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Old 27th September 2009, 18:01   #556
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Congrats on the milestone JK!! Where do you drive so much to??
Nice choice of tires. Its good that you stuck to the stock size.


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BTW where is this Speed Tyres located at cochin.

Was there any price difference between the NEW bharat tyres tvm and this speed tyres.
Speed tires is located off vyttila. Before the bridge to maradu, on the left side.
Its much cheaper than New bharat.
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Thanks KP.

Jithu; I would need atleast 25-29 k just for new alloys. I saw a 255 on wider alloys at Speed Tyres; looked wow. And I think a 7J or 7.5J alloys will also give 235 a more wider look.

HappyWheels; the grip is too good. I am more confident in taking it to higher speeds than I was before.
Congrats JK!!, fatherhood is a nice experience, it teaches you a lot of patience (if not already)

Then why didnt you go for 255's, any specific concerns??, IIRC, upgrading to 255 does not require any bumper cutting or upgrade of Stock Rims/ alloys. You would have got better grip with the 255.

The Sumo to Safari is not a DIY or simple fitment, the position of the bolts do not match the OEM ones on the Safari body and they have to hammer/ drill holes for it.
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Congrats JK!!, fatherhood is a nice experience, it teaches you a lot of patience (if not already)

Then why didnt you go for 255's, any specific concerns??, IIRC, upgrading to 255 does not require any bumper cutting or upgrade of Stock Rims/ alloys. You would have got better grip with the 255.

The Sumo to Safari is not a DIY or simple fitment, the position of the bolts do not match the OEM ones on the Safari body and they have to hammer/ drill holes for it.

Missed this.

The OE alloys are 6.5J. 255 need atleast 7J :(
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@JKD,

Needed to check with you on how the new wheels are hold out? How are the grip and handling of the Safari now?
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Default My Tata Safari 2.2L EX ; Experience till 50000kms in 1 year, 7 months, 15 days approx

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@JKD,

Needed to check with you on how the new wheels are hold out? How are the grip and handling of the Safari now?
Very good but harder than Bridges I guess or maybe I have wrong air pressure , 30 at front and 33 at rear. I can take tighter turns at higher speeds.



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15th March 2008

Took delivery of my Tata Safari 2.2L EX Pearl White today evening.
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18th March 2008 Odo @ 350KMS

Santro:
:small, spacious for 4 provided rear passengers arent that tall.
:Good AC.
:Can squeeze through real tight spots.
:Just floor pedal and it surges forward than most cars of that segment. :Wheel spins in 1st gear very easily.
: Built quality is great.

Safari:
:5 sits comfortably, XL size even I guess.This doesnt include people sitting in the jump seats.
:AC is chilling when the over head blower on.

:It indeed can be squeezed to tight spots. I am more confident now and I am very happy over the confidence the ride quality it gives.

:I am yet to take high speed turns but didnt have any issue when I took the same turn at 80kmph that I could so 100kmph on my Xing. A note here; I had Potenza 175s on my Xing.
//Yoko Geolander inspires confidence but its tad hard, maybe too much nitrogen, 30 at front and 33 at back.

:Body role is of course there but not like one complains. I think its those who does small test drives and do very high speed manuvering who feels this. This can be eliminated once you get used to the beast.

:First gear is short. Careful with second and it easily goes over 2k rpm. I am yet to utilze the power delivery of this as I am still in the running in period.
//have issues with gear now and then, TASS recommends that I change clutch. Odo at 48900kms.

:I am yet to do wheel spins and I donno if its a safe thing to do from engine prospective.
//I have done wheel spins and sort.

: The child locks are a bit loose. Rear door had to be opened from outside once as the lock was set automatically. Maybe the jolt at closing the door made it happen.

Impression after 3 days!

Things in // are from 49500kms experience.

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Another comparsion:

Santro :
: Driver/front seat are good.
:Getting in and out is a breeze especially for Seniors and average build people.
:Knee touches centre console :(
:View is great from the driver point of view
:Passengers at rear to get a good view of the road ahead as they sit a bit higher than small hatches.


