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Old 29th April 2008, 12:58   #196
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I have taken it to 165 kmph. Beyond 140-145 kmph you need to switch to gear 4 and accelerate to 160+. I have done this on Nice road with some assistance from the road (Straight and excellent road).
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I pushed my car once close to 175 kph, on the NICE road, 3 adults in the car. I did not do 160 kph in fourth, just shifted to 5th after 130 or so and floored it. It did take it's time after 160 to reach 175 and then the road ended. I may have had some assistance too(read downhill).

Did not try it again anytime. I usually restrict highway speeds to 120kph, 140 if it is the golden quad.
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upshifting at 4000 is driving it like a petrol.
best point to upshift is usually 3000rpm.
or even 2500rpm if you want mileage.
I think the Swift DDiS, in it's stock form has power till 3500 rpm(which I think is the best point to shift), after which it tails off. Which is why I mentioned 3500-4000. Driving like a petrol, one should then push it to 5200, but no point at all doing that, other than reducing engine life.

Yours is a Pete' one, you should be doing 4k shifts. Try it and let us know.
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Old 29th April 2008, 16:48   #199
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if i upshift at 4500rpm- the car definitely feels faster. 0-100 comes up in 11.7 secs(stopwatch)
but I have a feeling, using the rev range from 2000 to 3500 will be just as good.because peak torque is still produced in the same region,just that more of it is produced at the same rev range.

have not tried it yet.the car is very rev happy after the box, and before you can move your hands fast enough to shift the gears(especially 2nd and 3rd) the car would have reached 4000rpm.

difficult to find a road where I can try this safely.also, 0-100 is engine and drivetrain torture, and I have allowed myself the luxury of doing it only twice.

rolling starts are almost as much fun, but definitely easier on the conscience

the problem with upshifting at 3500 is that, the revs will drop only to 2500 in the next gear, which means we are wasting 500rpm of the peak torque region.
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Is it okay if I get my SWIFT LDI's first service done after the period of 30 days; may be after 35 days? It has run around 400 Km and was delivered in 11.4.2008.
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My observations:

FE drive: Shift at 2 to 2.2 k
Performance drive 3.4 to 4 k, slight over revs to keep the revs on the boil.

Beyond 4 k its very hitting the wall on a stock engine, though yeah during some occasions i do that, unconsciously with all the petrol engine exp
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Thanks a lot Abhilash. Now we got some idea about the fuel filter cost

It is not mandatory to change the brake fluid. Would help if you replace by 35-40 k kms or at 2 years of purchase, just to remove any moisture content that got into the fluid.
As per the manual , you have to change the brake fluid every 20 000 km
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This is taken care of, in the 20k service.
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Old 9th June 2008, 12:40   #204
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Did a weekend blast to Cochin and back, and engine has opened up really well. Sweet spot to shift is anywhere between 3 to 4 K RPM (depending on the mode you are in). Road inside kerala is a mess, with badly executed patch work. Then there were the diversions between in TN highways, all in all car took a lot of thrashing and surfaced with same number of rattles as before

Mileage onward with as you wish fast drive was 21 kmpl. Route was BLR>Dharmapuri>Mettur>Bhavani>CBE>Palghat>Trichur> Guruvayoor>Kodangaloor>Alwaye>Cochin.

With every trip am falling in love with the car, again and again, the power and handling in such a small package is unrivaled. Did BLR > Palghat with breaks in under 7 hours (early morning) and Alwaye to BLR, again with breaks in around 11 hours through the evening peak traffic.

All in all great trip to get back to highway trips after a break, car touching 19k Kms and another couple of weeks ready for 20k Kms service
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Hi,

Can any one tell me whether the New Swift (Type II) is Chain or Belt Driven (Timming).
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@Gurudatta Nayak, based on my understanding its chain driven.
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Did a weekend blast to Cochin and back, and engine has opened up really well. Sweet spot to shift is anywhere between 3 to 4 K RPM (depending on the mode you are in). Road inside kerala is a mess, with badly executed patch work. Then there were the diversions between in TN highways, all in all car took a lot of thrashing and surfaced with same number of rattles as before

Mileage onward with as you wish fast drive was 21 kmpl. Route was BLR>Dharmapuri>Mettur>Bhavani>CBE>Palghat>Trichur> Guruvayoor>Kodangaloor>Alwaye>Cochin.

With every trip am falling in love with the car, again and again, the power and handling in such a small package is unrivaled. Did BLR > Palghat with breaks in under 7 hours (early morning) and Alwaye to BLR, again with breaks in around 11 hours through the evening peak traffic.

All in all great trip to get back to highway trips after a break, car touching 19k Kms and another couple of weeks ready for 20k Kms service
you're shifting at 3K-4k and getting 21kmpl?
every shift is at 3k-4k? or is it only during tight overtaking that you use those rpms?
I'd be looking at 16kmpl for similar shift points.

what rev range do you cruise at? 100kmph comes at 2200rpm in the stock car right? or is it higher?

love is right! I used to treat all my cars pretty badly. with the swift, I'm obsessive about taking care of it.I want the fun to last as long as it can.
family thinks I'm mad.
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@ ripper: yup most of the time i shift above 3k (Around 3200), and maybe 20% time i hit 4k, trip was downhill from BLR to Cochin. I started early and it was hartal in TN so slight reduction in traffic. Had 3 passengers and lugguage. Usually i get better mileage on onward trip, yup the return trip mostly happen at night so more aggressive overtaking thanks to blinding heavy traffic.

Tanked up in BLR previous day did around 25kms in BLR and next fill was 628 km (IIRC) on trip meter, took 29 plus chilar lit at cut off and added some more to make it 30 Liter.

As they say its not how high you rev, but how you make the rpm dance that matters. I have somehow mastered the power delivery to my advantage of acceleration and mileage cruise speeds were around 100 and 120 and one or two times burst till 135's. More than that with family and current road condition is uncomfortable after Krishnagiri. RPM vs Speed you quoted are kind of spot on.
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Mileage update from return trip: 18 odd kmpl. This is with Cochin to BLR + Some 50 odd kms in BLR. And this is what i was talking about, uphill to BLR and some aggressive overtaking at night = mileage drop.

Sweet spot for FE people in Swift D is 90-110 kmpl cruising, surely will show 22-25 kmpl on highway.
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Sweet spot for FE people in Swift D is 90-110 kmpl cruising, surely will show 22-25 kmpl on highway.
I think the sweet spot is 70-90 kmph. (1800 -2100rpm). Three long drives to home and back resulted in 25.x - 26.x consistently. (Without AC or very minimal AC)

However I am trying to find the sweet spot for the run inside Bangalore. Getting 16.x consistently. (Without or minimal AC)
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