Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > Team-BHP Reviews > Long-Term Ownership Reviews


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 28th September 2017, 18:16   #1066
BHPian
 
Styler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 377
Thanked: 191 Times
Default re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sridhar-v View Post
@ Styler Here are some more candidates for your tak tak noise:-
1. The front antiroll bar bushings may be worn out.
2. Steering linkage ball joints may have play. But the worn ones on my GV did not make much of a noise.
3. The Stabilizer bar joint (vertical rod connecting the strut and antiroll bar) is always the weakest ling and wears out fast.
The Link Rods (Steering linkage ball joints) were replaced when I bought the Grand Vitara. Linkages and the Brake Pads was the only thing recommended for replacement by my mechanics when they did an inspection after removing the wheels.
I will get the front Antiroll bushings and the Stabilizer bar joints checked.

The tak tak sound comes only occasionally when I am driving at slow speeds 10-20kmps. Maybe when accelerating or braking. The mechanics were suspecting engine mounting but the noise is tak tak, too low so I have a feeling that it would be not the mounting.

Anyways it is hardly noticeable and comes occasionally so I am not going to bother until I figure out the exact cause.

I will let the Service Center guys take a test drive and see what they have to say.

Thanks for your ideas.

Styler
Styler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th September 2017, 21:09   #1067
BHPian
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 307
Thanked: 179 Times
Default re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]

Congratulations to another proud Vitara owner ! a 2.0L AT has joined the gang : the journey to the owner was perilous and it is a miracle it made it in one piece .

Will the proud new owner identify himself
Attached Thumbnails
The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]-fullsizerender.jpg  


Last edited by wbd8779 : 29th September 2017 at 21:39.
wbd8779 is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 29th September 2017, 21:16   #1068
Senior - BHPian
 
wanderernomad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chandigarh
Posts: 2,386
Thanked: 782 Times
Default

Guilty as charged. Thanks Salman for the help given and I have no words to express my gratitude. Ownership thread is coming up soon.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Styler View Post
but the noise is tak tak, too low
Styler
Replace the Lower control arms.

Last edited by Jaggu : 29th September 2017 at 21:22. Reason: Back to back posts, please use Quote + instead. Thanks.
wanderernomad is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 30th September 2017, 09:56   #1069
BHPian
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Pune
Posts: 563
Thanked: 725 Times
Default re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]

Quote:
Originally Posted by wanderernomad View Post
Guilty as charged. Thanks Salman for the help given and I have no words to express my gratitude. Ownership thread is coming up soon.
Welcome to the club. Particularly happy as I also have a Black 2L AT.
sridhar-v is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 30th October 2017, 08:43   #1070
Distinguished - BHPian
 
sudev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Gurgaon
Posts: 3,505
Thanked: 2,320 Times
Default

Folks since I bought a "new" GV2.0 I was rereading the manual and this caught my attention. Never knew this was also available on GV to get out of slushy situations. Anyone tried braking while wheels were spinning to crawl out of sticky situation.
Attached Thumbnails
The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]-1509333169271.jpg  

sudev is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 30th October 2017, 10:12   #1071
BHPian
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Pune
Posts: 563
Thanked: 725 Times
Default re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sudev View Post
Folks since I bought a "new" GV2.0 I was rereading the manual and this caught my attention. Never knew this was also available on GV to get out of slushy situations. Anyone tried braking while wheels were spinning to crawl out of sticky situation.
I have a 2L AT model. If you have read my offroading posts we have taken the GVs into tricky situations. In the first case my Gv got stuck in a couple of water and moss filled potholes, while crossing a stream. There was a lot of wheelspin and loss of traction. Some deft rocking and reversing managed to get me out of the situations.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ex...shet-lake.html (2 Grand Vitaras go offroading - At Panshet Lake)

In the second outing we were trying to cross a ploughed sugarcane field. My GV got bogged down and the rear wheel just started digging in and spinning away merrily. Eventually we had to tow the vehicle out of the rut.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ex...tow-cable.html (A Mercedes GL, 2 Grand Vitaras, a Sugarcane farm and a tow cable)

In the second incident I did try to apply light pressure on the brakes to enable the non rotating wheel to get some traction. That trick did not work. It is quite possible that i did not do it properly. Anyways, I am quite certain that there is no feature of brake based traction control on the GVs sold in India. One needs the ESP module for that as far as I know.
sridhar-v is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 30th October 2017, 12:27   #1072
Team-BHP Support
 
Samurai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: B'lore-Manipal
Posts: 22,351
Thanked: 14,178 Times
Default re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sudev View Post
Never knew this was also available on GV to get out of slushy situations. Anyone tried braking while wheels were spinning to crawl out of sticky situation.
This is a standard technique in any 4WD system that uses torsen LSD, nothing to do with ESP. I have mentioned this earlier here.
Samurai is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 30th October 2017, 16:09   #1073
BHPian
 
