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Old 25th April 2016, 16:06   #2956
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Radiator itself will have couple of hoses, so 11 hoses is a possibility and 7-8k is a reasonable amount i feel. Yes it is a good idea to replace rubber parts like hoses and belts, if they have aged 5-7 years, and planning to keep the car for long.
Big thanks Jaggu !
Yes, for reliability and peace of mind, this need be the way to go considering the age part.
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Is the number of 11 hoses a correct one or am I being taken for a ride? Considering engine, radiator, cabin heater, oil cooler, EGR cooler, coolant reservoir, water pump can think of not more than 8 hoses that could come up in this circuit.
There are a total of 20 hoses/pipes that I have found using the parts manual for Swift. Of these 20, two are metal so it can be considered as 18 rubber pipes/hoses to be checked and replaced.

A. EGR

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  1. EGR Cooler inlet hose - 17981M86J00

B. Intercooler

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  1. Pipe Intercooler (This is metal one) - 13660M64L50
  2. Intercooler inlet hose 1 - 13661-74L50
  3. Intercooler inlet hose 2 - 13662-74L50
  4. Intercooler outlet hose 1 - 13663-74L50
  5. Intercooler outlet hose 2 - 13664-74L50
  6. Pipe Intercooler (This is metal one) - 13670M74L50

C) Cooling System:

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  1. Bypass water pipe - 17890M86J01
  2. Oil cooler water inlet pipe - 17971M86J00
  3. Oil cooler inlet water hose - 17976M86J00
  4. Radiator Inlet hose - 17852M74L50
  5. Radiator Outlet hose - 17854M74L50
  6. Reservoir tank vent hose - 17936M74L50
  7. Engine to degassing tank hose - 17859M74L50
  8. Degassing tank outlet hose - 17937M74L50
  9. Radiator to degassing tank hose - 17939M74L50
  10. Heater inlet hose - 17871M74L50
  11. Heater outlet hose 1 - 17872M74L50
  12. Heater outlet hose 2 - 17874M86J00
  13. Heater outlet pipe - 17880M86J00

No idea about costs of these. Sorry.

As you are replacing all these, get the EGR valve, Intercooler dismantled and cleaned. Will improve FE and performance of the car pretty much.

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Dear members,
Kindly find the prices in BOLD.

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There are a total of 20 hoses/pipes that I have found using the parts manual for Swift. Of these 20, two are metal so it can be considered as 18 rubber pipes/hoses to be checked and replaced.
A. EGR

  1. EGR Cooler inlet hose-17981M86J00-Rs.44.00

B. Intercooler

  1. Pipe Intercooler (This is metal one)-13660M64L50- Rs. 167.00
  2. Intercooler inlet hose 1-13661M86J00 - Rs.215
  3. Intercooler inlet hose 2-13662M86J00 - Rs.197
  4. Intercooler outlet hose 1-13663M86J00 - Rs.426
  5. Intercooler outlet hose 2-13664M86J00- Rs.157
  6. Pipe Intercooler (This is metal one)-13670M74L50- Rs.286

C) Cooling System:
  1. Bypass water pipe-17890M86J01- Rs. 232
  2. Oil cooler water inlet pipe-17971M86J00- Rs. 164
  3. Oil cooler water inlet hose-17976M86J00- Rs.17
  4. Radiator Inlet hose-17852M74L50- Rs.43
  5. Radiator Outlet hose-17854M74L50- Rs.50
  6. Reservoir tank vent hose-17936M74L50- Rs.71
  7. Engine to degassing tank hose-17859M74L50- *Depending upon length* ~Rs.30
  8. Degassing tank outlet hose-17937M74L50- *Depending on length*~Rs.30
  9. Radiator to degassing tank hose-17939M74L50- Rs.127
  10. Heater inlet hose-17871M74L50- Rs. 85
  11. Heater outlet hose 1-17872M74L50- Rs. 59
  12. Heater outlet hose 2-17874M86J00- Rs. 45
  13. Heater outlet pipe-17880M86J00- Rs. 290



Kindly note, these prices might vary by some amount, but is good enough to give an approximate idea. Also, most of the HOSES come as rolls, and the MASS will cut and give you according to your needs.

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  1. Intercooler inlet hose 1 - 13661-74L50
  2. Intercooler inlet hose 2 - 13662-74L50
  3. Intercooler outlet hose 1 - 13663-74L50
  4. Intercooler outlet hose 2 - 13664-74L50
These parts are SGP(notice the missing "M" in the part numbers). These parts have been localised and chances are that you may receive the MGP ones, whose part numbers I have mentioned.

The updated part numbers are-
13661M86J00 HOSE,INTER COOLER INLET NO.1
13662M86J00 HOSE,INTER COOLER INLET NO.2
13663M86J00 HOSE,INTER COOLER OUTLET NO.1
13664M86J00 HOSE,INTER COOLER OUTLET NO.2


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No idea about costs of these. Sorry.
No need to be sorry, Bhaiya. Thanks for the part numbers

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Shashi

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Old 1st May 2016, 21:28   #2959
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Last 3 services of my swift is really making me think is Maruti really a value for money?
I am paid an average of 10 K for the last 3 services excluding any parts replacement. Oil is Shell synthetic. No wheel aligment and balancing included in this.

My Figo is costing an average of 6K per service.

My counsin's Honday City is costing average of 7K. Honda city charges 1750 as Paid Service Cost where as Maruti Swift Paid Service cost is 2350

Can Swift Diesel Owners share their experience?

