Swift VDI (ABS) - Ownership Report EDIT: Done 20,000 kms (4th Service done) - Page 3 - Team-BHP

akshay1234 · 3rd October 2007, 15:48

when you shift to neutral and the rpm shoots up make sure your foot is completely off the accelerator when shifting.

the windscreen washer jets can be adjusted by you. just take a pin and with trial and error get the right adjustment.

Jaggu · 3rd October 2007, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy

[/b]- The car pulls towards the left slightly and I think I will get the wheel balancing done at the first service to see if there is improvement.

wheel alignment check, NOT wheel balancing

- Turbo - I do not see any appreciable and noticeable surge of power at 2000 rpm. It was very remarkable during the TDs but not in my car. Any idea whats wrong ? Me slightly worried.

since you are runnin in you might be taking it gentle and hence not ckick in the back feel

- The car surges ahead when being driven in the 2nd gear, even at low rpm. Is there an ECU issue here ? During bumper to bumper traffic, when I downshift from 2 to nuetral, The rpm suddenly shoots up when I press the clutch. Can someone please expalin ?

its the torque converter, you will get used to it soon

- The windscreen water jet only shoots water up to just below the middle of the windscreen. Is this normal ?

i guess so, the water spray should cover the wiper blade movement area, thats the idea

Overall Verdict: Its a damn good car, touchwood and I am loving it

Edit: Moderators, can you please change the title of the thread and 700 km update

enjoy the drive

and the reply are inline

Eddy · 3rd October 2007, 16:24

@ Jaggu

I tried several times, there is no change at all when I move from 1800 to 2500 rpm in the power. Anyways, I will check again after the service.

Also, what all to be done in the first service ?

- Engine Oil change
- Filter change
- Wheel alignment

Anything else ?

Jaggu · 3rd October 2007, 16:31

ok, turbo kicks in at 1900 rpm territory and you should feel good pull from then on till say 3k atleast.

check list you have posted in aok, only the wheel alignment is optional, since you mentioned side pull.

Eddy · 3rd October 2007, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

ok, turbo kicks in at 1900 rpm territory and you should feel good pull from then on till say 3k atleast.

check list you have posted in aok, only the wheel alignment is optional, since you mentioned side pull.

Thats what worries me, I feel nothing at all... just normal acceleration. The TD vehicles were rockets at 2k rpm.

And is the rpm overshoot while shifting down from 2 to neutral normal ?

anandpadhye · 3rd October 2007, 16:48

Jaggu,

What's this torque converter you mention?

AFAIK, Swift does not have any torque convertor.

Correct me if I am wrong.

And Eddy, yes, you MUST feel the kick at 2000 RPM. If not, there is something wrong.

And when you press clutch, RPM should go down and not surge.

Something wrong here and there may be a common root cause to both these issues I think.

Jaggu · 3rd October 2007, 17:09

check with MASS and see if all well.

its a gizmo which fiddles/overrides the rpm inputs using the ecm to keep the engine runnin at extreme load condition. its quite funny to experience in a swift d, but very easy to figure out. difficult esp when you move from a petrol car.

yeah the term torque converter is wrong i guess, it should be torque sensor rather.

Eddy · 3rd October 2007, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by anandpadhye

Jaggu,

What's this torque converter you mention?

AFAIK, Swift does not have any torque convertor.

Correct me if I am wrong.

And Eddy, yes, you MUST feel the kick at 2000 RPM. If not, there is something wrong.

And when you press clutch, RPM should go down and not surge.

Something wrong here and there may be a common root cause to both these issues I think.

Any suggestions as to what could be wrong ?

anandpadhye · 3rd October 2007, 21:37

High chances of being the ECM.

But you are under warrantee (that too one of the best warrantees in the world). Just take it to the dealer and get it diagnosed and fixed in your presence.

For my NHC, I generally remain at the service station till I get the car back - it tells them that I really protect my car with my life. So they don't fool around with me...

My 2 cents.

Eddy · 3rd October 2007, 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by anandpadhye

High chances of being the ECM.

But you are under warrantee (that too one of the best warrantees in the world). Just take it to the dealer and get it diagnosed and fixed in your presence.

For my NHC, I generally remain at the service station till I get the car back - it tells them that I really protect my car with my life. So they don't fool around with me...

My 2 cents.

I just hope that the guys at my service station are intelligent enough to understand the problem, and more importantly, competent enough to solve it

anandpadhye · 3rd October 2007, 22:05

Without doubt.

Maruti is excellent in that department.

Eddy · 4th October 2007, 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy

Some Issues:

- The car pulls towards the left slightly and I think I will get the wheel balancing done at the first service to see if there is improvement.

