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Old 22nd January 2013, 23:05   #2551
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Engine oil used was Castrol, is what I am told. I cannot recollect whether the rpm was with A/C ON or not, is there any difference with A/C On & Off ?
Never tried Castrol on my car, but yes Servo was a disaster after Delvac MX. So do check the oil but for roughness.

Yes the RPM will increase with AC switch ON.
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Never tried Castrol on my car, but yes Servo was a disaster after Delvac MX. So do check the oil but for roughness.

Yes the RPM will increase with AC switch ON.
In case the 950 rpm is without AC ON, what needs to be checked? Am taking my car early tomorrow for fixing the wheel stud issue, will ask them for a check on this too.
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In case the 950 rpm is without AC ON, what needs to be checked? Am taking my car early tomorrow for fixing the wheel stud issue, will ask them for a check on this too.
In my car without AC its 900 and with AC ~950. If its higher first thing to check would be intercooler plumbing which was changed for any leaks.
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Servo was a disaster after Delvac MX.
My experience on the Tucson has been exactly opposite.
I tried Delvac MX once and and engine became rough. Switch back to Servo after 5000 km and engine became smoother. Then, as a benefit of doubt to Mobil (as MX is not synthetic), I tried Delvac 1 (which is supposed to be fully synthetic) for 2 consecutive refills (over last one and a half year or so), found no noticeable improvement in performance, so again asked the service guys to switch to their default. Now Hyundai has a tie-up with Shell and they use a regular (mineral) oil from Shell (Rs. 225/ L) and engine is happy.
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Each engine has its own liking and disliking. MJD or DDIS engines love Mobil and do not like servo at all.
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Hi all, was facing an issue with my Swift and felt that I need to get the opinion of my fellow "diesel" heads on the most active Swift diesel thread on team-bhp . Sorry about the really long post, just wanted to ensure that I am able to get across almost all requisite information across in this post.

I (like almost every other team-bhpian with a DDiS Swift) had been feeling that the turbo kick of my vehicle was reducing with the progressing age of the vehicle, however, post most services, I felt that things were better and just continued driving on.

My Swift has done 58000 Kms and my extended warranty (4 years post purchase of the vehicle) has expired 2 months ago. I had been feeling that the vehicle was misbehaving especially at lower RPMs in lower gears just when I released the clutch. It felt as if the engine would stall, especially when starting from a standstill and the judders in 1st gear were very apparent, not only to the person driving the vehicle, but to passengers as well. There was absolutely no juddering if the vehicle was rolling even a tiny bit. Also, if I slipped the clutch very, very carefully, the juddering was almost negligible.
At first I thought the clutch may be giving way, but the behavior of the vehicle was absolutely normal once it had started rolling along. I didn't notice any difference in pulling power (especially once the turbo kicks in on higher gears) and the RPM vs speed in gears also seemed to be okay (I had normally noticed that the RPM in 5th Gear at 80 Kmph was around the 2000 mark and the same figures hold true now as well). I assumed that this simple test should likely rule out the possibility of a worn clutch that is slipping - I may be wrong and hope someone can correct me on this.

The car is due for a major service at 60000 Kms (the one that is done every 20000 Kms) and I felt that I'll speak about these issues when I take it to the service center in another 2000 Kms, however, today I noticed that the car wasn't pulling cleanly in 2nd gear after after I had slowed down to about 15 Kmph to go over a few speed-breakers. In most cases, after going over the speed-breakers, I was forced to downshift to 1st gear to gain some momentum before shifting to 2nd gear.
On reaching home, I figured that I haven't cleaned my air filter in ages and given the amount of dust in Pune, I felt that this might have something to do with the issue. I cleaned the air filter by tapping it against the floor and blowing some air on it and as expected, it was filled to the brim with black soot/dust/all manner of small insects. I thought that this should solve the problem - which it did to some extent as the car definitely felt like it was breathing - but the juddering in 1st gear hadn't gone away. In the middle of patting myself on the back for a job well done, I happened to see a really shiny pipe just behind the engine and, on closer inspection, was surprised to see that it was completely drenched in oil. I'm not sure if this is the turbo plumbing or the EGR/intercooler plumbing or something else but I'm pretty sure that something isn't right. I also checked the engine oil level to make sure that the oil was not leaking in large quantities and was relieved to see that it was just a tiny bit below the full mark. I'm attaching a picture of the engine bay that I took in the hope that someone would be able to help me in figuring out what needs to be checked. (The pipe in question is marked out in a red box.
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Hi all, was facing an issue with my Swift I happened to see a really shiny pipe just behind the engine and, on closer inspection, was surprised to see that it was completely drenched in oil. I'm not sure if this is the turbo plumbing or the EGR/intercooler plumbing or something else but I'm pretty sure that something isn't right. I also checked the engine oil level to make sure that the oil was not leaking in large quantities and was relieved to see that it was just a tiny bit below the full mark. I'm attaching a picture of the engine bay that I took in the hope that someone would be able to help me in figuring out what needs to be checked. (The pipe in question is marked out in a red box.