Safari:
: Should I say anything about its seats? EX and VX gets height adjustable ones and I think for EX its just for driver. Great thing.
: Lumbar support is feature is great! Would this be costly to add?
: Mahout
: By default you hand gets the height adjuster. You need to practice where the other lever is for adjusting the incline.
: has hand rests!!!

Impression after 4 days ! 19th March 2008

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Did my first 100 today You should have told me before!
First 100 kmph ! 24th March 2008, 9th day!

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Odo @ almost 1400 and hence I booked for 1st Free Service for tomorrow.

Issues:

1) A sound like bird chirping from either left door or boot gate when you drive through very bad road. Should be a beading issue I guess.

2) Child lock for rear left door goes back to "lock" position now and then when you close door as its a bit loose.

3) The problem with engaging 1st and reverse when the Safari is cold, ie,in the morning or after long parking gaps of 3-4 hours.


And I count till 30sec most of the time to switch off engine or to drive off after starting up. This time can go up up to 1min in the morn.
27th March 2008, 12 th day of owning and the issues.

The bird chirping = squeak from tail gate; still there, comes and goes but I found the solution. Keep a thick paper between the tail gate and the black rubber/metal pad.

Note: I follow the 30sec to 1min plus rule to be on the safe side.


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Beast back from 1st Free service. Paid nothing.

The issue with child lock and the chirpy sound was sorted out.

The Safari also got under body coating and a wax coat. Also got light tints done. All these were free from Kulathungal Motors.

Bought carpets from rexin shop! Felt it would do the job well in rainy and dry season. Will post pix of these later. Had to buy 3 meters x 2 feet in total.
April 1st 2008. Odo @ 1500plus

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Just out of curiosity I checked.

There are 228 Safari owners on the forum and 120 members out of them have never posted a single message.
21st April 2008 !


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24 April 2008 always between 11-12kmpl, highway or city with AC.
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So the krrr sound is the same of all. Is it a signal to you that you are not driving it correctly/ accelerating too fast?
25th april 2008; the infamous krr krr which is coz of 70mm EGR value. New ones get 90mm and hence dont have this issue.



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Reason why I bought this material.

1) Wife's place has fine sand, almost like what you have at beach.
2) You get it in size you want and hence was able to fit it perfectly and hence covers 95% of floor area.
3) Washable.
4) Doesnt stink if wet as base is rubber and hence will contain/keep water in it without spilling it on to carpet.
28th April 2008 Why I got the carpets!

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Two more tank fills, 11~11.24kmpl.
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Its still a Xing to me when it comes to driving. I see I lead the traffic most of the time. I overtake whenever possible. I am having fun.


I never drove for FE (tried for 5kms and then gave up twice). During the initial run-in period I got 12plus, this was when I was doing 80kmph max.

I tried System D and I may have gained .25 or so . I discontinued using it I found the manufacturing date a bit old and the engine made a harsh noise when I accelerate fast. The noise is still there and my dealer want me to bring it for a check up as he hasnt come across this sound before.
How I drive.

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Two months Odo @ 7250 Kilometers. Mileage : 10-11.5kmpl .

Engine: The krr noise is there from 1800-2100 rpm. Noticed that its only in 3rd and its just for 2000-2100 rpm when in 4th.

Interiors: Because its beige, I am worried and hence its 100% AC full time and hence I guess the interiors are still neat.

Rattle: A bit which I guess is coz I play the music tad loud and it caused some plastic to rattle within the door.

There is a chirpy sound due to either tail gate or co-driver seat when its not used.

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23rd May 2008 , Odo @ 7410

First service impression


Gave my Safari for oil change and to check the engine noise.

