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Old 18th March 2013, 14:03   #2596
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Intercooler cleaning - 20k kms interval is a good idea.
Hi Jaggu,my Swft vdi has currently done around 25k.Is it recommended to go for an intercooler cleaning?
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Hi Jaggu,my Swft vdi has currently done around 25k.Is it recommended to go for an intercooler cleaning?
Yes 20-30k kms cleaning the intercooler is a good idea, to get the residue oil out.
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Hi Jaggu,my Swft vdi has currently done around 25k.Is it recommended to go for an intercooler cleaning?
I would recommend intercooler cleaning in conjunction with EGR valve cleaning. As per the Maintenance Schedule, EGR valve cleaning is supposed to be done every 30,000 KM. It may be required to be carried out earlier only if warnings appear.

Removal and cleaning of the Swift intercooler is a very simple affair and is included in the labour cost of EGR valve cleaning (that is what I was told by my dealer-cum-service-centre when I took my car for EGR valve cleaning and they also cleaned the intercooler at no extra cost).
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Removal and cleaning of the Swift intercooler is a very simple affair and is included in the labour cost of EGR valve cleaning (that is what I was told by my dealer-cum-service-centre when I took my car for EGR valve cleaning and they also cleaned the intercooler at no extra cost).
Oh. I was charged separate for EGR valve cleaning and intercooler cleaning. Thanks for the information.
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When is a good time for engine de-carb and injector cleaning?
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When is a good time for engine de-carb and injector cleaning?
Decarbonization was done for me at 80000kms and injector cleaning at 60000kms.

I didn't feel any difference after the two jobs. May be it shows in long run. Got it done for the heck of it. Both cost around Rs. 2000 each.

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Thanks - that definitely helped . Unfortunately, my car is going to be parked for about 2 months as I'm going out of the country on work on Monday. I will get this checked and the car serviced as soon as I'm back in April and will report on how things pan out at the service center.
Sorry for digging up and old quote.. I was out of the country and came back on Saturday. Sitting at the service station as I type this. The hose leakage has not been diagnosed yet, however SA advised that I should get EGR cleaning done, which would allow him to also check the root cause of the oil drenched pipe. I also asked for intercooler cleaning and replacement of all fuilds. Also, had a 'knocking' sensation from the front suspension on broken roads which has been diagnosed to be due to some issues with the balance rod. The following is the estimate of charges given:
(Figures on left are spares and ones on right are labour.)

Paid srv. 60000 kms 4500+1000
Clutch check -bleeding (no charge)
Check EGR pipe leakage. EGR cleaning 200+1600
Brake check (liner & pads) 100+700
Wheel balancing/align. 200+700
Balance rod check & replace 1000+350
Struts OH both 800+750
Intercooler cleaning 0+750

Total estimate 12600.

He is attributing the judder experienced in 1st gear when starting from a standstill to a worn clutch. He says that there is no slippage when rolling, but says that when the clutch gets "thinner", it does not latch on as easily when starting from a standstill. I'm not getting it changed right now, have asked him to do the rest of the stuff and will come back in a week if the clutch is still an issue. The clutch assembly replacement will set me back by another 5k according to the SA. Fingers crossed for a good experience with Sai service in Hinjewadi :-)
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Hi Every one,
Of late i have been hearing a metallic rattling sound i.e when the turbo spools at 1800~2000rpm somewhat similar to the sound when you drop a steel plate on the floor but disappears after 2200~2400 rpm,quite noteceable in the 4th and 5th gear.What could be the reason?help.
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Guys .

Need some advise, I reported earlier that the rpm level are on the higher side on my car, for example on 2nd gear , 40 comes @ around 2.4k rpms rather than around 2k rpm and the issue still persists .
But from few days I have started noticing one more thing, say I am going in 2nd gear @ low speeds and there is a hump or something, where I need to slow down and downshift to 1st gear , i see that the rpm is going as low 500 after changing to 1st gear and when ready to let go the clutch to get the car moving .

Could anyone let me know , are these all indications of the clutch giving up slowly or this is because of something else ?

Please advise so that i can plan to get the same fixed during my 50k service ..

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Guys .

Need some advise, I reported earlier that the rpm level are on the higher side on my car, for example on 2nd gear , 40 comes @ around 2.4k rpms rather than around 2k rpm and the issue still persists .
But from few days I have started noticing one more thing, say I am going in 2nd gear @ low speeds and there is a hump or something, where I need to slow down and downshift to 1st gear , i see that the rpm is going as low 500 after changing to 1st gear and when ready to let go the clutch to get the car moving .

Could anyone let me know , are these all indications of the clutch giving up slowly or this is because of something else ?

Please advise so that i can plan to get the same fixed during my 50k service ..

