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Old 20th January 2010, 19:47   #166
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A KSRTC almost ripped my entire left side off a few weeks ago. Thankfully I braked hard and reduced it to a thump on the LHS ORVM. Giving these fools power steering and turbodiesels seem like an invitation for disaster.

What do you plan to do? Those look a bit nasty. :(

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What do you plan to do? Those look a bit nasty. :(
Finally, I have gained a set which does look nasty and has to be rectified. I will wait for my daughter's model exams (10th) to be over to do the work. That should be somewhere around Feb 10th.

I am trying Vision Honda Kottayam for my next service. It is on the 27th right after a possible drive on the 26th. I have already booked the service.

Let me see whether they are an alternative to Peninsular!
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Finally, I have gained a set which does look nasty and has to be rectified. I will wait for my daughter's model exams (10th) to be over to do the work. That should be somewhere around Feb 10th.

I am trying Vision Honda Kottayam for my next service. It is on the 27th right after a possible drive on the 26th. I have already booked the service.

Let me see whether they are an alternative to Peninsular!
I've heard that service centers to the North are much more customer friendly than our own. Especially Calicut I know to be very good. Let us know how the Kottayam experience goes.
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I am trying Vision Honda Kottayam for my next service. It is on the 27th right after a possible drive on the 26th. I have already booked the service.

Let me see whether they are an alternative to Peninsular!
Hi trrk did you experience any problem with paint job at Peninsular Cochin?.All Honda dealers quote a high amount for patch work.About 9 months back I did a patch work at TVM (Color Wheels) on NHC at one third price quoted at Honda TVM .I am satisfied with the paint job.

When I asked about this,the SA said that he couldn't help since the rate is fixed by the company.But I feel paint jobs shouldn't be done at a new service centre unless you are very sure about their work.

My friend (non Bhpian) recently brought a ANHC from Vision Honda Kottayam,(on my recomendation after selling off his diesel fiesta which had done nearly 85,000 km).He is happy with the sales and service of Vision Honda,and of course ANHC.
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Ugh, don't do paintjob at Peninsular TVM. I just got my Civic back after a free repaint job on the front left fender and both bumpers. It's now worse than before. The paint shades don't match. The SA claimed this is the best they can do. I pointed him to a rear quarter panel they had painted perfectly well and he had no answer.

Waiting for his call now on further action.
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Hi Mevtec,

Thanks.

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About 9 months back I did a patch work at TVM (Color Wheels) on NHC at one third price quoted at Honda TVM .I am satisfied with the paint job.
I am going to get a quote for starters. I may get the insurance company involved if it is going to be high. I will decide only when I see the quote.

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He is happy with the sales and service of Vision Honda,and of course ANHC.
Well, let us see whether they make me happy!!!!

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Ugh, don't do paintjob at Peninsular TVM.
I am not going to travel to TVM for the paintjob!
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Hi,

CAUTION: Long post.

I noticed that I have not posted the 40000 km service details and I was about to post the next one.

Here goes:

My new CVT - ownership experience-city40000checkinsheet_medium.jpg

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As usual, I took the earliest appointment at 0800AM and reached there at 0745AM to find myself alone in the whole of the service area. At 0810AM my car was inpsected and taken in for 'quick service'.

I was also told that I would have to use synthetic oil and even then change it every 5000km as per Honda's instructions. Usually the cjheck in sheet is taken back, but not this time.

The complaint about a sound was traced to wheel bearing and was replaced, I think the right rear. The rear left was changed at a previous service when on inspection it was found bad. That was not charged and the servcie advisor was surprised as to how it was done under warranty! This time it was charged. When I emptied my boot prior to the 45000 service, I found all the old items in the boot - surprise as I did not ask for them.

The bearing:

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At the end of a stocking, this would make a good weapon for defence!

The sparkplugs: (Surprise, there are eight of them.

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The MRP for four pcs - Rs 330

I am seeing a used spark plug after a long time. I am no expert, but those, I doubt, needed a change. I am not very happy when something is not used completely.

Now the air filter:

Did they have to change this?
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It makes relatively more sense now!
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I usually plan my service schedules so that I am near to or am at the correct mileage. Easy for me as the routes are more or less fixed and is easy to calculate the distance run / to run more or less accurately.

Everything was planned, but the TVM meet was shifted to Neyyar Dam and my trip to Changanacherry got cancelled and so ended up at Vision Honda, Nattakom, Kottayam on 27/10/2010 at 09.20AM for my service appointment at 09.30AM with the odometer showing 44909 km, about 90 kms short of the expected odometer reading as plaaned earlier!

My car was booked in at 09.25AM. The service advisor, Anish, offered me a choice between mineral / synthetic. Felt good. I informed him that synthetic was used at the 40000 km service. He checked the dates and saw that it was only 4 months (he wanted to check whether it was close to an year) and said no need to change now and needs to be done only at the next service. I deliberately hid my glee from him! I said I will be waiting there itself. He had put down 02.00PM as the scheduled delivery, but added that he will try to give it earlier if possible. I said, no problem.