I was charged , 2530Rs in total . The split up:

Part no: 254718130115 Assembly Oil Filter: 161.78Rs
Part No: 62120601615 Lamp WSW 12V 5W: 41.78Rs
Part No: OILEMS1000 Diesel Oil CH4 15W 40 EXXON MOBIL SUPER 1000TM, 7.7L: 1270Rs
Part No: BG105 BG Quick Clean Engine Flush , 674Rs (.325L)


I drove Safari with a supervisor with me as I wanted the engine noise sorted. He was hearing this for first time in a Safari.He said he has heard similar sound in Dicor Indica/Indigo. Later on service engg or so asked me to bring the Safari next week so that they can swap with another ECU and check, as the Supervisor thinks the sound is louder than normal.

15th June 2008; Added alloys. Bought from Steeroid as he upgraded to wider alloys for his 255’s.


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Forgot to mention that Temp Transducer was change under warranty (costs 1333Rs without VAT, parrt number 269954209968 )
as I had a faulty temp guage

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27th June 2008 . took it for service as they called for idler belt change IIRC.

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16th Sept 2008 Odo @ 18100 plus till date.

Got a call from them saying some retro fitment came and hence I have to bring the Safari down to get it fitted.

The bill at 2nd service:

Part No: 254718130115 Assembly Oil Filter: 161.78Rs
Part No: 269915400122 Alternator Int.Fan-120A-Pull-64: 11,437Rs (Warranty)
Part No: Oil15w40Castr GTD 15w40 Castrol Engg Oil 7.5L: 1366.65Rs
Part No: 422010 Rear Anchor Plate Remove-Install-Replace Parts(each) :Free Service


Total bill 1748Rs.

Idiots used wrong oil !

They also changed the Alternator fan; retro fitment

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19000kms , 10-11kmpl @ I lead the traffic, no r a t t l e s !, and atlast no more krrr krrr!!!

I got a call from my TASS asking me to bring my 2.2L for a retro fitment. Those who are called up gets their alternator changed.

When I went to get the vehicle back, the supervisor, Mr.Sivakumar, was like, now the Safari is smmoothhh etc. I was like yes I know. I couldnt believe when I drove it, no more krr krr in any gear. [IMG]file:///K:/DOCUME%7E1/HOME/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]
25th Sept 2008. Alternator retro fitment


1st November 2008 got oil changed to regular for free after I escalated the issue !

10th December 2008; first accident. Was lucky, me and the old guy who was hit.

13k from pocket as I almost lost most of the plastic part at the front. Costly me say unlike what you think.

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Back from third service.

Talked to service manager about the service light and he was upset that they, his juniors, didnt fix it. He said he will check and get back to me even when I said about TSK's experience.

I didnt drive much after the service. No rattles for now. All looks good. Will update tomorrow.

Part No Part Price
254718130115 Assembly Oil filter 161.60
253409110117 Assembly Fue; Filter Delphi 2161.15
278909130106 Air Filter Element 643.73
OILCASGTXD CH4 15W40 Castrol GTX 1806.68
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Total 5451.00
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They also found that mine has worn out tie rods and since they didnt have it in stock they have ordered it. Will call me up when it lands. Free alignment and wheel rotation after putting new tie rods. Under warranty.

Got front tie-rods changed under warranty.

Part No: G269946600113; 859.49Rs for two.
Had to pay for pins: FST004; Rs 15.02 for 5.
28th Feb 2009. Third service for Rs 5451Rs

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6th July 2009 Odo @ 41850 kms,

Changed engine oil to Mobil Delvac MX. Cost me 18XX for 8 litres. Got it changed at Focus Motors,Alapuzha (they are TASS). Also flushed with BG (Rs. 700) and 161Rs for oil filter. Think they charged 100rs for Oil change.

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Mirror assembly is costly ! Had to change it; the whole assembly coz the old one broke due to a stupid jay walker.

There was a free check up at Kulathungal. All liquids checked, wheels checked (all these happened in front of my eyes). They filled up the radiatior, thats all. And a free wash [IMG]file:///K:/DOCUME%7E1/HOME/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image002.gif[/IMG]

I will get 20% and 5% reduction on labour and parts respectively as bonus coz I came for the free check up.
9th August 2009, 3600rs for mirror assembly and 900 rs or so for painting it. Whoops!