Nothing to worry... I had the exact same issue in my dzire vDi. MASS told be initially that it was due to loose clips but eventually the culprit was the cracked Hose pipe. The same was changed and issue sorted.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ml#post2415596

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Nothing to worry... I had the exact same issue in my dzire vDi. MASS told be initially that it was due to loose clips but eventually the culprit was the cracked Hose pipe. The same was changed and issue sorted.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ml#post2415596

Hope this helps

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Thanks - that definitely helped . Unfortunately, my car is going to be parked for about 2 months as I'm going out of the country on work on Monday. I will get this checked and the car serviced as soon as I'm back in April and will report on how things pan out at the service center.
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Completed the 30k service today. Attaching a brief summary:

Engine oil and oil filter: 953/-
Brakes overhaul : 420/-
Turbo charger cleaning: 400/-
Caliper pin greasing: 60/-
Consummables: 100/-
Paid service: 725/-
Steering rack plunger(replaced under warranty): 0.00/-

Total: 2950/- (including VAT, Cess and service tax)
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What is turbo charger cleaning ?

I completed by 30K kms service yesterday.

It was engine oil and engine oil filter change and paid service. Nothing else.

EGR was cleaned at 20K kms service.
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What is turbo charger cleaning ?

I completed by 30K kms service yesterday.

It was engine oil and engine oil filter change and paid service. Nothing else.

EGR was cleaned at 20K kms service.
I believe it was intercooler cleaning.
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....I had been feeling that the vehicle was misbehaving especially at lower RPMs in lower gears just when I released the clutch. It felt as if the engine would stall, especially when starting from a standstill and the judders in 1st gear were very apparent, not only to the person driving the vehicle, but to passengers as well. There was absolutely no juddering if the vehicle was rolling even a tiny bit. Also, if I slipped the clutch very, very carefully, the juddering was almost negligible...
I have the same problem in my Swift too and multiple SAs acknowledged the problem. They said nothing can be done other than changing the whole assembly (estimated cost is 5-6K). Though, none of them recommended a change now, they said it can go for quite some more time & I shall replace it later.
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My swift D started making some faint noise as if something is rubbing against something inside the engine bay.

Gave it to M.A.S.S today. They are replacing the water pump.

I have no clue what went wrong.

Please provide your inputs.
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My swift D started making some faint noise as if something is rubbing against something inside the engine bay.

Gave it to M.A.S.S today. They are replacing the water pump.

I have no clue what went wrong.

Please provide your inputs.
How much has your Swift run?
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How much has your Swift run?
27800 Kms. Car is back with me. They replaced the water pump under warranty.
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Hi Guys,

I have a Dec 2007 Swift VDi. Completed 1,08,000 kms approx.

Last month had a major service with my clutch being replaced, EGR cleaning, turbo/intercooler cleaning, AC servicing, rear shockers replaced, timing chain replaced and instrument cluster replaced (had faulty fuel / RMP / temp gauges). Total damage was approx. Rs. 36K.

Today while driving down the highway for a 200km trip felt that the engine RPM was suddenly zipping to 3 / 3.5K beyond 2K without any addition in speed or Torque. Below 2K the car works as desired. But if I try to REV hard, the RPM goes up but does not add any punch (torque or speed).

I am for a weekend holiday had no alternative but to drive to the resort. Below 2K absolutely no issue so thought will drive within 1.8K RPM and maintain a speed of 80K to reach here.

I get my car serviced from Maruti Mohun Motors Kolkata. Called up the service adviser Rakesh Paul. He says it can be a slipping clutch (which is unlikely since it was replaced) or a failing turbo or a wrong firing brake sensor. Not sure why he referred to brake sensor.

No service lights have come up and when i rev hard no black smoke too.

Now my question is whether it is safe to drive the car back another 200kms without causing any damage?

What is the cost of the turbo if it had failed?

Any idea what might have gone wrong.

Came to spend a cool weekend at a seaside resort in WB, but feeling bad about my limping car :(

Gurus, I am looking forward to your inputs.

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