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Old 3rd June 2008, 15:27   #46
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the older scorpio had issues with the handling, braking and suspension setup. If you have driven the earlier version how does the mHawk compare in these with the older scorpios?
yes, i had the 2.6 turbo and CRDe scorpio. the VLX is entirely different in character from the turbo. when compared to the CRDe, it had a bit better ride (less bounciness), though it could still have been better. braking is supposed to be better i guess, as VLX comes with ABS. as far as handling is concerned, i feels it rolls a lot less now.
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yes, i had the 2.6 turbo and CRDe scorpio. the VLX is entirely different in character from the turbo. when compared to the CRDe, it had a bit better ride (less bounciness), though it could still have been better. braking is supposed to be better i guess, as VLX comes with ABS. as far as handling is concerned, i feels it rolls a lot less now.
Hi, great buy!
i own a crde 2.6 dx older leaf spring suspension version(2005 end).Do you feel that the performance difference between this and the current mhawk is huge? Is there differnce in the pickup,gear box etc..
As far as the suspension and body roll i have learnt to live with it and as one who seldom crosses 110km/h and no offroading those two things dont matter much .
Pls advice.
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Congrats Raj on your new ride, it looks neat in white and does this purchase make you one of the first (pardon my ignorance) to own a mhawk here on the forum. If its not, disregard the statement and do come up in detail with the ownership report.
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good info for us Scorp countrymen
one question - which tyres did they give you with your vehicle?
Hopefully you got the Bridgestone Duelers because from all accounts these are better than the JK Elanzo which is the other option as OEM (this is what I was told when I bought my Scorp 2 months ago)
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now, i wont call this a review, but here are some things i noticed in the first 300 kms with my car:

+ tyre pressure sensor is good, accurate with only a negligible error.
+ reverse sensors work well, shows even the direction of obstacle and detects even the corners of the bumper.
+ cruise control is working fine, no issues there.
+ engine is very very refined, its all go and no show! amazing acceleration with zero vibrations.
+ features like theatre style illumination & headlights which stay on for 30 seconds after you remote lock the car add to the "feel good" factor of the car.
+ the voice assist system reminds you of everything from low fuel to seat belt, door open, low brake fluid, handbrake engaged and what not!
+ the lights on the footpegs are nice and do help.
+ driver's window has auto up/down feature with anti-pinch which goes down automatically as it senses an obstacle. nice.
+ automatic headlights are working fine, but does get switched on if the car is parked in a shed even in daytime.

- there is some vibration from the gear lever in the 3rd gear. have to get it checked in its 1st service.
- there is a strange sound like "whoa" from the car. it is not sounding like a defect or rattle. its like the car is purposely making that noise as a reminder or caution, but we cant figure out what it is!
- the ride though good, should have been better.
- small shortcomings which i already knew like absence of cruise control indication and electric side view mirrors.
- automatic wipers work fine but does not stop as soon as the glass is dry. this is mentioned even in the manual as the sensor senses even little drops on the windshield.
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Congrats on your new ride. The vehicle looks good.

Thank you for sharing your initial experience with mHawk . Eagerly waiting for a detailed review
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Hi, great buy!
i own a crde 2.6 dx older leaf spring suspension version(2005 end).Do you feel that the performance difference between this and the current mhawk is huge? Is there differnce in the pickup,gear box etc..
As far as the suspension and body roll i have learnt to live with it and as one who seldom crosses 110km/h and no offroading those two things dont matter much .
Pls advice.
no, the performance difference isnt much. its just the way the mHawk delivers its power. even the CRDe is very punchy and refined. the hawk is a more silent and has a linear power delivery throughout its powerband.
the gearbox is almost similar, just a wee bit better but the clutch is much lighter. i think since mine is a new vehicle, the gear box is a bit rough. because the demo car which i drove had pretty smooth gearshifts.
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Congrats Raj on your new ride, it looks neat in white and does this purchase make you one of the first (pardon my ignorance) to own a mhawk here on the forum. If its not, disregard the statement and do come up in detail with the ownership report.
thanks buddy...

frankly, even i have no idea whether i am the first member to own a mHawk, but i dont remember seeing any reviews about the hawk either.

i will definetely give a detailed review as soon as possible.
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good info for us Scorp countrymen
one question - which tyres did they give you with your vehicle?
Hopefully you got the Bridgestone Duelers because from all accounts these are better than the JK Elanzo which is the other option as OEM (this is what I was told when I bought my Scorp 2 months ago)
All the best with the new toy
yes, they are Bridgestone Duelers.
thanks buddy.
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Congrats on your new ride. The vehicle looks good.

