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Old 10th July 2013, 13:44   #2641
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My swift vdi is about 15 months old and done 27k kms. I had upgraded the headlamps to 100/90 just after purchase (not sure of which wiring kit). Thereafter my right headlight conked off twice in about 2 months time, assuming the wiring kit to be faulty, I had this replaced by a new Hella Kit (100/90) with Philips bulbs. Last week my right (low beam only) conked off, I did the replacement (Bosch - single bulb only) myself. Today the right high beam is gone, the headlamps must have been used for about 2 hours in the past week.

Where could the fault be?
I have upgraded the bulbs on my swift VXI (2007) to Flosser 100/90s, so far they have been excellent and they light up the road better than those Philips ones. They're German but not as widely used as Bosch/Philips so chances are you will get genuine ones.
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Carwale says my car is worth 3.3 Lakhs which I think is on a lower side.

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EDIT: Why this OT smilie is looking angry?! he he

If car is in excellent shape then you will get more than what carwale quotes. Goto local used car guys as a buyer and see what they are quoting for a similar car, 20-25k less would be approx the going rate.

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I have upgraded the bulbs on my swift VXI (2007) to Flosser 100/90s, so far they have been excellent and they light up the road better than those Philips ones. They're German but not as widely used as Bosch/Philips so chances are you will get genuine ones.
Yes Floser is really good brand, if the filament is matching the reflector and throw is good i would anyday blindly recommend Floser. I thought they are not available these days.

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Old 12th July 2013, 21:38   #2643
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Last two days my swifts service check light was coming on so today i took it to dealer service and they connected the diagnostics machine and guess what.

It was the glo plugs which has gone bad,SA told me that i can drive without any problem but for the light in the instrument panel and it would cost 4k for replacing all four plugs.

I asked them to replace one which is gone but he said if one is changed rest all will become weak very soon and he said it better to change all 4.

So what should i do now?
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Last two days my swifts service check light was coming on so today i took it to dealer service and they connected the diagnostics machine and guess what.

It was the glo plugs which has gone bad,SA told me that i can drive without any problem but for the light in the instrument panel and it would cost 4k for replacing all four plugs.

I asked them to replace one which is gone but he said if one is changed rest all will become weak very soon and he said it better to change all 4.

So what should i do now?
Change the faulty one only. Should cost you within 1K. If MASS denies you can get it done from outside mechanic also. It's a very simple job and glow plug is available with MGP stores (Bosch ones).
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Hi all

Last two days my swifts service check light was coming on so today i took it to dealer service and they connected the diagnostics machine and guess what.

It was the glo plugs which has gone bad,SA told me that i can drive without any problem but for the light in the instrument panel and it would cost 4k for replacing all four plugs.

I asked them to replace one which is gone but he said if one is changed rest all will become weak very soon and he said it better to change all 4.

So what should i do now?
Replacing all doesn't make any sense.Replace only the faulty one. Moreover I have hardly seen the glow plug indication on the console come on.At the worst case for a second.If the MASS guys insist on replacing all you can visit any of the Bosch service centres in your area.

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I asked them to replace one which is gone but he said if one is changed rest all will become weak very soon and he said it better to change all 4.

So what should i do now?
It seems that MASS is trying make a quick buck out of this glow plug issue.

Change only the faulty one and change the rest when they fail.

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Old 14th July 2013, 19:10   #2647
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It seems that MASS is trying make a quick buck out of this glow plug issue.

Change only the faulty one and change the rest when they fail.

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It happened with me also at Mandovi, M'lore. They said something about battery getting affected, if we wouldn't change all of them at once.
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It happened with me also at Mandovi, M'lore. They said something about battery getting affected, if we wouldn't change all of them at once.
I changed only one at one of the biggest dealer workshop in Kolkata. Later when another one conked off I got it changed from my local workshop.
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Old 14th July 2013, 20:30   #2649
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Guys
Completed 90000 kms last week , 4 years and 3 months to be exact. Planning to take her for 90K service. What all need to be checked ?
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Hi all

Last two days my swifts service check light was coming on so today i took it to dealer service and they connected the diagnostics machine and guess what.

It was the glo plugs which has gone bad,SA told me that i can drive without any problem but for the light in the instrument panel and it would cost 4k for replacing all four plugs.

I asked them to replace one which is gone but he said if one is changed rest all will become weak very soon and he said it better to change all 4.

So what should i do now?
I recently ( couple of months) got the Glow plugs replaced at MASS. for Rs.500 per piece plus Rs.250 labor cost for each plug.

I just got 2 of them replaced as they seems to be weak or dead. The way the technician diagnosed the issue is this way.

Pull out the connectors to the glow plugs. Looks like a spark plug connector for each cylinder. Its just below the engine cover (no need to remove the cover). He took out a insulated copper wire, connected one end to the + of the battery and the other end he made contact to the glow plugs one by one. You will notice a faint spark at the plug and wire, for a good or working glow plug. No spark for the glow plug that is faulty.

