Honda City Vtec-20000 km report - updated to 52000km - Page 3 - Team-BHP

Shan2nu · 23rd October 2004, 19:11

I see that even the INRC Vtecs used to run on these stock alloys. They're really tough.

Shan2nu

Firestarter · 25th October 2004, 20:26

Will 15" fit into the Vtec- well in mine i have 195/60 R14 goodyear Eagle ventura just fitted those so far so good not put it to test though will try out this weekend ....on the way to mangalore...

ajmat · 7th February 2005, 21:38

The problem with a Honda is that no really cannot feel when it needs to be serviced or I'm a real insensitive luddite. since the 20k service, it has undergone two gruelling trips to Karaikudi and to Nagarhole and never missed a beat - or rather - the offside passenger mirror stopped working. With the exception of the odd rattle, it was as peppy as ever

Summer is approaching, this means dead leaves, from the treee I park under, fall into the windcreen drains and I see leaves flowing out the door jambs. Feeling impatient, I undid the inner wheel arch linings and the heavens fell out of the car mud guards. Suggest you mumbaiya's and other sea dogs get this done before the monsoons- potential rust trap! One screw and a hand inside with the dexterity of a gynecologist can strike gold in terms of the muck that gathers in there

Anyway, 25k came and nearly went. Car went for a service and came back with a 3770 bill of which 2200 was for the rear light which had cracked and was getting tarnished. That means a mere 1500 for a service - mirror was fixed for free. Why do people buy scooters if a honda costs peanuts to run = i.e 0.15% of the cars original value, heck the 800 costs at least 0.5%, so apply Honda's economics to GTO's Merc, it should cost him Rs 4200

As the old wise man of this forum told me "you calculate too much !"

The Honda came back - tighter, more low end torque, exhaust note is less hollow - must open it up tomm to see the full extent. First let the new oil wet the bits !

As mentioned in separate reviews - the strut brace and nct's have transformed the car. I look less longingly at Mondeo's and Octy RS's especially after that bill.

Rudra Sen · 7th February 2005, 21:43

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Originally Posted by ajmat

As the old wise man of this forum told me "you calculate too much !"

If a proper sub woofer is not sitting in the car in a week time..old wise man will say that again.

Shan2nu · 7th February 2005, 23:30

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That means a mere 1500 for a service

Hehe my 45K service bill came to 1200. I've never paid more than 1300 for any of the regular services so far.

Shan2nu

ajmat · 8th February 2005, 07:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudra Sen

If a proper sub woofer is not sitting in the car in a week time..old wise man will say that again.

Need to work on the wise young lady!

GTO · 8th February 2005, 09:43

Good to hear about my potential service costs, Ajmat. Very few cars appeal as much to the head as to the heart. The Vtec is one of this rare breed...

GTO

gkrishn · 8th February 2005, 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajmat

Anyway, 25k came and nearly went. Car went for a service and came back with a 3770 bill of which 2200 was for the rear light which had cracked and was getting tarnished. That means a mere 1500 for a service - mirror was fixed for free. Why do people buy scooters if a honda costs peanuts to run = i.e 0.15% of the cars original value, heck the 800 costs at least 0.5%, so apply Honda's economics to GTO's Merc, it should cost him Rs 4200

If it is this low, then how those Honda service centers are making any profit at all??

ajmat · 8th February 2005, 10:11

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Originally Posted by gkrishn

If it is this low, then how those Honda service centers are making any profit at all??

1: No discounts - thicker margins when selling
2: Thai made parts - lower tariffs
3: Large volume

GTO · 8th February 2005, 10:17

To add to Ajmats list, Minimum time spent per car in the service station thus saving a huge amount on labour costs. Since I have got the Vtec, I havent had ONE single entry in the vehicle complaints section.

GTO

Rtech · 8th February 2005, 14:01

Well, if the Honda service is so cheap, I wonder what oil they use?

The oil alone for my car costs me Rs.2,300/-. The total service tab comes up to about Rs.4,200 or so, bringing the actual service cost to Rs.1,700/- if you don't include the oil.

Shan2nu · 8th February 2005, 14:40

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Well, if the Honda service is so cheap, I wonder what oil they use?

Well in the Vtec, they use a 15-W-40 grade oil that is specially made for these cars, it's basically made by Idemitsu but has Honda badging all over.

Honda Engine Oil

Shan2nu

Jaggu · 8th February 2005, 15:19

kinda out of topic, but since we are on topic of oils.. had this in my head for a long time..
honda uses idemetsu honda oe oil, but have u guys noticed it turning color sooner compared to other sysnthetic stuff.. yeah changing oil at prescribed 5k takes care of that but still i feel the synthetic oils available outside might be a better option..

ajmat · 8th February 2005, 16:30

Am a bit nervous to try anything else as the Vtec valve gear needs what the doctor prescribed but then judging by shan2us S&M video - the engine can take anything!