Meanwhile a lady came up to me and introduced herself that she was in charge of the customer care and handed over her card and this:

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Sorry about the bad image:
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It was welcoming me to their centre and also had a 24 hour number for assistance from their service centre.

I was literally escorted to the lounge which was in a corner of their sales section. Air conditioned with LCD TV with Reliance BigTV connection.

For records:

My new CVT - ownership experience-city45000checksheet-fileminimizer.png
Note the 'no oil change'!

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Brake cleaning and a wash / clean is part of the paid service.

I got a clean and serviced car at 01.30PM.

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They did this on their own!

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Next service due sticker stuck unobstrusively!

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These were there both in front and back foot wells.

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I did not mind this.

Displayed in the show room.
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This modded Corolla looked nice (to me) and I loved those alloys:
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Now for the summary details:

At the end of this service, the maintenance stands at Rs 24612.00 which makes it Re 0.55 per km. The total fuel expenses (at the last tank fill at 44958km) stand at Rs 160556.61 for 3375.292 L of ordinary petrol. That gives me an overall average of 13.32 kpl at an average cost Rs 3.57 a km and a daily average running of 53 km. Ideally my front tyres should have been changed which I postponed.

Interestingly, in August 2008, I had paid a total of Rs 18707.07 as maintenance expenses for my Marina at its 45000 km mark.

Comparison between Peninsular Honda, Cochin & Vision Honda, Kottayam

In the former,

I get the slot I ask for.
I get a reminder the previous day.
I fill a an evaluation sheet for the service
I get a follow up call.

In the latter,

I was allotted a slot.
I got a reminder as I was about to leave for the service. (If I had forgotten about the service, my phone would not have been on then)
No evaluation sheet was given.
No follow up call yet.

In two years I am literally known to everybody at Peninsular Honda and I am pampered there while I am there. But on the service part, they threw a lot of Honda rules which obviously is not 'Honda' rules as observed now. I am sticking to Vision Honda as of now.

The painting section is is headed by a lady and was orally quoted Rs 10500 and three days to correct my more damaged left side and the front bumper. Both the doors need dent work!

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Hi,

On 23rd March, I invested in a Bridgestone S322 175/65R14 tyre and along with the unused stepney, replaced the front tyres. The unused stepney went to the left front side and the new one on the right. The old left is the stepney now.

After replacement:

Front left
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Front right
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Rear right
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Rear right
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Tyre bill:
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Alignment & Wheel balancing:
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Alignment:
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Apparently toe needed to be corrected.

Pollution certificate was renewed.

There was a bit of starting problem about 10 days back. One of the cells needed a bit of water and the specific gravity was low. But once started, it became okay. The OEM Exide has an indicator and that was fine. Though occasional hesitancy in cranking was there, it appeared to be fine on checking.

Today it again refused to start. Though all external checks were fine, replaced it with a Tata Green battery for Rs 2900 (after reducing for the old battery).
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Why did you go for Bridgestone S322? Have not heard much good about it.
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Rajesh - time to update this thread :( with the details. I really would have loved to pick it up...
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I had it on my old Santro. Now I need to get it installed on my i20 or Civic.
Hi appuchan, Can you let me know which MODE in scangauge did you use to connect on the Santro. I bought one today and it is just displaying the text "connecting" when I connect it on my Santro.
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Hi @trrk,

This is indeed a wonderful long term ownership report and the good is that you are updating it constantly with many finer details. Quite liked it !!

I don't want to hijack your thread, however, I need some advice on my similar car NHC GXi CVT and wondering if at any time did you also faced some steering problem. I had seen your rear wheel bearing changed and it seems its a typical problem of NHC. I had also replaced mine once.

I have a pre-worshippped 2005 Honda City GXi CVT which I have owned from 54k kms and it is now at 61k kms. I have got a real wheel bearing replaced after it started making a lot of noise. Deccan Honda had already warned me about this rear bearing at the 55k service.

They have also warned me about the Steering Rack and mentioned that it is usually completely replaced since the Honda has an electronic steering system. I can tell during city driving that the steering rack makes a thud sound when I go over potholes or bumps. There is no leaking which is visible, though.

Since this is supposed to be an expensive repair, with the dealer workshop quoting upto 50k as the cost, I would like to understand this problem before it becomes big so I can get correct service without feeling cheated.

I have a few questions

1) Is failure imminent with my steering rack? Any way to tell how much life left in the rack?
2) Could it be sub-components that create this kind of problem, which I can get replaced?

I got enthused to buy a pre-worshipped car from Team-BHP after attending the Team-BMP members meet at Lonavala last year. I am very satisfied with the decision to buy a pre-worshipped car. Other than this Steering Rack issue, the car seems to have no problems.

Advice for what to look out for when taking my car for repairs now/later when it fails, is highly appreciated.

Regards,
Vipul

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trrk, How I wish if you were here to respond to this query.

Mods: this post doesnot bring any value to the thread. You may please delete it if found unnecessary. But I can help posting this.
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Just to avoid any misunderstanding, Dr TRRK sadly passed away last year.

I am closing this thread since we really cannot continue any further logical discussion.

The thread will always be there if one needs information
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