- Turbo - I do not see any appreciable and noticeable surge of power at 2000 rpm. It was very remarkable during the TDs but not in my car. Any idea whats wrong ? Me slightly worried.

- The car surges ahead when being driven in the 2nd gear, even at low rpm. Is there an ECU issue here ? During bumper to bumper traffic, when I downshift from 2 to nuetral, The rpm suddenly shoots up when I press the clutch. Can someone please expalin ?

- The windscreen water jet only shoots water up to just below the middle of the windscreen. Is this normal ?

Guys, any other opinions on what is wrong with the car and what exactly should I communicate to the service center guy?

coolkid · 7th October 2007, 22:35

mine is a month and four days old

have done 1800 kms till date. had rattling issues.. got it fixed in the first service

haven done the ice yet. running the stock tyres. and yea add to the vdis + abs . the abs is really awesome. posting some pics now.

man_1 · 11th October 2007, 01:05

does the swift vdi have alow fuel warning light. there is some lamp shape logo near the empty mark but i doubt whether it works ?

abhibh · 11th October 2007, 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by man_1

does the swift vdi have alow fuel warning light. there is some lamp shape logo near the empty mark but i doubt whether it works ?

It doesnt work. They need to seriously add the following to VDI:

1. Low Fuel
2. 40:60 split rear seats
3. defogger (not sure about it)
4. Space (if they can)

3rd October 2007, 15:48	#31 (permalink)
akshay1234 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,863 View My Garage	when you shift to neutral and the rpm shoots up make sure your foot is completely off the accelerator when shifting. the windscreen washer jets can be adjusted by you. just take a pin and with trial and error get the right adjustment. Last edited by akshay1234 : 3rd October 2007 at 15:54.

3rd October 2007, 16:24	#33 (permalink)
Eddy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 827	@ Jaggu I tried several times, there is no change at all when I move from 1800 to 2500 rpm in the power. Anyways, I will check again after the service. Also, what all to be done in the first service ? - Engine Oil change - Filter change - Wheel alignment Anything else ? __________________ Daily Ride: Swift VDI (ABS) - Silky Silver - Sep07 - 22,000 kms. Family Ride: Ford Ikon Flair - Black - Sep04 - 47,000 kms.

3rd October 2007, 16:31	#34 (permalink)
Jaggu Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,599	ok, turbo kicks in at 1900 rpm territory and you should feel good pull from then on till say 3k atleast. check list you have posted in aok, only the wheel alignment is optional, since you mentioned side pull. __________________ The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference. -Calvin

3rd October 2007, 16:48	#36 (permalink)
anandpadhye BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 614	Jaggu, What's this torque converter you mention? AFAIK, Swift does not have any torque convertor. Correct me if I am wrong. And Eddy, yes, you MUST feel the kick at 2000 RPM. If not, there is something wrong. And when you press clutch, RPM should go down and not surge. Something wrong here and there may be a common root cause to both these issues I think. __________________ Aerodynamically speaking, a bumble bee should not be able to fly, but it does not know this, so it flies.

3rd October 2007, 17:09	#37 (permalink)
Jaggu Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,599	check with MASS and see if all well. its a gizmo which fiddles/overrides the rpm inputs using the ecm to keep the engine runnin at extreme load condition. its quite funny to experience in a swift d, but very easy to figure out. difficult esp when you move from a petrol car. yeah the term torque converter is wrong i guess, it should be torque sensor rather. __________________ The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference. -Calvin

3rd October 2007, 21:37	#39 (permalink)
anandpadhye BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 614	High chances of being the ECM. But you are under warrantee (that too one of the best warrantees in the world). Just take it to the dealer and get it diagnosed and fixed in your presence. For my NHC, I generally remain at the service station till I get the car back - it tells them that I really protect my car with my life. So they don't fool around with me... My 2 cents. __________________ Aerodynamically speaking, a bumble bee should not be able to fly, but it does not know this, so it flies.

3rd October 2007, 22:05	#41 (permalink)
anandpadhye BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 614	Without doubt. Maruti is excellent in that department. __________________ Aerodynamically speaking, a bumble bee should not be able to fly, but it does not know this, so it flies.

7th October 2007, 22:35	#43 (permalink)
coolkid Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 2	mine is a month and four days old have done 1800 kms till date. had rattling issues.. got it fixed in the first service haven done the ice yet. running the stock tyres. and yea add to the vdis + abs . the abs is really awesome. posting some pics now. __________________ (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

11th October 2007, 01:05	#44 (permalink)
man_1 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 44	does the swift vdi have alow fuel warning light. there is some lamp shape logo near the empty mark but i doubt whether it works ?

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