Rtech · 8th February 2005, 16:41

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honda uses idemetsu honda oe oil, but have u guys noticed it turning color sooner compared to other sysnthetic stuff..

They say that when an oil gets dirty soon, it's doing it's job better, so maybe the Idemetsu oil is good in that regard?!?

23rd October 2004, 19:11	#31 (permalink)
Shan2nu Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli/Blore - Karnataka - India Posts: 4,217 View My Garage	I see that even the INRC Vtecs used to run on these stock alloys. They're really tough. Shan2nu __________________ VTEC flyby - youtube.com/watch?v=1AhWJlVRPqE

7th February 2005, 21:38	#33 (permalink)
ajmat Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,224 View My Garage	The problem with a Honda is that no really cannot feel when it needs to be serviced or I'm a real insensitive luddite. since the 20k service, it has undergone two gruelling trips to Karaikudi and to Nagarhole and never missed a beat - or rather - the offside passenger mirror stopped working. With the exception of the odd rattle, it was as peppy as ever Summer is approaching, this means dead leaves, from the treee I park under, fall into the windcreen drains and I see leaves flowing out the door jambs. Feeling impatient, I undid the inner wheel arch linings and the heavens fell out of the car mud guards. Suggest you mumbaiya's and other sea dogs get this done before the monsoons- potential rust trap! One screw and a hand inside with the dexterity of a gynecologist can strike gold in terms of the muck that gathers in there Anyway, 25k came and nearly went. Car went for a service and came back with a 3770 bill of which 2200 was for the rear light which had cracked and was getting tarnished. That means a mere 1500 for a service - mirror was fixed for free. Why do people buy scooters if a honda costs peanuts to run = i.e 0.15% of the cars original value, heck the 800 costs at least 0.5%, so apply Honda's economics to GTO's Merc, it should cost him Rs 4200 As the old wise man of this forum told me "you calculate too much !" The Honda came back - tighter, more low end torque, exhaust note is less hollow - must open it up tomm to see the full extent. First let the new oil wet the bits ! As mentioned in separate reviews - the strut brace and nct's have transformed the car. I look less longingly at Mondeo's and Octy RS's especially after that bill. Last edited by ajmat : 7th February 2005 at 21:40.

8th February 2005, 09:43	#37 (permalink)
GTO Super-Admin Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 12,190 View My Garage	Good to hear about my potential service costs, Ajmat. Very few cars appeal as much to the head as to the heart. The Vtec is one of this rare breed... GTO __________________ GTO Self-imposed limits are the only type that exist. Break them....then, make it a habit. Exceed. Please don't PM for support. Use the Contact Form instead. Please read the NEW Team-BHP FAQ section for all your queries.

8th February 2005, 10:17	#40 (permalink)
GTO Super-Admin Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 12,190 View My Garage	To add to Ajmats list, Minimum time spent per car in the service station thus saving a huge amount on labour costs. Since I have got the Vtec, I havent had ONE single entry in the vehicle complaints section. GTO __________________ GTO Self-imposed limits are the only type that exist. Break them....then, make it a habit. Exceed. Please don't PM for support. Use the Contact Form instead. Please read the NEW Team-BHP FAQ section for all your queries.

8th February 2005, 14:01	#41 (permalink)
Rtech Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,161 View My Garage	Well, if the Honda service is so cheap, I wonder what oil they use? The oil alone for my car costs me Rs.2,300/-. The total service tab comes up to about Rs.4,200 or so, bringing the actual service cost to Rs.1,700/- if you don't include the oil. __________________ He who makes the loudest noise usually has the least to say. Unfortunately they don't realise that and keep at it! ____

25th October 2004, 20:26	#32 (permalink)
Firestarter Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 24	Will 15" fit into the Vtec- well in mine i have 195/60 R14 goodyear Eagle ventura just fitted those so far so good not put it to test though will try out this weekend ....on the way to mangalore...

8th February 2005, 15:19	#43 (permalink)
Jaggu Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,627	kinda out of topic, but since we are on topic of oils.. had this in my head for a long time.. honda uses idemetsu honda oe oil, but have u guys noticed it turning color sooner compared to other sysnthetic stuff.. yeah changing oil at prescribed 5k takes care of that but still i feel the synthetic oils available outside might be a better option.. __________________ The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference. -Calvin

8th February 2005, 16:30	#44 (permalink)
ajmat Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,224 View My Garage	Am a bit nervous to try anything else as the Vtec valve gear needs what the doctor prescribed but then judging by shan2us S&M video - the engine can take anything!

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