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Old 23rd May 2011, 13:25   #1891
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I face knee pain on long drives, on swift VDi. Could we fix a foot rest/pedal extensions next to the gas pedal? Is there one available in the market? Please advice.
@MARURU - Why do you need a footrest pedal next to Gas pedal. Typically you provide a dead pedal for your left leg not the right. Right leg is used all the time either on the accelerator or on the brake.
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Old 23rd May 2011, 13:31   #1892
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@MARURU - Why do you need a footrest pedal next to Gas pedal. Typically you provide a dead pedal for your left leg not the right. Right leg is used all the time either on the accelerator or on the brake.
I was speaking about something like this.

PedalMates (by CCI) - Adjustable Pedal Extensions

Is this available here in b'lore? Hopefully, this should help in mitigating the knee pain one endures on long drives.
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I was speaking about something like this.
Gas pedal extensions come with the added risk of getting stuck on the floor mat. Do take caution.
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Need to clear up few doubts that are running in my mind.
Is there any adverse effect if I go for DIN74 battery ?
Is there any electrical downside to using a battery that can deliver more cranking amperes than are needed by the engine ?
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My Swift VDi needs a bit longer crank to start (5-7 sec) everytime I start the engine. I suspected the battery to be weak as it is 3.5 years old. But today I took it to a Bosch battery service centre - they checked the battery cranking capacity, voltage, alternator volatage, ripple etc with the "Bosch battery tester".
Bosch - Battery Tester

The result of the test suggested that the battery and alternator is in good condition. And this came when we tested taking the battery capacity as 70DIN (65DIN is fitted).

So, what could be the problem? The battery guy suggested me to get the starter motor serviced. Is the suggestion OK? Also how much should it cost?
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Old 27th May 2011, 22:40   #1896
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Need to clear up few doubts that are running in my mind.
Is there any adverse effect if I go for DIN74 battery ?
Is there any electrical downside to using a battery that can deliver more cranking amperes than are needed by the engine ?
Using one, so far so good. I have not faced any issue. With a 10 amp more i think alternator will take a little longer to charge the battery to full when discharged completely apart from that i dont think there are any issues.

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So, what could be the problem? The battery guy suggested me to get the starter motor serviced. Is the suggestion OK? Also how much should it cost?
If your battery is in good shape and a new battery is not helping, yes the starter might need some clean up. But is it too bad? ie the time taken to start?
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Haven't tried a new battery. As per the battery shop and test results - the battery is in good condition.
Takes about 5-7 seconds of cranking every time I start the engine (hot or cold).
If it is really a starter motor problem and if I continue to ignore can this cause any big problem (or hole in the pocket)?

Also, I noticed that the fuel pump runs for about 10-15sec every time I turn the ignition key to on (even within seconds) - is it normal?

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Are you sure about 5-7 seconds ? This sounds too much.
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Old 27th May 2011, 23:01   #1899
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5-7 sounds too much for me it should be 2-4 secs max. And yes fuel pump keeps on krrr sound as soon as you switch ON, since its a high pressure rail thingie.
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yes I just checked - it is about 5 sec.
And everybody suggested to replace the battery. So I went today to the battery shop to be sure that the battery is culprit and also with money ready to replace the battery if it's faulty. But the battery turns out to be good. Actually in the off condition the battery voltage is 12.95V which is good as per the battery shop owner.

For Swift D according to:
Bowling's CCA Temperature Estimator

Input Parameters Are the Following:
  • Engine CID = 79
  • Number of Cylinders = 4
Computation Results:

Computed CCA is 158.

My battery yielded a result of 208.

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Mine was 11.6 when Amaron guy checked it and when I crancked it was 9.2 :( So its battery issue. But 5-6 seconds is too much. Even with weak battery i have currently car starts in max 3 seconds max.
Archat. Take it to the MASS and check the starter motor.
@Jaggu. Hmm so Fitting 74 din wont help for car-pc and AMP. and i am saving around 5000 Rs. If I go for DIN65 Amaron.

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@Jaggu. Hmm so Fitting 74 din wont help for car-pc and AMP. and i am saving around 5000 Rs. If I go for DIN65 Amaron.
It will coz it has more reserve power. But 5k difference?
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Yes Jaggu. DIN65 is available for 6100-700(Old Battery) = 5400/-
DIN 74 Available for 9700-700 = 9000/- So difference is 3600 /-
I think i messed up the figure in my last post.Sorry. But Saving 3600/- and new battery will run fine for atleast next 3 years. So i just have to decide now weather go for 65 or 74.
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When the warning light to drain the diesel water filter comes on --- that's the time to change the battery.

Seriously. Seems to be some sort of feature on the Swift. I have no idea how we are supposed to know when to drain the diesel water filter!
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Got 50K service done today for Rs 4380. In four years, I have got these things changed :

1. New Exide Battery at (3.5 yrs) - approx Rs 7K

2. Upgraded tyres to Goodyear 185/70/14 at 38 k - approx Rs 14k

3. All four Wheel Bearings changed at 47k - Rs 3k (Strange noise used to come from tyres at speed in excess of 60 kmph. It got fixed after bearing change).

4. Front Disc Break pad at 49k - approx Rs 2k (1407 - pad, labour - 350 + misc)

I haven't got EGR and Intercooling cleaning done yet and I doubt MASS would have done it on its own. After reading recent posts in this thread, I think I should get them done at 55k along with Air Filter cleaning.

Apart from these, no major expense incurred till now except regular consumables at recommended mileage.

I asked MASS advisor if under body rust prevention treatment is required. He said No because Swift already comes with a special coat in its underbody. He showed me that paint at front wheel's well.
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