now, am not sure why. Other than that I had taken it to mysore and back almost 350kms and there was no indication of it being sluggish too. it just performed like what its supposed to - a dream! am awaiting my third free service and would like to hear from all of you what should be done and what not for this 10k service which is coming up. the rattles are a feature you see, so i ve left them untouched for now. but this car has given me other things too, vertigo (ear fluid imbalance leading to severe dizziness and faints), knee and backache to some extent, though I would say driver seat is pretty good. The sound of the engine drives me crazy sometimes and I am forced to play music in an otherwise silent car. the suspension is a bit hard and inmates of the jail can feel the bumps I ll have to try and make this car quieter somehow. would anyone know how to reduce NVH further, have anyone done any mods to this car for this purpose? Pete's is something I d love to install but sometime later on! the windows sure make me claustrophobic if closed always. __________________ blog.chowchowbath.com the Bengaluru blog

18th December 2007, 10:36	#342 (permalink)
Eddy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 966	Someone suggested Damping to reduce NVH. But I think it will cost close to 10K __________________ Car is no longer a luxury; parking space is.

18th December 2007, 11:18	#343 (permalink)
GeekSrik BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 849 View My Garage	dyu know anyone who does this very well in bangalore? srik __________________ blog.chowchowbath.com the Bengaluru blog

1st January 2008, 19:28	#345 (permalink)
GeekSrik BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 849 View My Garage	8200 kms and going towards third free service Another 1000 lapped up and the odo reads 8200 km+. At this stage I am gearing up for the third service, so its perhaps an apt time to pout out my woes with this car and ask for expert advice. 1. The engine has a hoarse noise anything above 70kmph speed, and the distinct roar (i even wonder if i can call it that) gets more prominent around 80+ and irritates at 100kmph I need to know if an oil change would bring down this noise by any chance or anything more needs to be done 2. The oil change itself - I need to know whether any special oil needs to be used (sorry but i need the name, and quantity - i am bad at this! - mobil ? synthetic? .... ??) 3. Soapy layer on windscreen - While casually talking with my friend who owns a swift and had the same problem, I believe it was traced to the windscreen water tube having lots of foam within it which forms a frothy layer and brings it on each time you spray water (even if the water has been changed) and i believe i hear the only way to correct this is to change the tube that leads upto windshield. any options here? 4. Foul smelling Ac at times - of late i have observed at times the AC smells a bit foul and the only thing I do is to down the windows and take in air before I pull them up again. I am not sure why this is occuring but its not really the sulphur kinda foul smell, its more the plasticky kinda smell but whatever it is its awful enough but lasts for quite less a time. 5. I installed the neck supports on each head rests (the TYPE-R ones) but I fail to understand what exactly its purpose is, as a driver my neck hardly rests on the headrest and even if it does the neck support hardly helps. Perhaps the biggest three cons I didnt like with this car are (there are more to say even then): 1. Rattles Rattles Creaks and Rattles 2. Hard suspension gives a throw around each time 3. The car by itself is quite claustrophobic - gives you a feeling of being choked in a closed dungeon More: 4. bad rear space, even two people have a problem sitting freely with legs stretched out, wonder which car satisfies that atleast? To sum it up - good FE, stiff ride, coarse engine, claustrophobic car, quite some body roll and free rattles. __________________ blog.chowchowbath.com the Bengaluru blog

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