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4th Service 25 August 2009 Odo @ 45315 @ Kulathungal


Mileage ; 11.7kmpl

1) asked not to change oil as I had changed it at 42000
2) fix the krr krr ! I drove a new Safari two weeks back and it was s m o o t h !
3) Squeaking noise when I brake. No marks for guessing; SA called up and said I need to get new brake pads. 3.5k or so
4) Tail door squeak.

I said I will take the Safari only tomorrow eve as I wanted them to fix the krr krr.
Costed 4300Rs almost. There was some steering play which was fixed. They also changed some bushes for idler arms or so

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30th August 2009 Odo @ 45678 kilometers!

533 days! (1 years, 5 months, and 15 days)
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25th Sept 2009 Odo @ 47800kms;

Tata Safari 2.2L EX on Yokohama Geolander 235/70 R16

Changed tyres to Yokohama Geolander ATS 235/70 R16 at 5800Rs/tyre. Also filled it up with Nitrogen in all four tyres. I am pretty happy with the service/dealings of Speed Tyres, Cochin. I also got a Yoko T-shirt free.
Issues till date

1)Squeaky tail door now which I now know how to fix
2)Krr krrr, coz of EGR as I had pointed out before and I think from Dadu’s experience it will be fixed if I can get the 90mm EGR
3)No turbo effect twice or so ; which I think was coz of loose battery terminals. This was during a highway trip and I am sure there was no turbo, no krr krr nosie and it wont go 100kmph plus and no turbo kick
4)Have issues with gear , think I fried the clutch. May need to change it soon.
5)Some noise from front or slight alignment issue was found during tyre change. Will fix it after two weeks.


What I miss? 4x4 and wider tyres. !Newer 2.2L are way refined and GX is a great buy.

I intend to complete 50000 before this weekend.
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jkd, wow thats a pretty long post and sums up your entile journey of ownership.Enjoy your elephant.
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Yippe! Completed 45678 kilometers! 533 days! (1 years, 5 months, and 15 days)

Done fourth service! Only issue is that squeak from tail gate!

Go safari go!
Wow! thats remarkable. Looks like Safari became your second home . Good to see your first 45000 kms without many issues. Wishing you a trouble free 100k kms journey
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Default Odo @ 50,000 KMS . 1 year, 7 months, 14 days

50,000 kilometers

Made it within the time period I had mentioned.
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Congrats on the 50,000!

That is some run that you are doing there!
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JK,


How many of those 50K kms are from driving to Bangalore ?!
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Thanks Happy_Wheels

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How many of those 50K kms are from driving to Bangalore ?!
None. The longest it was driven was to Salem from Trivandrum,guess 555kms one way. All it does is daily 35-45kms run, fortnightly trip to Shertala/Kottayam 170-190kms one way.

Tours should start mid next year. Shame that I didnt do a tour on this other than the one that was done for various official purpose.
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50,000 kilometers

Made it within the time period I had mentioned.
Congrats JK, looks like you may even hit the 1.5 lac Kms mark before the extended warranty is over
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Congrats JK on the 50k mark on your Safari!


For comparison sake, you bought the Safari on 15 Mar 2008 and ran up the 50k mark in less than a year and 7 months. I bought my Baleno on 12 Oct 2005 and in 4 years, I am still short of a few hundred kms to the 55,000 mark.

I have made three trips to Kerala from Pune averaging 1400 kms one way per trip, that is, 8400 kms totally in long distance running. How do you munch up all the miles?

Regards,

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Congratz JK thats a hell lot of running! May you both treat each other well for another 500,000 kms.
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50,000 kilometers
Congrats jkdas for 50k. Wish you many more KMs on your palace-on-wheel.

Mine is over 8 months old and I am still at ~6.4k. However, it is a big number for me considering my other car, Wagon-R, has seen only about 45k in ~7.5 years so far. Safari surely urges you to go places and devour miles.

cheers,
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