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Old 25th March 2008, 14:01   #241
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In the safari, the idling speed is around 1000rpm, even at standstill.
Its around 700 rpm actually.
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You can't do this idle putter in a petrol, you need a diesel with low end grunt.
Most jeeps can putter around in 4th gear at idle.
Even the indica can putter at idle in second gear, and the DICOR should be able to putter at idle even in third gear.
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tsk1979, it should be possible in all MPFI cars. I have done this many times in my Indica LSi. Without using the accelerator on a level road, I have gone up to 5th gear. The rpm does drop when you shift up (no tacho in my car but I can feel the slight jerk and hesitation) but the ECU compensates almost immediately. If the clutch is released slowly enough, even these jerks can be avoided.
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tsk1979, it should be possible in all MPFI cars. I have done this many times in my Indica LSi. Without using the accelerator on a level road, I have gone up to 5th gear. The rpm does drop when you shift up (no tacho in my car but I can feel the slight jerk and hesitation) but the ECU compensates almost immediately. If the clutch is released slowly enough, even these jerks can be avoided.
. I have done upto 4th in wagon R ( petrol), Indica ( diesel)as well as Verna( diesel) - in Verna in fact , sometimes, I dont touch accelerator till I am in 5th gear, except for a brief second while shifting gears.
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the idea is to blip the throttle before upshifting, the vehicle will take it on thereafter. but again this is for diesels i am saying, do not have much idea on petrol engines how this would be.. diesel vehicle will not stall, that's for sure from my experience of 3 years doing this, only this time it is on a higher plane..

so no one has forbidden me from enjoying this crawl till now, that's good..

thanks suman, 4th is on the anvil now for me, lets see how that turns out, even if it does not pull on 4th no issues, 3rd gear speed is optimum to enjoy
the scenery and yeah, i sure wish there were an led sign somewhere to let the other road users know that they are to overtake and leave me behind as they please, no point me holding up traffic and no signaling and horn required too, i am crawling.. hehe
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smsrini, i believe the idle on the safari should be about 750 or so as suman has pointed out.. try out on an open stretch.

if idle is high, consumption should go up in my opinion, need to hear other riders.
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the idea is to blip the throttle before upshifting, the vehicle will take it on thereafter. but again this is for diesels i am saying, do not have much idea on petrol engines how this would be.. diesel vehicle will not stall, that's for sure from my experience of 3 years doing this, only this time it is on a higher plane..

so no one has forbidden me from enjoying this crawl till now, that's good..

thanks suman, 4th is on the anvil now for me, lets see how that turns out, even if it does not pull on 4th no issues, 3rd gear speed is optimum to enjoy
the scenery and yeah, i sure wish there were an led sign somewhere to let the other road users know that they are to overtake and leave me behind as they please, no point me holding up traffic and no signaling and horn required too, i am crawling.. hehe
For a change pickup / top speed is not being discussed.

Crawling / puttering is really a boon atleast on diesel cars. I could do it even in my low-powered Sierra. It is a real boon especially in slow moving traffic.
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@kingskut
looks like you are enjoying all the good things.. safari as well as the sierra. yes, sometimes one feels like taking a break from the fast life, for those times these are the vehicles to hop into and take off, albeit slowly..
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smsrini, i believe the idle on the safari should be about 750 or so as suman has pointed out.. try out on an open stretch.

if idle is high, consumption should go up in my opinion, need to hear other riders.
750 for 3L or 2.2L ?
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750 for 3L or 2.2L ?
Can confirm it is around 750 for the 3.0 - in fact, 760 to be precise IIRC (on one occasion had the diagnostics laptop plugged in)
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mine is a 2.2, haven't measured too meticulously, the 750 figure is a rough reading looking at the needle. it is at 3 quarters, would not be surprised if actual reading shows 800 rpm too.
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Can confirm it is around 750 for the 3.0 - in fact, 760 to be precise IIRC (on one occasion had the diagnostics laptop plugged in)
Thanks Suman.

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mine is a 2.2, haven't measured too meticulously, the 750 figure is a rough reading looking at the needle. it is at 3 quarters, would not be surprised if actual reading shows 800 rpm too.
Think its 800 or 800plus for 2.2L. Will confirm by eve.
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Also note the small ratio print on the bottom right of the Tacho, thats the calibration, mine says '1:2.52'

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Think its 800 or 800plus for 2.2L. Will confirm by eve.
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hey, what was that dadu, are we running 2.5 times what is shown.. gotta check it out now that you have conveniently put the doubt in my mind..hehe
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Also note the small ratio print on the bottom right of the Tacho, thats the calibration, mine says '1:2.52'
The same for me. At idle tacho was at 900rpm. Not sure how to calculate using the 1:2 thing as Dadu pointed out.
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