Cheers
I had a somewhat similar issue and it was resolved to a large extent by clearing/replacing the air filter. Although Maruti says that you only need to replace it every 20k Kms, considering how dusty and polluted our country is, I have started getting it replaced every 10k Kms. I would also recommend EGR cleaning and intercooler cleaning (if they were not done in the 40k service). I guess soot buildup in the EGR valve seems to be very common and cleaning it would definitely improve the overall engine responsiveness (refer to my earlier post from Feb in this thread for the leaking EGR hose and check if the symptoms seem similar - I got the EGR valve cleanup last week and the car is running really well ever since, no judders/shudders since then and I don't feel the need to replace the clutch any more)
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From the experience of many other DDiS owners here, the clutch seems to last people anywhere between 75k to 100k kms (and more in some cases) so I don't think the clutch should be giving way yet.
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Guys .

Need some advise, I reported earlier that the rpm level are on the higher side on my car, for example on 2nd gear , 40 comes @ around 2.4k rpms rather than around 2k rpm and the issue still persists .
But from few days I have started noticing one more thing, say I am going in 2nd gear @ low speeds and there is a hump or something, where I need to slow down and downshift to 1st gear , i see that the rpm is going as low 500 after changing to 1st gear and when ready to let go the clutch to get the car moving .

Could anyone let me know , are these all indications of the clutch giving up slowly or this is because of something else ?

Please advise so that i can plan to get the same fixed during my 50k service ..

Cheers
As suggested by BBT' get the inetrcooler and EGR cleaned and check the issue persists or not?!

The RPM going down to 500 is normal right?! Once you downshift to first gear the RPM may shoot up to ~1500 and once you are releasing the clutch the load of the engine will show so the RPM goes down.

What is the RPM at 5th Gear at 80kmph and 100kmph?

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Just came back from the alignment center, which I found after a lot of calls. Its exact address is

Basha Wheel Alignment
Opposite Colonel Hill School
Colonel Hill Road,
Near Cantonment Station
Bangalore.

Each wheel in the car had camber which needed to be adjusted. In the front, the wheels were pointing straight but angled inwards towards the car at the bottom (about 1.5 cm) (where the tyre contacts the ground). The rear were pointed towards the center (a few degrees towards the car) and the bottom was slightly tilted outwards (about 1 cm). The front was set right by centering. The rear was corrected by adding washers to the place where the brake drum is bolted to the suspension. Pretty time consuming process. I reached there at 11:45 and everything was done by 17:45. Now I feel that the car moves very freely when coasting. Due to this, I also expect my mileage to increase.

When they were working on my car, a 2009 swift came in with the exact wear symptoms on the rear left tyre. The owner did not notice it earlier and the tyre was fully worn out on the outside while steel strands were coming out of the inside edge !

Maruti really has some QC issues since my car was never involved in a collision which could have changed the alignment in this way. There seem to be quite a few examples of this kind of wear in Swifts and Dzires. I know of theMag, arun_josie and myself in team-bhp itself and another example that I saw at the alignment center. I now also think that Maruti deliberately chooses tyres which wear slowly in order that such suspension issues do not show up early in the warranty periods.
I am facing the same issue(Symptoms of uneven wear&tear on the edges) on my new Michelin XM2 as well. Maruti engineers inspected the tyres and now they are planning to change the rear axle with a new one to test this issue. Do you think this will resolve the issue?
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I am facing the same issue(Symptoms of uneven wear&tear on the edges) on my new Michelin XM2 as well. Maruti engineers inspected the tyres and now they are planning to change the rear axle with a new one to test this issue. Do you think this will resolve the issue?
I think it may resolve the problem provided the new axle is matching the specs required exactly. Or if the axle can't take the abuse meted out on our roads, you will start seeing this problem again after some years.
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I think it may resolve the problem provided the new axle is matching the specs required exactly. Or if the axle can't take the abuse meted out on our roads, you will start seeing this problem again after some years.
I spoke to the Maruti Engineers again and they said its a 95% chance that the new axle can resolve this issue. One more thing they noticed was it is not only the outer edge even the inner edge is having the same strip/mark formed which eventually leads to uneven wear and tear. They are planning to change the axle by this Monday or Tuesday. Fingers crossed!
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I am kind of stuck with a peculiar AC issue i.e. the ac vents on the auto climate screen shows to be closed however I feel its in open state as I can smell the outdoor odour easily and also the dust is getting in though in small quantity.

I have shown it to one of the MASS centers and they were unable to diagnose the issue, have shown it to an outside ac mechanic who says the auto ac vent clip has moved from its place and will need to be set in though it may require the whole dashboard to be opened up. I am kind of confused how to get it sorted, has anyone faced a similar issue with their cars.
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