Thank you for sharing your initial experience with mHawk . Eagerly waiting for a detailed review
thanks buddy.
i will write a detailed review as soon as possible.
meanwhile, i can clear some doubts or questions of fellow members, isnt it?
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+ cruise control is working fine, no issues there.
Where have you used the cruise control? What good is the cruise control if there's no indication of the speed to which it is set too? Do they want you to guess the speed. If you ask me it utterly, completely useless.

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+ engine is very very refined, its all go and no show! amazing acceleration with zero vibrations.
Part throttle, the earlier 2.6 was better. Which other car do you drive?

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+ the voice assist system reminds you of everything from low fuel to seat belt, door open, low brake fluid, handbrake engaged and what not!
Yes and its extremely irritating!

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- automatic wipers work fine but does not stop as soon as the glass is dry. this is mentioned even in the manual as the sensor senses even little drops on the windshield.
Brilliant.. first they give you all the electronic automatics but then you have to intervene beacuse at times they have mind of their own.

Congrats on your buy... but I think at this price they should have included front air bags as standard rather than useless electronics.
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@ extreme torque: yes, the absence of indication for the cruise control is suprising but never a bother. you have the speedometer to have a look at the car's speed.
i drive a 2.6 CRDe scorpio and 2.5 innova. my cousin (who lives with me) has a 2.2 safari,i found the throttle response of the mHawk better than all above mentioned cars.
i find the voice assist system very helpful and not at all irritating. atleast it is better than small lights and beeps. and even if you find it irritating, you have the option of disabling all the commands or selected commands through a switch in the glovebox. thereafter no voice will interfere in your driving!
the sensor for the auto wipers does sense that the rain has stopped but wipes for sometime to clear the dribble off the windshield. its made to work that way and not a defect. its the same when you use the windshield washer, the wiping will continue for few seconds after releasing the switch. after few seconds of post wipe, the wiper will operate once again to dribble down the washer fluid remains.

dont know why, but frankly i prefer all these electronics over airbags as i know this is the only vehicle in this price segment to offer me all these.
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yes, and even if you have disabled the voice assist system, you still have the lights of door open, seatbelt, low brake fluid, low oil, etc in the instument cluster. so, no worries!
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the engine is a true gem!
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850 kms review:
* because of the rains in mumbai, i could check my car's automatic wipers. they are working perfect, quite contrary to what i read in some reviews. switches on/off automatically and increases/decreases speed according to the intensity of rain. the only grouse is a mild clicking sound can be heard from the sensors's receiver located under the front seat. i dont know whether its normal, anyways have to get it checked in the first service.
* the strange noise like "whoa" which i mentioned earlier is still present. now we are sure that its not a defect as we have heard it even when the car is not moving but we have no idea what it is trying to convey!
* if the scorpio is remote locked, then it should be unlocked only with the remote as the engine immobiliser get activated. any attempt to open it with a key will trigger the alarm and the engine wont start. if your remote battery is dead, then you can open the car with a key. to stop the alarm, there is a button in the glovebox. turn on the ignition, press this button and turn off the ignition. repeat this procedure five times. this is the way to enter your password. your default password is "11111". you can even change your password!
* there is a small procedure you have to do when you have a flat tyre. the TPMS (tyre pressure monitoring system) indicates with a beep and red light that you have a flat tyre and also indicates which tyre is flat. first manually swap the tyre with the spare. then press the mode button on the TPMS twice for 5 seconds. it will beep to acknowledge your request that you have swapped the respective tyres.
* in my 7 seater version, mahindra has pulled back the middle seats a bit behind resulting in more leg space in the middle seats.
* i dint like the fitting of the panel behind the steering wheel. looks like it has been cut with a knife! rest is ok.
* we use premium diesel by indian oil and bharat petroleum. its working fine. engine is smooth and refined.
* the vibration which i mentioned in the gear lever still persists and is only in the 3rd gear. has to get it checked too.

lastly though i am very impressed with my new car, my hand is itching to press the throttle real hard and to exploit the engine's full potential. wish i get the first service done soon. i wanna feel the power of that 120 horses...
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