Its a simple DIY, but I did not have the tools to unscrew the glow plug out. If you can get the plugs outside and have it installed by a local garage cost will be half. Not a complicated work at all....

Make sure the glow plug is screwed in properly. Ill fitting or wrong threaded glow-plugs might allow moisture to get into the cylinder while washing engine compartment.
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Hi all

Last two days my swifts service check light was coming on so today i took it to dealer service and they connected the diagnostics machine and guess what.

It was the glo plugs which has gone bad,SA told me that i can drive without any problem but for the light in the instrument panel and it would cost 4k for replacing all four plugs.

I asked them to replace one which is gone but he said if one is changed rest all will become weak very soon and he said it better to change all 4.

So what should i do now?
Please change ALL of those at one shot. When one of the glow plugs conk off, the load comes on the rest and sooner than later, the rest also will start conking off. I had this trouble and I was NOT happy.

Don't see the cost, please change all 4. You can source Bosch ones from local guys and take it to the MA$$ to get it fitted; prices should be much lower this way.

The glow plug issue details, I have listed in my long term ownership thread; please check for SwiftnFurious's Swift VDI ABS.... thread towards the end.

Maruti is definitely NOT trying to make quick bucks, this is actually recommended.

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Change the faulty one only. Should cost you within 1K. If MASS denies you can get it done from outside mechanic also. It's a very simple job and glow plug is available with MGP stores (Bosch ones).
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Replacing all doesn't make any sense.Replace only the faulty one. Moreover I have hardly seen the glow plug indication on the console come on.At the worst case for a second.If the MASS guys insist on replacing all you can visit any of the Bosch service centres in your area.
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It seems that MASS is trying make a quick buck out of this glow plug issue.

Change only the faulty one and change the rest when they fail.

Cheers,
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Guys
Completed 90000 kms last week , 4 years and 3 months to be exact. Planning to take her for 90K service. What all need to be checked ?
Cheers
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You can source Bosch ones from local guys and take it to the MA$$ to get it fitted; prices should be much lower this way.
9/10 Bosch Glow plugs available in the local market are fake.
My suggestion is to get the glow plugs only from MASS.
I have personally seen fake GPs to either seize in the cylinder head or even worst- the tip breaking and falling inside the cylinder.
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Did the 30000 kms service for my swift VDi at Bimal, Mahadevpura (Whitefield Rd) Bangalore, break-up of the bill is as follows:

Clip - Radiator upper/RR Mud Flap - 15.75 (5.25 * 3)
Oil Filter - 340.61
Plug Assembly, Oil Drain - 74.24
Balance Wts (5, 10, 15 & 20 gms) - 130.00 (Approx)
Cons (DIES) - 150.00
Grease sachet, Fr Caliper Sliding - 11.35
Screen Wash Concentrate 50ml (Sac.) - 13.10
Synthetic Oil - Castrol (5W40) - 2842.79
Labour (Paid Service) - 1225.00
Front Brake Caliper Asy - 200.00
Rear Brake Drum both side - 250.00
Alignment - 510.00
Balancing - 344.00
Total - 6950.00 (including ST and VAT)

Mobil Synthetic (5W40) was used earlier and is not available at the dealership now, instead Castrol synthetic (5W40) is being used. Was given a complimentary wax Polish + micro fibre cloth (The brand must be "KROM", not sure) worth Rs. 250.00.
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Please change ALL of those at one shot. When one of the glow plugs conk off, the load comes on the rest and sooner than later, the rest also will start conking off. I had this trouble and I was NOT happy.
Mate,
Probably you had a poor turn, my swift's glow plug conked off at around 95K. Took it for a replacement and found out only one was the culprit. The SA replaced the faulty one and now my car has done 133K without any challenges.
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Did the 70K service of my DDIS. Got the major service done including EGR and Intercooler cleaning. Costed me 9K. All the oils as well the filters were changed. Calliper pins cleaned.

Few pending Issues in my car which I noticed after the service.

1. Glow plug(s) worn off. The check engine light was on. Took over the car to MASS. They checked and reported it was cause of faulty glow plugs. The SA advised me to run the car as of now but I am not going to ignore the check engine light for long. Planning to get it changed. Mostly outside M.A.S.S.

2. Front right bearing worn off. It feels like the car tyre is in contact with the body. Also the vibration is very prominent and slow-medium speeds. Speeds above 50 and its not that defined. Got this checked outside M.A.S.S. The mechanic suggested me to get both sides changed just like the break pads and shockers policy. Is it allright to get this done outside too.

3. Need a solution for weak headlights. Winter is coming :P and so is fog and low visibility. What are the best bulbs for the standard headlight assembly which won't destroy the relay.
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