Is Intercooler Cleaning, Brakepad cleaning, Caliper Pin Adjustment are required?
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It's an old car. compare it to another 2007 year old car.
My 2007 Indica DLG turbo (which cost about 1.5L less than your swift back then) costs me 10K per service( with mineral oil btw) , but with a service interval of 4 months, due to random issues that keep showing up! Of course it's a tata, so It's on the higher side - perhaps look at other Diesel cars in this bracket ?

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Is Intercooler Cleaning, Brakepad cleaning, Caliper Pin Adjustment are required?
Not unless they are specifically mentioned in owner's service booklet.
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Maruti Swift Paid Service cost is 2350
Can Swift Diesel Owners share their experience?
Is Intercooler Cleaning, Brakepad cleaning, Caliper Pin Adjustment are required?
That's some royal looting. Just paid 1250 for 70k Service. Total bill was 4300/- with MGP 5w40 Synthetic. This was the lowest I have ever paid for my 2012 Zdi.

Intercooler Cleaning: Only if u ask them to do. Brakepad Cleaning: Should be a part of Servicing, but most of the Centres charge 2-300 for this. Caliper Pin Adjustment: Only if u ask them to do.
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That's some royal looting. Just paid 1250 for 70k Service. Total bill was 4300/- with MGP 5w40 Synthetic. This was the lowest I have ever paid for my 2012 Zdi.

Intercooler Cleaning: Only if u ask them to do. Brakepad Cleaning: Should be a part of Servicing, but most of the Centres charge 2-300 for this. Caliper Pin Adjustment: Only if u ask them to do.
I think I will change the Service Center next time. When I ask is it required, it is better to do Sir. I am not sure whether what is the impact of not doing so I agree to those

Here is the items which I feel bloating the bill - 180K Kms Service
1. Paid Service - 30K/60K/90K - 2285.
2. Service Kit - OLD Swift Diesel - 1659
3. Drum Brake Cleaning - 235
4. Consummable Check/Replacement - 285
5. Caliper Pin Greasing - 200
6. Center ventilator louver - 575

Here is the items from previous bill 170K Service
1. 50K/70K/110K Paid Service - 1390
2. Front Disc Brakepad (both sides) - 310
3. Drum Brake Cleaning - 235
4. Center ventilator louver - 575
5. Intercooler Cleaning - 505
6. EGR Valve, EGR cooler and or gasket - 1850
7. Consummable Check/Replacement - 215
8. Fuel Injector or Injector holder - 1600

Now compare the Service Costs
Ford Figo 90 K Kms - Paid Service is 1910
Honda City Dielse 60K paid service is 1755

NOw compare the replacements between Honda City Diesel Vs Swift Diesel

1. Brake Fluid DOT3 500 ML - City 280 Rs Vs Swift Diesels GC1500AA 500 ML is 327
2. Air Filter - City - 256 Vs Swift 226
3. Fuel filter - City - 1147 Vs Swift 1154
4. Oil Filter - City - 343 Vs Swift 340

It is not much of difference in regular maintenance cost of City Vs Swift even though city is altogether a different segment
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Is there a preventive replacement of any part that I should do assuming my 2010 Swift diesel has done 85k kms.

I recently changed the brake pads and shoe (front & rear) including the master cylinder.

There is no problem as such except that when I rev the car hard in 2nd/3rd or 4th gear there's an increased noise from the engine on high rpms, something like about to snap if I continue to accelerate in the same gear, a metallic rumbling sort of sound.

I assume this car comes with a chain instead of timing belt, could it be because of that? Any preventive replacement of chain suggested? User Manual doesn't list any such thing though.

EDIT: I stopped visiting MASS since 60k service as I usually buy all consumables from MGP store and get the work done at a regular service station that petrol pumps have, saves me a few thousand. These guys don't have much idea about service intervals and parts to be replaced for my car hence the query to you all.

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I think I will change the Service Center next time. When I ask is it required, it is better to do Sir. I am not sure whether what is the impact of not doing so I agree to those...
The paid service charge is supposed to be constant for all the services (irrespective of the mileage). I am not too sure why do I see a varying rate here.

All the additional items for that service (based on the mileage) is added extra. I kind of feel that there are additional items being added, which service centre are you using for your vehicle?

If I may suggest, try Surakshaa @ Bommanahalli. I used to service my car there and have always been happy with the quality. They never add any sh*tty items to the bill.
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I was a loyal Mandovi Motors customer for the last 9 years

I think the Service Amount varies based on the mileage of the vehicle and SA Not sure though.

Thanks for your recommendation on Surakshaa@Bommanahalli, I am plannign to try for next service.
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Just did 20k kms paid service for Swift Vdi 9 months old.
Total bill was 8.5K
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Just did 20k kms paid service for Swift Vdi 9 months old. Total bill was 8.5K
Can you post the bill for the service?

IMO when my car did go for the 20K, I paid 8.1K of which 3.2K was synthetic oil.
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Sorry,im not having the bill with me now.
BTW,I haven't done anything extra other than the regular 20K service plus mudflaps which costs 400 something.
total bill was 8750 with this flaps after reducing 10% from labor charges.
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BTW, I haven't done anything extra other than the regular 20K service plus mudflaps which costs 400 something.
Here's the 20K bill for my Swift's service. Do check if the figures are similar?

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PS: I did this service on 07.08.2014 so rates wouldn't have changed much mostly.
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