Tanmay K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: HR-26, UK-07
Posts: 195
Thanked: 155 Times
Default re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sridhar-v View Post
I am quite certain that there is no feature of brake based traction control on the GVs sold in India. One needs the ESP module for that as far as I know.
Yeah it's not there. Suzuki-forums.com guys often talk about how this traction control helps a lot off-road. It's not the same as proper diff locks but still. I don't know who should I feel bitter towards, MSIL or Suzuki, for it not being included in the India versions. That and cruise control (although maybe back in the day Indian highways weren't as cruise-control-worthy as they are now).
Tanmay K is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 31st October 2017, 16:54   #1074
Distinguished - BHPian
 
sudev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Gurgaon
Posts: 3,505
Thanked: 2,320 Times
Default

I do not think ESP had anything to do with this.

Twice in past I got stuck with cross axle articulation. Had I known this would have tried. Hopefully next time. 😂

Though how would one manage in MT gear box? Heel toe with right foot? In AT it's easy with left foot braking gently.
sudev is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 1st November 2017, 09:46   #1075
BHPian
 
Tanmay K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: HR-26, UK-07
Posts: 195
Thanked: 155 Times
Default re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sudev View Post
Though how would one manage in MT gear box? Heel toe with right foot? In AT it's easy with left foot braking gently.
This is doable by pulling the handbrake up. Theoretically should increase the engine torque going to the rear if the center diff is locked.
Tanmay K is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 1st November 2017, 10:00   #1076
Distinguished - BHPian
 
sudev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Gurgaon
Posts: 3,505
Thanked: 2,320 Times
Default

Tanmay simple but effective. Thanks. Now looking forward to next time I get stuck. 8-)
sudev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th November 2017, 20:58   #1077
Team-BHP Support
 
Samurai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: B'lore-Manipal
Posts: 22,351
Thanked: 14,178 Times
Default Re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]

Early this month, on the day my GV completed 10 years, I had to visit the very temple where we had the puja upon purchase. I took a snap to compare the difference in 10 years.

This was taken on 4-11-2007

The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]-_b044414.jpg

This was taken on 3-11-2017

The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]-img_20171103_134333499_hdr.jpg

Only difference I see are that the road is concretized and there are telephone poles.
Samurai is offline   (11) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 12th November 2017, 22:03   #1078
Distinguished - BHPian
 
sudev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Gurgaon
Posts: 3,505
Thanked: 2,320 Times
Default Re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]

@Samurai san - but the car is looking equally great!!! Many more years with it.

@All - earlier this week purposely got the car in to a situation where the rear right lifted in to air. Then I tried using handbrake to see if some torque is transferred to the wheel on the ground. No. None. Neither in 4H nor in 4L. I was expecting some moment but despite closely observing did not feel any transfer of power to stationary wheel. Tried various handbrake settings too including jerks.

What next.
sudev is offline   (3) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 12th November 2017, 22:09   #1079
Senior - BHPian
 
Leoshashi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: India
Posts: 1,912
Thanked: 10,420 Times
Default Re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai View Post
I took a snap to compare the difference in 10 years.
Absolutely no difference in your car, looks like she has been through a time machine. Many more miles to come.

Regards,
Shashi
Leoshashi is online now   (4) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 13th November 2017, 00:06   #1080
Team-BHP Support
 
Samurai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: B'lore-Manipal
Posts: 22,351
Thanked: 14,178 Times
Default Re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [10 years + 121K]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sudev View Post
Then I tried using handbrake to see if some torque is transferred to the wheel on the ground. No. None. Neither in 4H nor in 4L. I was expecting some moment but despite closely observing did not feel any transfer of power to stationary wheel. Tried various handbrake settings too including jerks.

What next.
Well, the torque multiplication only works for torsen LSD, which is only present in center diff. And it will only work in 4H and not 4HL/4LL.

When you lock the center diff in 4HL/4LL, there is no multiplication effect.

When you use handbrake to arrest the rear right from spinning, it does increase the torque sent to the wheels, but may be it wasn't enough to pull you out of trouble. Unlike in ESP equipped models, same amount of torque goes to both wheels here.

But both your front wheels had good traction, it should have moved out in locked mode. Something doesn't sound right here.
Samurai is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Suzuki Grand Vitara: 2,32,000 kms & 7 years ownership sudev Long-Term Ownership Reviews 412 24th December 2015 13:30
First Embera CRDi owership experience on Team-BHP EDIT: 2 years, 28,000 kms update rohitrk Long-Term Ownership Reviews 101 21st June 2013 23:01
First off-roading with Grand Vitara Samurai 4x4 Excursions 153 23rd March 2010 19:13
Grand Vitara ..how good is it? sunith SUVs, MUVs & 4x4s 12 24th April 2006 10:50
New Suzuki Grand Vitara in US sumitsingh The International Automotive Scene 2 22nd September 2005 09:24


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 18:57.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks